[comp.sys.apollo] Login to a X-window and Unix environment.

GBOPOLY1@NUSVM.BITNET (fclim) (06/14/88)

     Can any kind soul tell me how I can set my system such that
any user may select which environment he/she wants?  My lab has
DN3000 w/s running SR9.7.

     The setup I have in mind is available in SUN w/s.  When a user go
in front of a terminal, he see a glass tty prompting him to log
in.  After he logs in, he may still end up with a glass tty or
he may get a suntools environment; depending on his .cshrc.
His suntools environment in turn depends on his .suntools or
whatever.

     The  point is that he has all the flexibility that he needs
and that is , in my opinion, unavailable on Apollo Domain/IX cum
Aegis.

     I know that I may set up a ~/user_data/startup.19l where I
delete the window created by `node_data/startup.19l.  The default
window (set up be `node_data/startup.19l) has a /com/sh running on
it.  Then in my ~/user_data/startup.19l, I creates a new window with
/bsd4.2/bin/csh or /sys5/bin/csh.  The problem is knowing where the
default window is in order to kill it.

     Another thing, in the manual on /etc/crpasswd, it says that
we must hand-edit the shell field in the /etc/passwd file.  Well, I
did that editing my (non-root) account.  I change  the field to
/bsd4.2/bin/csh.  But when I log in, I still get the default
window cum /com/sh.  Why?!!

     I don't like using ~/user_data/startup.19l to zap the default
window and creating a new one -- it's just ain't elegant; nobody
likes a kludge if there's a better way.  Anyway, I don't know how
to overwrite DM with X.  I do not wish to have X running on top of
the DM -- I believe it may not be as fast as X lying directly on top
of the physical hardware.

     I cannot change `node_data/startup.19l and `node_data/start_login.
19l as the majority of our users use DM and com/sh.  Myself, I use
4.2BSD extensively and I am currently considering migrating to X.
Some of my colleagues and students are doing as same.

     Can anybody give me any pointers?  Many thanks in advance.


fclim                         gbopoly1 % nusvm.bitnet @ cunyvm.cuny.edu
system analyst.
computer centre
singapore polytechnic
dover road
s'pore 0513.

hysell@kodak.UUCP (john hysell) (06/14/88)

One way we want to try logging into remote systems (whether they are running
X-windows or no) is to use SLIP (Serial Line IP).  Does anyone know if there
are device drivers for this protocol on Apollo.  I have access to source code

for SLIP on SUN...
-Thanks - John Hysell