[comp.sys.apollo] Subnetting and Routing Problems

schmidt@cadlab.UUCP (Michael Schmidt) (07/26/89)

After installing Class B Internet numbers with a subnet mask of
255.255.254.0 we encountered problems with routing. Perhaps
somebody out there can give us a hint.


Machines:

	SUN 3				SunOS 4.0.1, SunOS 3.5
	Apollo 3000/3500		AEGIS 9.7 (Networking version 3.2)
	Nixdorf Targon/35 (Pyramid)	TOS 3.3.03 

I don't know, whether the Targon OS No. is the same, Pyramid
called ist. But I really would like to know that.


Network:

Apollo token ring, gateway Apollo on an Ethernet with Sun's and
Targon/35's, one of them has a SLIP connection to another SUN.


Situation:

Targons and Apollos get the routing tables of the Apollo. Fine.

Sun don't get the routing tables. Bad. Routed gets a response to
its request, but after 3 minutes, all is dead again. So
apparently the Sun don't get the broadcasts of the Apollo. 

The Targon with the SLIP connection broadcasts over the SLIP. OK.
But on the ethernet, nothing is heard by all the other machines.

What is going on here? Any idea?
-- 
    Michael Schmidt, CADLAB / FB 17, Uni-GH Paderborn, Bahnhofstr. 32,
                     D-4790 Paderborn, West Germany
Mail:   schmidt@cadlab.UUCP         or          schmidt@cadlab.cadlab.de

petri (Stefan Petri) (07/27/89)

In article <506@cadlab.cadlab.de> schmidt@cadlab.UUCP (Michael Schmidt) writes:
>
>After installing Class B Internet numbers with a subnet mask of
>255.255.254.0 we encountered problems with routing. Perhaps
>somebody out there can give us a hint.
>
>
>Machines:
>
>	SUN 3				SunOS 4.0.1, SunOS 3.5
>	Apollo 3000/3500		AEGIS 9.7 (Networking version 3.2)
>	Nixdorf Targon/35 (Pyramid)	TOS 3.3.03 
>
Our Machines :
	Nixdorf Targon/35 (Pyramid)	TOS 3.2.00 , NSP 3.2.01
	SUN 3				SunOS 4.0
	SIEMENS PC			SINIX 2.0, SINIX 5.?
All on a single Ethernet, but we are using class A adresses.

>I don't know, whether the Targon OS No. is the same, Pyramid
>called ist. But I really would like to know that.
>
So would I.
>
>Situation:
>
>Targons and Apollos get the routing tables of the Apollo. Fine.
>
>Sun don't get the routing tables. Bad. Routed gets a response to
>its request, but after 3 minutes, all is dead again. So
>apparently the Sun don't get the broadcasts of the Apollo. 
>
>The Targon with the SLIP connection broadcasts over the SLIP. OK.
>But on the ethernet, nothing is heard by all the other machines.
>
We had a similar problem with `rwhod' until we changed our broadcast-address :
( from /etc/rc.local : )

# TODO:  Define any machine host and network names here,  
#        then check the "ifconfig" commands.
ENET0=$HOST
# ENET1=${HOST}-alt
BROAD0=89.00.00.00
# BROAD1=altnet-broad
NETMASK0=0xff000000
# NETMASK1=0xffffff00

We don't use the routed, and we never tested it, but try exchanging '00's and
'ff's in your broadcast-addresses.
Also the ".254." in your subnet-address looks a bit strange to me.
	     ^

Stefan Petri					<petri@tubsibr.UUCP>
Technische Universitaet Braunschweig, Institut fuer Betriebssysteme und
Rechnerverbund, 3300 Braunschweig, W. Germany.
Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead.

schmidt@cadlab.cadlab.de (Michael Schmidt) (07/28/89)

In article <506@cadlab.cadlab.de>, schmidt@cadlab (Michael Schmidt) writes:
>
>After installing Class B Internet numbers with a subnet mask of
>255.255.254.0 we encountered problems with routing. Perhaps
>somebody out there can give us a hint.

Solved it (in a way): I gave all "ifconfig"'s a "broadcast <sub
net address>" and all is working fine now. Thanks for the hints.
-- 
    Michael Schmidt, CADLAB / FB 17, Uni-GH Paderborn, Bahnhofstr. 32,
                     D-4790 Paderborn, West Germany
Mail:   schmidt@cadlab.UUCP         or          schmidt@cadlab.cadlab.de