[comp.sys.apollo] SR9.7.x installation warnings

krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (01/28/89)

I thought I'd pass along some bits of info that I've gleaned
through much hard work. It may save someone else some grief ...

1) You need either SR9.7.1 or SR9.7.2 (or SR10) to run an DN3500.
   If you have the new 690MB disk drive (or, I'm told, the FPA
   or the fast graphic options), then you need SR9.7.2. However,
   The SR9.7.2 version of /sau7/salvol can not handle the new
   disk. The /com/salvol version can. If you need to salvage your
   disk, you must boot the node diskless off of another SR9.7.2
   machine, bring up AEGIS, login and MTVOL your local disk,
   run /com/salvol, shut the machine down, and reboot it off of
   its own disk.

2) Do *not* bindly load SR9.7.2 onto all of your machines! Load
   it only on machines which require it. I made this mistake.
   We have another DN3500 with a 350MB disk and a floppy which
   I loaded SR9.7.2 onto. We were able to run WBAK/RBAK to the
   floppy disk, but if we formatted the floppy and mounted it,
   /com/cpt would fail with disk controller busy errors if
   the hard disk or the network controller were active during
   the transfer. Loading SR9.7.1 onto this DN3500 solved this
   problem.

3) I loaded SR9.7.2 onto our DN3000's that we use as our master
   software repositories. These machines had been running SR9.7.0.4
   in order to correct some bugs in the GPIO system (more on this
   later). The SR9.7.2 installation seems to install the
   SR9.7.0 files into /sau8, ie. If we do a BLDT on these DN3000's
   we do not see "SR9.7.2" returned, we see the same "SR9.7"
   and the same time/date that the machines which were not
   updated to SR9.7.0.4! Do *not* install SR9.7.2 onto
   DN3000's , it will remove your patches!

4) If you are running SR9.7.0 on a DN3000 (and possibly other
   AT-bus machines) with a floppy disk *and* you have other
   devices which perform 8-bit DMA, the floppy disk will get
   spurious errors if it is running while the other DMA device
   is transferring data. Devices which perform 16-bit DMA do
   not interfere with the floppy. This problem is fixed with
   SR9.7.0.4 and/or SR9.7.1, the SR9.7.2 installation re-installs
   this bug (as previously mentioned) on the DN3000's by
   installing the old SR9.7.0 /sau8 directory.

Many of these errors appear to be hardware errors. Our field
service personnel (bless them!) spent many *days* attempting
hardware fixes while the regional support persons looked for
possible software fixes, and in all cases it has turned out
to be a software bug mascarading as a hardware glitch.


 -- David Krowitz

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dbfunk@ICAEN.UIOWA.EDU (David B. Funk) (01/28/89)

WRT posting <8901272345.AA03051@richter.mit.edu> and 690Mbyte disks,

We just got in a DN4500 with a 690Mbyte disk. The DN4500 needs sr9.7.3
to boot up, the off-line salvol (/sau7/salvol) that comes with
that release will handle the 690Mbyte disks OK.