davek@hp-lsd.COS.HP.COM (Dave Kumpf) (08/26/89)
I recently acquired a DN-330 (says DN300-3MB on back, 68020 CPU + 68881 inside) at a surplus sale. With it, I got a SMSD-70M disk (no floppy drive) and most of the Aegis 9.2.3 distribution and manuals. I'd like to get this system running, so I have a few questions: 1) I'm short a couple disks on the 9.2.3 Aegis distribution. Anyone have spares? 2) Does anyone have hardware and service manuals for the above stuff? I got mostly user's guides, software installation and some programming reference stuff. 3) The disk I got contains the hard drive only, not the floppy. I know I can buy 8" drives from surplus houses; the question is, which brand/model? Is the hardware to drive the floppy built in to the unit? (I'd rather not be a floppy controller designer ...) What cable do I need? 4) Finally, when I hook my disk up, the Apollo turns on OK. (although Ring test fails -- presumably because there's no net connection -- what do I use for terminators? (50 ohm terminators?)). If I then execute: >RE > MD2x .............. >EX AEGIS (i.e. the Aegis distribution is apparently already on the disk) The Kernel message for Aegis is then printed at the top of the screen. After a long time, there is a message that the station address doesn't match the one on the boot volume; it asks if I want to proceed. I type yes; I haven't waited long enough to find out if anything else happens. Given that there is a 68020 in the box, I can't imagine that this unit takes longer to boot than a Xerox NS8000 server (40+ minutes ...). Any ideas? (if it helps, ex of some of the other files, such as CPT1, etc, SALVOL seem to work OK.) 5) What kind of mouse does this unit use? It looks like the keyboard has a 9-pin serial port for a mouse: Logitech? Mouse Systems? Microsoft? 6) Now for the wish list: Is there an X11 port for this unit? Do I want to run it in only 3 MB or will it be a hog? Does anyone have a copy of Interleaf for this unit that they would give up cheap? (WPS would be OK, TPS better) Where can I find more general information on Apollos? (I realize that this is an older machine, but somewhere there's got to be data ...) (Sorry if these questions seem lame, but I have no prior experience with Apollo, just HP9000/HP-UX and PCs. Right now, I'm lost trying to figure out what's going on with Apollo's OS. What is it really called: Aegis? Domain_OS? Is it now really UN*X (in SR10)? ????) Thanks. Dave Kumpf hplabs!hp-lsd!davek davek%hp-lsd@hplabs.hp.com Mail: HP Logic Systems Division P.O. Box 617, Colorado Springs, CO 80901-0617 (mail) 8245 N. Union Boulevard, Colorado Springs, CO 80920 (shipments) Phone: (719) 590-5739
krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (08/28/89)
A few things ... 1) just get a regualr rignet cable and loop it back to the node for the network problem. Terminators won't do. It's a ringnet, not an ethernet. It wants to see a token being passed on the net. 2) The floppy controller is built into the hard disk controller. You should have a pair (2) of flat ribbon cables which connect both the hard disk and the floppy (which is mounted in the top of the hard disk cabinet) to the CPU. 3) Your hard disk was initialized on a machine other than the one you now have it connected to. The apollo file system has the CPU ID number attached to each file to help with the distributed file system (it insures that each file has a uniquie ID number even if two or more machines on the network have files of that same name/creation date/type/etc). Use the command "ex chuvol" to change the CPU ID numbers on the disk before you try to boot it. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter@athena.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)
davek@hp-lsd.COS.HP.COM (Dave Kumpf) (08/28/89)
An addendum to my basenote: I finally got the system to boot Aegis by hooking the in and out ports of the net card together with a coax cable (mini Ring...??). At least I get the Apollo phase II shell; I can start DM or SH (however, I can't log in because I don't know any of the passwords to the system stuff -- looks like I'll need to reinstall Aegis anyhow.) Anyway, while booting/running, the disk is now having random read error trouble (thunka, thunka, thunka ... ad infinitum). Are there any utils to find/mark bad spots on the disk so I can use this thing? Thanks. Dave Kumpf hplabs!hp-lsd!davek davek%hp-lsd@hplabs.hp.com