abh0@bunny.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) (04/06/89)
I read in some hi-tech trade-journal tabloid that Sun will be licensing NeWS source to third party vendors. Does anyone else have details? Is there any central organization which coordinates who does what to NeWS? I would be interested in seeing a comprehensive list of vendors who supply NeWS, for what hardware platforms, and with what requirements. Even better would be a consumer's advocate kind of comparison, benchmarks and bugs report. Comments? Criticisms? - Andrew Hudson GTE Laboratories abh0@gte.com
mh@wlbr.EATON.COM (Mike Hoegeman) (04/07/89)
In article <6759@bunny.UUCP> abh0@bunny.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) writes: >I read in some hi-tech trade-journal tabloid that Sun will be >licensing NeWS source to third party vendors. Does anyone else >have details? Is there any central organization which coordinates >who does what to NeWS? I would be interested in seeing a comprehensive >list of vendors who supply NeWS, for what hardware platforms, and with >what requirements. Even better would be a consumer's advocate kind >of comparison, benchmarks and bugs report. > >Comments? Criticisms? > >- Andrew Hudson >GTE Laboratories >abh0@gte.com sun already licenses NeWS. they always have as far back as i can remember. i'm sure the merged X/NeWS will be too. For more detailed info sun is the best source, but i will will try to answer any questions if you need a specific answer. BTW, NeWS is already on a whole bunch of machines (Mac's, Silicon graphics, HP's, 386's, etc..). The list is really quite extensive. There are NeWS' out there for third party boards for suns too. We use Parallax's graphics boards in our 3/160's with "PNeWS" which has a set of LIVE (and still)video sampling extensions which are AWESOME. Parallax did a really good job and it did'nt take them long at all to do the port, I don't remember exactly how long it took them but it was something on the order of 2-3 months. Right now I'm watching "Top Gun" in one NeWS window and typing this article in another. OH !! Wait a minute!! here comes Kelly McGillis.. Yow! :-) -mike.
michael@nyit.UUCP (Michael Gwilliam) (04/08/89)
In article <28981@wlbr.EATON.COM>, mh@wlbr.EATON.COM (Mike Hoegeman) writes: > BTW, NeWS is already on a whole bunch of machines (Mac's, Silicon > graphics, HP's, 386's, etc..). The list is really quite extensive. I'm interested in NeWS, and have written applications in it. However, the attitude around here is that it's not available on very many machines where X windows is. If someone could provide a list of machines or other practical information on NeWS. I'd be grateful. michael
messino@SUN.COM (Steven Messino) (04/09/89)
Hello all, I am the Licensing Manager for Sun's Window and Graphics products. If you would like to know more about source licensing NeWS or X11/NeWS you can reach my office at 415 336 2017. I will look forward to hearing from you. SM
barnett@crdgw1.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) (04/09/89)
In article <352@nyit.UUCP>, michael@nyit (Michael Gwilliam) writes: >I'm interested in NeWS, and have written applications in it. However, >the attitude around here is that it's not available on very many >machines where X windows is. If someone could provide a list of >machines or other practical information on NeWS. I'd be grateful. Another issue is the number of machines the client libraries have been ported to. For instance, I ported the client code to a vax, so I can use psterm and NeWS/emacs on a vax. Has anyone done this with a convex? I started this and when I had to research the format of the floating point code, I postposted the effort. Another topics: Sorry, but I forgot where I saw this, but.... Some company is selling a NeWS *clone* to run on a MS-DOS machine. I want a window environment at home that lets me develop and debug tools that can be used standalone or thru a modem to my machine at work. NeWS is the obvious solution, but I don't know of anyone with practical experience. Do you have to use SLIP? Does anyone have any tools? I am aware of Bruce Schwartz's NeWSline program. Does anyone have any experience using NeWS as a remote window system over a 2400 baud modem? -- Bruce G. Barnett <barnett@crdgw1.ge.com> a.k.a. <barnett@[192.35.44.4]> uunet!steinmetz!barnett, <barnett@steinmetz.ge.com>
pete@relay.NixCtc.de (Pete Delaney) (04/10/89)
In article <93@crdgw1.crd.ge.com>, barnett@crdgw1.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) writes: > Do you have to use SLIP? Unless your working for the Government and required to migrate to OSI in the near future, I think NeWS/TCP/IP/SLIP is a reasonable approach. For the Government/OSI folks it would likeley be non-conformant to run NeWS/TP0/CONS/X25, I suppose they are suppose to use ODA over the OSI stack for this kind of stuff. > Does anyone have any tools? I am aware of Bruce Schwartz's NeWSline > program. What protocol stack does that use? > > Does anyone have any experience using NeWS as a remote window system > over a 2400 baud modem? I tried but couldn't get support from Neighboring System Administrators who are sold on X11. Any one want to connect up over TCP/IP/XNI/X25? I've noticed that xterm uses about twice as many packets as a rlogin session, and that rlogin uses about twice as many packets as a nterm session. So over 2400 baud modems NeWS might perform as well as X11 over a 9600 baude modem. Pete Delaney - Nixdorf UCC | pete@NIXCTC.DE Prefered Addr Loffel Strasse 3 | pyramid!nixctc!pete UUCP from Calf 7000 Stuttgart 70 | pete@RELAY.HUJI.AC.IL Backup Address West Germany | Phone: +49 (711) 7685-128
"Charles_Nail.WBST129"@XEROX.COM (04/15/89)
I read similar info: ISC and Sun announced an agreement in February that ISC will be licensed to sell NeWS and SunView to parties running on the SPARC chip. Are you aware of any other sources? Any for 386's? Charlie Nail Xerox Corporation (716)-422-4588
mh@wlbr.EATON.COM (Mike Hoegeman) (04/15/89)
In article <890410-132543-4946@Xerox> "Charles_Nail.WBST129"@XEROX.COM writes: >Chris, > >I am not aware of NeWS being available for 386's in general; my >understanding the Sun 386i is the 386 system licensed to use the package. >If I am wrong, will you please set me straight? > >Charlie I know for sure there is NeWS for 386's under OS/2 , it will also run with 80286'es . I think you need and EGA and a multisync type monitor , I would think 4 meg of memory is needed too. the company who makes OS/2 NeWS is imagesoft. here's there phone # 800-245-8840 -mike
doc%suntan.West@jalapeno.UUCP (Tom Dockery) (04/16/89)
In <93@crdgw1.crd.ge.com>, Bruce Barnett writes: > Another topics: Sorry, but I forgot where I saw this, but.... > Some company is selling a NeWS *clone* to run on a MS-DOS machine. The company is Technology Application Group in Los Alamitos CA. The product is call NeWScript, and the contact I have is Robert McGill, (213) 430-9792. They demoed it at Uniforum in San Francisco, and while it lacked some communications capabilities, it was quite impressive. They do plan to extend the communications by late summer. Tom Dockery ...sun!suntan!fajita!doc Market Focus Technologies