dennis@PEANUTS.NOSC.MIL (Dennis Cottel) (11/11/88)
Casey Leedom says: > It turns out that Apollo has unbundled their graphics development > software with SR10. How wonderful. (More sarcasm than you can > *possibly* imagine.) I now have a graphics workstation with no graphics > development software. It was only $180, so we ordered it right away, but > I'm staggeringly offended by this. I can't even imagine what brain > damage was the cause of this farsighted decision. Long live customer > support at Apollo! I hate to get in a snit before verifying this statement, but if true, it is really upsetting. It may not be a lot of money (until you multiply by 40) but the philosophy is all wrong. At least you knew that if you wrote a graphics program, another Apollo site would be able to run it (already not true with 3D GMR). This is one of the successes of the Macintosh. With the graphics unbundled, other sites will more often choose to use different underlying graphics packages-- leading to incompatibilities between sites, less software compatibility, and therefore less software. Besides which, you don't find out you don't have it until you need it. Then it is months before we can get it through our purchasing system. Dennis Cottel Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA 92152 (619) 553-1645 dennis@nosc.MIL sdcsvax!noscvax!dennis
dbfunk@ICAEN.UIOWA.EDU (David B. Funk) (11/11/88)
In posting <8811102356.AA08522@cod.nosc.mil> from dennis@peanuts.nosc.mil (Dennis Cottel) Dennis refers to Casey Leedom in posting <17748@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU>. > Casey Leedom says: > > It turns out that Apollo has unbundled their graphics development > > software with SR10. How wonderful. (More sarcasm than you can > > *possibly* imagine.) I now have a graphics workstation with no graphics > > development software. It was only $180, so we ordered it right away, but > > I'm staggeringly offended by this. I can't even imagine what brain > > damage was the cause of this farsighted decision. Long live customer > > support at Apollo! > I hate to get in a snit before verifying this statement, but if true, > it is really upsetting. It may not be a lot of money (until you > multiply by 40) but the philosophy is all wrong. At least you knew > that if you wrote a graphics program, another Apollo site would be > able to run it (already not true with 3D GMR). ... Don't get in a snit Dennis, gprlib is NOT unbundled, it is still part of standard distribution. Casey was refering to gmrlib (2D GMR), which IS now unbundled. Therefore now both GMR products (2D & 3D) are extra cost optional products. Maybe Apollo is doing this because they want to push other graphics packages like GKS & Phigs. Any Apollo marketing types care to comment? As the Display Manager is now based upon gprlib, gprlib HAS to be part of the standard distribution. So as long as the DM is around, you can count on gprlib. (Oops, did I hear sombody say "X Windows"?) Dave Funk
lnz@LUCID.COM (Leonard N. Zubkoff) (11/11/88)
You must mean some other library than gprlib (gmrlib is not present on my SR10 system, but gprlib most certainly is). An amazing amount of software, including the Display Manager, wouldn't work without GPRLIB around. Leonard Zubkoff