[comp.sys.apollo] DN3500 problems?

krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (01/04/89)

I've got a problem with a new DN3500 with the 690MB disk ...
if I shut down the node, I can't salvage the disk. If I
boot the machine diskless off of another node, I can bring up
AEGIS and then run SALVOL, but the stand-alone version of
SALVOL just hangs (whether the machine is booted off of its
own disk or it's booted diskless). If I boot the machine
off of another node, I am able to run the winchester disk
diagnostic under DEX (using the default settings) with no
problems. If I try to run DEX off of the DN3500's disk, the
winchester diagnostic will not execute (I get a message about
a bad PV label (?)), but the other diagnostics (CPU, FPU, MEM,
RING) all seem to run OK.

If I bring the machine up as a diskless machine, salvage the
disk, shut it down again, and boot it off of it's own disk it
seems to be fine. I get no disk errors, I can run SAX -CIT,
I can do a backup  -- no problems -- but if I then shut the
machine down again and try running salvol, it hangs again.

I've checked the SR9.7 and SR9.7.1 release notes, and I don't
see anything about bugs in either salvol or the winchester
diagnostics for DEX. I've called this in as a possible 
hardware problem, but I'm not really certain that there is
anything wrong with the disk. Does anyone have any knowledge
of problems with salvol/DEX and the 690MB disks?


 -- David Krowitz

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ferguson@garnet.bucknell.EDU ("Scott R. Ferguson") (01/04/89)

How about trying this:

     Boot the node diskless, and mount the volume:

         $ mtvol w /disk

     Next, copy the salvol from another sau7 directory:

         $ cpf /sau7/salvol /disk/sau7/salvol -r

I was thinking maybe your "salvol" file is corrupted, and simply
replacing it might do the trick.
When you're done, remember to dismount the volume:

         $ dmtvol w /disk

Good Luck.
Scott Ferguson

krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (01/04/89)

I found the problem ... It turns out that the stand-alone (SAU) version
of SALVOL does not correctly handle the new 690MB disk under SR9.7.1
The on-line version of SALVOL does, though, so what you have to do is
to boot the machine diskless off of another SR9.7.1 disk, bring up
AEGIS, run SALVOL, shut the machine down again, and then boot it off
of its own disk. This is not mentioned in the release notes for
SR9.7.1. SR10.0 will, I'm told, handle the new large disks correctly.


 -- David Krowitz

krowitz@richter.mit.edu   (18.83.0.109)
krowitz%richter@eddie.mit.edu
krowitz%richter@athena.mit.edu
krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet
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