hysell@kodak.UUCP (John Hysell) (05/25/89)
A while back, I saw a few folks kicking around the notion of putting an
Appletalk card into a 3000 or 4000 series Apollo, and then modifying the
PRSVR to converse with an Apple LaserWriter over Appletalk. This was
supposed to address the poor printing speed when dealing with large bitmap
output like those that result from CPSCR calls.
Has anyone actually done this? What driver do you use, and where
do you purchase the cards? (Are they standard Apple-supplied boards?)
-Johnart@MITRE.MITRE.ORG (Art McClinton) (05/25/89)
ipt
Calabasas, CA
818/347-7791
has the product you are asking about. I have seen it running in the local
Apollo sales office. I am just now ordering it so can not give you any
first hand experience. Appears to have lots of software to do many different
things.
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*---Art
*
*Arthur T. McClinton Jr. ARPA: ART@MITRE.ARPA
*Mitre Corporation MS-Z305 Phone: 703-883-6356
*1820 Dolley Madison Blvd Internal Mitre: ART@MWVMS or M10319@MWVM
*McLean, Va. 22102 DECUS DCS: MCCLINTON
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A while back, I saw a few folks kicking around the notion of putting an
Appletalk card into a 3000 or 4000 series Apollo, and then modifying the
PRSVR to converse with an Apple LaserWriter over Appletalk. This was
supposed to address the poor printing speed when dealing with large bitmap
output like those that result from CPSCR calls.
Has anyone actually done this? What driver do you use, and where
do you purchase the cards? (Are they standard Apple-supplied boards?)
-Johnkrowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (05/25/89)
Most of the people I have talked to who have actually used IPT's software have given it so-so ratings. The typical comment was "it works, but it's kind of kludgey ...". If anyone has had any better experience with IPT's product (or the lattest versions of it), I'd like to hear about it. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter@athena.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)
shull@scrolls.wharton.upenn.edu (Christopher E. Shull) (05/26/89)
In article <8905242205.AA02485@mitre.arpa> art@MITRE.MITRE.ORG (Art McClinton) writes: >ipt >Calabasas, CA >818/347-7791 >has the product you are asking about. I have seen it running in the local >Apollo sales office. I am just now ordering it so can not give you any >first hand experience. Appears to have lots of software to do many different >things. > > > >* >*---Art >* >*Arthur T. McClinton Jr. ARPA: ART@MITRE.ARPA >*Mitre Corporation MS-Z305 Phone: 703-883-6356 >*1820 Dolley Madison Blvd Internal Mitre: ART@MWVMS or M10319@MWVM >*McLean, Va. 22102 DECUS DCS: MCCLINTON >* > > =-=- This note is in response to yours which follows -=-= > >A while back, I saw a few folks kicking around the notion of putting an >Appletalk card into a 3000 or 4000 series Apollo, and then modifying the >PRSVR to converse with an Apple LaserWriter over Appletalk. This was >supposed to address the poor printing speed when dealing with large bitmap >output like those that result from CPSCR calls. > Has anyone actually done this? What driver do you use, and where >do you purchase the cards? (Are they standard Apple-supplied boards?) > >-John Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Apollo on Appletalk Summary: IPT does NOT spool to LaserWriter via AppleTalk. Expires: References: <1895@kodak.UUCP> <8905242205.AA02485@mitre.arpa> Sender: Reply-To: shull@scrolls.wharton.upenn.edu (Christopher E. Shull) Followup-To: Distribution: world Organization: desci Keywords: Appletalk, LaserWriter, screendumps In article <1895@kodak.UUCP> hysell@kodak.UUCP (John Hysell) asks: >A while back, I saw a few folks kicking around the notion of putting an >Appletalk card into a 3000 or 4000 series Apollo, and then modifying the >PRSVR to converse with an Apple LaserWriter over Appletalk. This was >supposed to address the poor printing speed when dealing with large bitmap >output like those that result from CPSCR calls. > Has anyone actually done this? What driver do you use, and where >do you purchase the cards? (Are they standard Apple-supplied boards?) In article <8905242205.AA02485@mitre.arpa> art@MITRE.MITRE.ORG (Art McClinton) replies: >ipt >Calabasas, CA >818/347-7791 >has the product you are asking about. I have seen it running in the local >Apollo sales office. I am just now ordering it so can not give you any >first hand experience. Appears to have lots of software to do many different >things. > While IPT does have some nice software for integrating Macintoshes and Apollos, the integration is somewhat one-sided. Specifically, the Macs join the Apollo network, but the Apollos are really just servers for the Macs. The Macs can use the Apollo resources (printers, files, mail services, and even computational power (via terminal emlation)), but the reverse is never possible! Last I heard, about a year ago, IPT was working on allowing the Apollos to access the Macintosh hard disks, at least for backups. I bought one of just about everything they sell, and are currently waiting for the SR10.1 version of their software. The AppleTalk card for the Apollo works, but, again, the software only lets the Macs queue print jobs to an Apollo print queue directory, but there is no facility for having a print server spooling out to an AppleTalk printer. I have repeatedly requested this feature, but IPT doesn't seem interested. On the positive side, their software does what the literature says it does, and pretty well at that! Unfortunately their sales folk frequently equivocate when pressed for functional details. Their products are very reasonably priced, both hardware, including the AppleTalk card for the Apollo, and an Ethernet card for the Mac SE, and software, including file transfer, file access, electronic mail access, print spooler, and terminal emulator. I don't hesitate to recommend these products to folks who can benefit from the integration of Mac into the Apollo environment, but don't expect them to integrate the Apollos into the Mac environment -- at least not in the near future. -Chris Christopher E. Shull Decision Sciences Department The Wharton School shull@wharton.upenn.edu University of Pennsylvania shull@scrolls.wharton.upenn.edu Philadelphia, PA 19104-6366 215/898-5930 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" Admiral Farragut, USN, 1801-1870 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------