stephe@speaker.uucp (Stephen R. Walli) (06/25/91)
There's a Mini Ballot attached to the latest circulation of the TCOS/SSC Operating Procedures. It has to do with the removal of voting privileges from the Institutional Representatives. I'm posting this set of ponderings because I want to understand why IRs shouldn't have voting privileges. I need some education here. - I don't like the fact that they recast the current voting situation into a "no" vote situation in the text, then asked for guidance. - Let's look at the IRs. USENIX, Uniforum, EurOpen, GUIDE, DECUS --------------------------------------- There are user groups which for the most part are financially accessible to the average technical person, regardless of their employer, in a similar way to the IEEE and IEEE/CS. X/Open, OSF, UI --------------- There's the vendor consortia. These are not-for-profit (revenue neutral, non-profit, etc.) organizations with membership fees WELL outside of the individual. The high cost of membership provides members with a different set of benefits, such as early access to source code of the products built by these organizations. (I realize this doesn't apply to X/Open. I'm not sure what the return for their high cost of admission is.) IRs represent both user communities and vendor (producer) communities. This fits the multiple viewpoint policy of balloting groups within the IEEE. - TCOS/SEC is responsible for the business/financial side of the standards budget, and the creation and policing of WGs and Steering Committees. The IRs represent their communities (vendor and user) at the policy level the same way that individual members represent those viewpoints at the technical level within a WG. This is why IRs should be voting members. It is a continuation of the open standards process that is a pillar of the IEEE standards platform. (Chairpeople are responsible for their individual projects, and are not responsible for TCOS/SEC policy co-ordination with their WG.) - The "Them" (IRs) outnumbering "Us" ("... individual professional members of the IEEE...") phrasing in the Mini Ballot is a little inflamatory. My guess is that most of the IRs are members of the IEEE anyway, since they are involved and are probably balloting members. I would hope there isn't a suggestion that IRs are unprofessional in this statement. There are by my count, 17 chairpeople, plus 4 steering committees, plus TCOS/SEC officers. There are 8 IRs. The proliferation of project WGs and necessary steering committees seems to be faster than new IR acceptance. Besides, it's not a numbers game. - This next point does not involve the IR voting status, but illustrates a point. Somewhere along the line, it was decided that IRs with the ability to ballot draft documents would receive "special" status. While their ballots do not weigh any heavier for consideration, their names are published seperately at the front of the standard as IRs. Somewhere in the standards acceptance heirarchy, people feel it is important to draw attention to these institutions in the acceptance of the standard. It somehow seems inappropriate that they do not carry voting weight within the policy world of TCOS/SEC. So what am I missing? Why shouldn't IRs have the vote? Disclaimer: The above opinions are strictly my own, and since I work for myself, they also represent my company's. People still love to disagree with them and correct them along the way. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Stephen R. Walli SRW Software phone: (416) 579 0304 572 Foxrun Court, fax: (416) 571 1991 Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, speaker!stephe@mks.com -OR- L1K 1N9 uunet!watmath!mks!speaker!stephe +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ [ Note followup's, please -- mod ] Volume-Number: Volume 24, Number 20