ahby@bungia.mn.org (Shane P. McCarron) (04/23/89)
From: Shane P. McCarron <ahby@bungia.mn.org> An update on UNIX|= Standards Activities - Part 2 IEEE 1003.0 February 20, 1989 Shane P. McCarron, NAPS International 1003.0 - POSIX Guide The following report is printed exactly as it was sent to me by our contact in 1003.0. I find his unedited observations to be very enlightening. This past Jan 89 meeting for IEEE 1003.0 group is the fourth since the group's inception. The first took place in March 1988. In summary, it has been a bit of a roller coaster ride. We jumped into the fray back in March with high expectations and with the strong intentions of having taken bold steps by now. Upon coming up to our one year mark, it is clear to me that we have been (and still are) experiencing a rite of passage. Specifically, we have gone through the growing pains that every volunteer organization does when attempting to take bold strides, only to stumble on such things as consensus, priorities, level of detail, and parameters. It also clear to me that this was inevitable. Given the state of affairs within this whole realm of open systems, i.e. contention and conflict, and given the goal of our attempting to address this realm (to which no accredited body has addressed itself to date), conflict and a bit of thrashing around were, in retrospect, to be expected. The group is reaching the point where a significant amount of synergy is developing. I would define that as everyone knowing what to expect from those who are the most vocal AND each person knowing when to limit and/or categorize his/her discussion. We struggled with procedural issues in order to ensure that anarchy did not reign while concurrently ensuring that creativity was not stifled. We are beginning to reach this goal. We experienced the classic problem of everyone during a meeting setting high and lofty goals only for things to fall through the cracks when they returned to their jobs and saw other pressing priorities awaiting them. Goals set during this past meeting were more pragmatic and better thought out. In addition, the group's leadership is taking a more active role to ensure that friendly reminders and follow ups occur. (I thought I heard someone say that their legs might be broken if action items were missed but I was outside getting a cup of tea at the time.) One very key and contentious issue which was discussed and tabled was that of changing our PAR to say that we will develop a standard instead of a guide. This kind of change has far-reaching ramifications and, in my strong opinion, is unwise and unneeded. Some felt it was necessary to put some "teeth" into our end-product by making it a standard. So much attention is being paid to our effort now that a basic list of priority standards would garner significant consumption. And we are certainly proceeding further than that. Overall, the group is coming together and a second draft version is in the works. (Draft 1 was, for the most part, an outline). The goal for our April meeting is to have a draft that the group feels is mature enough to begin invoking the formal proposal process for future changes. We'll have to wait and see what these next few months yield. The USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee contact for 1003.0 is Kevin Lewis. He can be reached at: Kevin Lewis DEC 1331 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Suite 645 Washington, DC 20004 klewis@gucci.dec.com +1 (202) 383-5633 Volume-Number: Volume 16, Number 32