krowitz@mit-kermit.UUCP (David Krowitz) (06/11/87)
First of all, all this 'bickering' has produced the liveliest discussion I've seen in years on this mailing list. Let's keep it up! Secondly, EMACS (emacs, whatever) is *not* a Unix tool. Believe it! I was there when it was developed on a Decsystem-10 running ITS at MIT. It was originally written as a series of TECO macros (another DEC editor originally developed at MIT eons ago). EMACS has since been ported to TOPS-20, and TENEX (with the original TECO editor as the base), been rewritten into various flavors of lisp and C. It is one of the original portable programs, if only because everyone wanted a version of it running on their machine. While it is probably *the* most powerful editor available today I still use the DM for quick and simple editing ... a simple editor for simple stuff, a complex editor for complex stuff. The best of all worlds (for me, at least) would be a DM editor which was, in fact, emacs with the best features of the current DM editor (positioning with the mouse, easy cut and paste, arrow keys, etc) retained in a non-conflicting manner. This should be possible since emacs uses the control characters and the DM uses a seperate key pad. The DM editor still supplies a few features which are superior to anything else I've seen, mainly the wild use of wild cards in searching and search/replace operations. Putting the two editors into one would be an advance in the state of the art. In the meantime, let's stop quoting emacs as being an advantage/disadvantage of Unix vs. AEGIS. It's like saying that TeX is a Unix tool (it is available, but it has nothing to do with Unix). I've been using both for 10 years running on everything from DEC PDP-6's to lisp machines. -- David Krowitz mit-erl!mit-kermit!krowitz@eddie.mit.edu mit-erl!mit-kermit!krowitz@mit-eddie.arpa krowitz@mit-mc.arpa (in order of decreasing preference)