msc@ramoth.esd.sgi.com (Mark Callow) (06/09/90)
Lara here at SGI drew the following article to my attention. In article <3772@trantor.harris-atd.com>, chuck@melmac.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano) writes: |> Regarding items 3 and 4: "those darn neat eyes" first appeared running |> under SunView, and were later ported to X. I should know; I wrote the |> original "eyecon" program in August of 1988 and released it to the net. |> Subsequent versions appeared for X and NeWS later. The xeyes demo released |> with X is dated July, 1989, a year after my version. However, is there even |> a mention of my name in the code? At least I was proper enough to credit |> Mark Callow, of Silicon Graphics, in my version. I first saw a version of |> the eyes program running on an SGI machine under NeWS at SIGGRAPH '88 in |> Atlanta. Mark produced that version, to the best of my knowledge. I was so |> taken by it I wrote a version for suntools as soon as I got home. |> |> I was a little disappointed to see the X version appear without |> proper credit, both to myself and Mark. |> While I would love to take credit for creating the eyes, I can't. The NeWS eyes (which were the first) were created by Jeremy Huxtable from England. Here is the program header. #! /usr/NeWS/bin/psh % eye.ps % % Jeremy Huxtable % % "Big Brother" implementation in PostScript. Jeremy posted the eyes to comp.windows.news in late July 1988 about a week before the Atlanta Siggraph. I started eye.ps not knowing what it would do and then I couldn't stop laughing for about 5 minutes. They were so much fun I decided to use them during my talk at Siggraph. I sent email to Chuck a couple of years ago telling him this. It must have fallen into a hole somewhere. The version I use now was modified by Mike Russell from Pixar to stop the flashing. I don't subscribe to rec.humor so please email any replies to me. -- From the TARDIS of Mark Callow msc@ramoth.sgi.com, ...{ames,decwrl}!sgi!msc "There is much virtue in a window. It is to a human being as a frame is to a painting, as a proscenium to a play. It strongly defines its content."
keith@xenon.lcs.mit.edu (Keith Packard) (06/09/90)
In article <8743@odin.corp.sgi.com> msc@sgi.com writes: >Lara here at SGI drew the following article to my attention. > >In article <3772@trantor.harris-atd.com>, chuck@melmac.harris-atd.com >(Chuck Musciano) writes: >|> Regarding items 3 and 4: "those darn neat eyes" first appeared running >|> under SunView, and were later ported to X. I should know; I wrote the >|> original "eyecon" program in August of 1988 and released it to the net. >|> Subsequent versions appeared for X and NeWS later. The xeyes demo released >|> with X is dated July, 1989, a year after my version. However, is there even >|> a mention of my name in the code? At least I was proper enough to credit >|> Mark Callow, of Silicon Graphics, in my version. I first saw a version of >|> the eyes program running on an SGI machine under NeWS at SIGGRAPH '88 in >|> Atlanta. Mark produced that version, to the best of my knowledge. I was so >|> taken by it I wrote a version for suntools as soon as I got home. >|> >|> I was a little disappointed to see the X version appear without >|> proper credit, both to myself and Mark. >|> > >While I would love to take credit for creating the eyes, I can't. The NeWS >eyes (which were the first) were created by Jeremy Huxtable from England. >Here is the program header. As the author of xeyes, I'd certainly like to apologize to all of the original authors whose estimable work was followed by my own meager implementation. I saw the eyes at the '88 SIGGRAPH in Atlanta during the talk cited above and raced home to write the X version. As no citation was given during the talk (although it was arguably one of the most entertainly portions), I had no idea who to credit. Even though the Sunview version may have appeared in public before the R3 version, xeyes had been running within MIT since a few days after SIGGRAPH '88. Actually, the original copyright on xeyes is from 1988. The xeyes sources included with R3 had an attribution which attempted to identify as closely as possible the original source: "This directory is new to R3. It is a fun little toy that was stolen from a demo at SIGGRAPH '88." Now that we know the true author, I'll certainly add a reference in the manual. Always important to document the history of these leaps in user interface technology to preserve them for posterity. Keith Packard MIT X Consortium