alan@jane.jpl.nasa.gov (Alan S. Mazer) (09/25/88)
Hola. For all you X types, can someone tell me the difference between X 11,
X 11.2, and X prerelease? I understand that X 11.2 (following X 11.1 and
X 11.0?) is now available. But my Masscomp salesman tells me X 11 is _not_
available in official form, only as a prerelease of questionable quality.
Is this true? Is MIT still holding onto X 11 officially while meanwhile
letting go various versions? Does Masscomp's version of X (the toolkit is
not available, by the way) correspond officially to X 11.0, X 11.1, or X 11.2?
If anyone can sort this out, I would sure appreciate it.
-- Alan ..!{ames,cit-vax}!elroy!alan
alan@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov
[I understand that X-11 is REALEASED, not pre-released right now. I don't
know much more details than this. The current release runs on the GA-1000 and
the GA-600, but not the GA-800. If anyone has additional comments, please
forward them. -- sob]
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Stan Barber, Moderatordale@lamont.Columbia.edu (dale chayes) (09/30/88)
In article <9617@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov>, alan@jane.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Alan S. Mazer) writes: > Hola. For all you X types, can someone tell me the difference between X 11, > X 11.2, and X Prerelease? I understand that X 11.2 (following X 11.1 and > X 11.0?) is now available. But my Masscomp salesman tells me "X 11" is _not_ [ ....the rest deleted......] I am presently running Masscomp's first release. (Not a Beta release.) They (like many other vendors) have their own release numbering systems. I honestly believe that vendors do this for their own (good) internal reasons and not to confuse their customers. Masscomp calls this X11 Release 1.0, and it is based on the MIT/Athena release 1 of X11. Its reasonably good, and I am pleased that they put it out. The manuals are good, and the installation was complex but well documented, my only regret was that I forgot to insist that it come on 9 track tape. There are many other vendors who don't yet have any supported versions of X11 out yet (but plenty of hot air.) I have it on reasonably good authority that Masscomp will shortly ship their release 1.1 which will be based on Version 2. Masscomp's release 1 does not include some things that I would have liked to see but then I am very much a novice Xer.. We are using it, and learning. It seems that either you got stale (old) information, or your salesman is not up to speed. In either case, it appears that you are not getting very good support from your sales person. There is a news group for Massscomp related stuff which you might want to cross post to. It is "comp.sys.masscomp" The current release from Masscomp supports GA-1000 (Aurora) and GA-600 (Integral) graphics devices. They swear that the GA-800's will be supported real soon now, and we as users should continue to encourage them to do so. The 1.0 release from Masscomp requires that you configure each graphics device (display) on your system as either an X device or a Masscomp graphics device. This is in the kernel and as such, you have to reboot with a different kernel if you want to change from X to MGI applications, or move to another display. They do provide a set of MGI compatibility library functions so that many applications can simply be recompiled with the new lib and then run under the X11 device. You can mix X11 display devices and MGI devices on the same system, but you can not change from one to the other as you can for instance with the MIT release 2 on a 3/50. On the otherhand, they have implemented a fast "local" interface between the clients and the server through shared memory which eliminates the overhead of network software for applications where both are on the same machine. [If these are opinions, they must be mine. This orgainzation is too anarchistic to have policy, never mind collective opinions. I am an active member of the Masscomp Users Society, and an active user of Masscomp's products.] -- Dale Chayes Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University Route 9W, Palisades, N.Y. 10964 dale@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu voice: (914) 359-2900 extension 434 fax: (914) 359-6817 The MASSCOMP USERS' SOCIETY newsgroup is comp.sys.masscomp. Articles to: masscomp@soma.bcm.tmc.edu or uunet!soma.bcm.tmc.edu!masscomp Administrative stuff: masscomp-request@soma.bcm.tmc.edu Stan Barber, Moderator
black@uunet.uu.net (Sam Black) (09/30/88)
> ... Does Masscomp's version of X (the toolkit is not available, by the way) > correspond officially to X 11.0, X 11.1, or X 11.2? If anyone can sort this > out, I would sure appreciate it. sp-X11 V1.0 corresponds to MIT's R1; this has been released. sp-X11 V1.1 corresponds to MIT's R2; this will be released VERY shortly. sp-X11 V1.2 will correspond to MIT's R3 (due from MIT in October). The toolkit (sp-Xt?) will come out in a separate release; the date has not yet been decided or announced. - sam black -------------------------------------- I'm pink, therefore I'm Spam. ...!{decvax,uunet}!masscomp!black UUCP black@masscomp.com Internet -------------------------------------- The MASSCOMP USERS' SOCIETY newsgroup is comp.sys.masscomp. Articles to: masscomp@soma.bcm.tmc.edu or uunet!soma.bcm.tmc.edu!masscomp Administrative stuff: masscomp-request@soma.bcm.tmc.edu Stan Barber, Moderator