[comp.sys.apollo] Accounting ?

MICHAL@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Merlin The Magician) (08/12/89)

Hi Y'all,

  My boss has recently asked me to come up with reports about usage
of 16 DN4000 Apollo workstations that we support for the School of 
Engineering. Obviously some accounting software will be nice to have
in order to get some data. The only thing that there is on the system
that I have found is the printer/plotter accounting.

  I can handle in some crude way disk usage accounting, just go over
each directory of every user and collect the grandtotals. 
More difficult will be process accounting and for instance,
restricting people to use only X Kbytes of disk space.

  I saw some message here where there was a mention of accouting
software. Is it something that Apollo makes and we don't have it ?
Or better, is it public domain, or still better, can I use it ?

  Any responses will be greatly appreciated. Either post or e-mail.

-- Merlin
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GBOPOLY1@NUSVM.BITNET (fclim) (08/14/89)

In article <8432@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> michal%kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
%wupost%wugate.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Merlin The Magician) writes:

>  My boss has recently asked me to come up with reports about usage
> of 16 DN4000 Apollo workstations that we support for the School of
> Engineering. Obviously some accounting software will be nice to have
> in order to get some data. The only thing that there is on the system
> that I have found is the printer/plotter accounting.
>
>  I can handle in some crude way disk usage accounting, just go over
> each directory of every user and collect the grandtotals.
> More difficult will be process accounting and for instance,
> restricting people to use only X Kbytes of disk space.
>
> -- Merlin

I don't know whether Apollo Domain/OS (ie SR10+) has disk quota or
disk usage accounting, but you can switch on process accounting via
"/etc/accton".  This command is documented in the "Managing your
BSD software" manual for sys-admins.  The man page is in Section 8
and listed under (surprising) /etc/sa.

You *don't* need to install the BSD environment to
have the accounting facility.

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GBOPOLY1@NUSVM.BITNET (fclim) (08/18/89)

Can someone help Michal?  I sez that the sys-admin need not install
the BSD environment (when he's installing SR10) to have the /etc/accton
facility.  Because I have not install SR10, I'm not sure why Michal
couldn't find /etc/accton.

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From: Merlin The Magician <MICHAL@UKANVAX.BITNET>
Subject: RE: Accounting ?
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> From: GBOPOLY1@NUSVM.BITNET (fclim)
> Subject:RE: Accounting ?
> Date: 14 Aug 89 09:33:46 GMT
> Message-ID:<8908140934.AA18876@umix.cc.umich.edu>
>
> I don't know whether Apollo Domain/OS (ie SR10+) has disk quota or
> disk usage accounting, but you can switch on process accounting via
> "/etc/accton".  This command is documented in the "Managing your
> BSD software" manual for sys-admins.  The man page is in Section 8
> and listed under (surprising) /etc/sa.
>
> You *don't* need to install the BSD environment to
> have the accounting facility.

  Well, there does not seem to be anything like /etc/accton.
I came across a three-program accounting env. You have one process
sitting in the background and collecting info every X sec. Ther other
program signals new users on the system and when users log off.
The program was written by Scott (..) from Apollo. The program is
unsupported. Is that you have meant by /etc/accton. ?
Furthermore, running the above mentioned program couses a 20 fold
slowdown, not an acceptable trade-off.

  Well, I'll look around for the /etc/accton but no clue as to where
it can be.
  Thanks for you input.
-Merlin

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MICHAL@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Merlin The Magician) (08/18/89)

Let's see. In 2 or 3 weeks we are supposed to install the SR10 I
believe so hold your good advice till then. If I still can't find a
trace of accounting software, y'all will hear from me, ya' hea' ?
-Merlin

ins_bxl@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Xuyong Liu) (08/22/89)

In article <8908180858.AA04835@umix.cc.umich.edu> GBOPOLY1@NUSVM.BITNET (fclim) writes:
>Can someone help Michal?  I sez that the sys-admin need not install
>the BSD environment (when he's installing SR10) to have the /etc/accton
>facility.  Because I have not install SR10, I'm not sure why Michal
>couldn't find /etc/accton.
>

We installed complete BSD4.3 environment of SR10.1, and the accounting
facility came with the standard Apollo release. The related executibles are
/bsd4.3/etc/accton and /bsd4.3/etc/sa. I am not sure if you have to install
BSD environment to get those facilities.

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