[comp.sys.apollo] lpd problems , X Windows

andrewn@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew D Nimmo) (08/09/89)

	Regarding recent questions about setting up lpd for an apollo network, 
	we cannot get it to work as described in the administration manual.

	We are running SR10.1 ( and SR10.0P on a DN10000 ) - 

	prmgr, prsvr and lpd run on the printing node, the spool queues are
	also on the printing node.
	If the other nodes on the ring have a spool directory with a file
	'servername' specifying the printing node any print requests are
	queued but the warning 'no daemons present' is returned.  The only
	way to cause printing to start is to restart (lpc) the required 
	printer on the printing node.

	We do actually have lpd working by running lpd on every node, but
	with the printcap file giving the full pathname of the spool
	directory on the printing node (the only /usr/spool/lpd directory
	in the network).

	NB The DN10000 doesn't even work using the second method.

	Is this a problem with lpd, NCS or something else?


	On a completely different subject - I have X Windows Version
	2, Revision 3 up and running on our network.  When will 
	apollo (UK or US) release their official version (with
	X Windows and DM support) and the MOTIF interface?

 
	Andrew D. Nimmo 

	VLSI and Graphics Research Group,
	EAPS II,
	University of Sussex, 
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	BRIGHTON,
	East Sussex.
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	U.K.

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tim@tim.UUCP (Tim Giebelhaus) (08/11/89)

In article <1220@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andrewn@syma.UUCP (Andrew D Nimmo) writes:
>
>	Regarding recent questions about setting up lpd for an apollo network, 
>	we cannot get it to work as described in the administration manual.
>
>	We are running SR10.1 ( and SR10.0P on a DN10000 ) - 
>
>	prmgr, prsvr and lpd run on the printing node, the spool queues are
>	also on the printing node.

What I take it that you are tring to do is to be able to print with
both prf and lpr.  Does the prf work?  If prf will not work, then you
do not stand much of a chance of getting lpr to work.

I take it the printcap looks like:
lp|line printer:\
        :pc=/com/prf -banner off -text -npag -headers off:lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/usr/spool/lpd/lp:if=/usr/lib/lpf:\
        :af=/usr/adm/lpacct:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:

This should send unix prints to the aegis printing system.

>	If the other nodes on the ring have a spool directory with a file
>	'servername' specifying the printing node any print requests are
>	queued but the warning 'no daemons present' is returned.  The only
>	way to cause printing to start is to restart (lpc) the required 
>	printer on the printing node.
>
>	We do actually have lpd working by running lpd on every node, but
>	with the printcap file giving the full pathname of the spool
>	directory on the printing node (the only /usr/spool/lpd directory
>	in the network).
I do not understand this part.  It looks as if you are attempting
two different methods of printing.  If you are going to run lpd on
each node, then you should not attempt to set the 'servername' file.
If you are going to run lpd in the pure unix way, all lpd's on 
machines which are not directly connected to the printer should
use the 'rm' specification of the printcap file to tell lpd to send
the job to the machine with the printer.
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abair@nimitz.oakhill.uucp (Alan Bair) (08/12/89)

In article <1220@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andrewn@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew D Nimmo) writes:

	   Regarding recent questions about setting up lpd for an apollo network, 
	   we cannot get it to work as described in the administration manual.

See my follow up to the first lpd question: 1)Had to correct file permissions
according to sysadmin book 2)Have to run copy on each node with own queue.
However, we print to a remote Sun printer.

	   We are running SR10.1 ( and SR10.0P on a DN10000 ) - 

	   prmgr, prsvr and lpd run on the printing node, the spool queues are
	   also on the printing node.
	   If the other nodes on the ring have a spool directory with a file
	   'servername' specifying the printing node any print requests are
	   queued but the warning 'no daemons present' is returned.  The only
	   way to cause printing to start is to restart (lpc) the required 
	   printer on the printing node.

I seem to remember reading something in the release notes for SR10.1 that
indicated a need to restart after each print request.  It was a known
bug and I think they gave a kludgy work around.

	   We do actually have lpd working by running lpd on every node, but
	   with the printcap file giving the full pathname of the spool
	   directory on the printing node (the only /usr/spool/lpd directory
	   in the network).

	   NB The DN10000 doesn't even work using the second method.

One of our 2 nodes is a DN10000 and I got it to work, but then it is
running SR10.1.p

	   Is this a problem with lpd, NCS or something else?


	   On a completely different subject - I have X Windows Version
	   2, Revision 3 up and running on our network.  When will 
	   apollo (UK or US) release their official version (with
	   X Windows and DM support) and the MOTIF interface?

Another person in our group managed to get a Beta release of Domain/X11,
Shared X, from Apollo.  I am not sure what restrictions were placed on it.
He also seems to think it will be a released product in a couple months,
but this is all speculation.  Apollo/HP - Any comments?

Alan Bair
SPS CAD  Austin, Texas
Motorola, Inc.
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oj@apollo.HP.COM (Ellis Oliver Jones) (08/26/89)

In article <1220@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andrewn@syma.UUCP (Andrew D Nimmo) writes:
>
>	We are running SR10.1 ( and SR10.0P on a DN10000 ) - 
Please! Upgrade your DN10000 as soon as possible to sr10.1.p.  It
really is better in many ways (the size-off-by-4x problem in du not being
one of them :-)

>	On a completely different subject - I have X Windows Version
>	2, Revision 3 up and running on our network.  When will 
>	apollo (UK or US) release their official version (with
>	X Windows and DM support) and the MOTIF interface?

We've got three version of Domain/X11 ("share mode") released from
R&D.  The version for SR10.1 (for Motorola 68k computers) has been available
to order for a while now.  Ask for Domain/X11 version 1.1.

The version for SR10.1.p (for Apollo Prism computers) will be released
from manufacturing very soon if it hasn't been already.  Ask for Domain/X11
version 1.1.p.

If you want to run with SR9.7 ask for Domain/X11 version 1.0.

There's a fee for these packages (I don't know prices, but I believe it's
less than the fee MIT charges for the source kit).

The X Window System will be bundled with SR10.2 on both Motorola m68k
and Apollo Prism computers.