leonard@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Jon B Leonard) (09/15/89)
Is there a new apollo workstation that was just released? I am a grad
student who is interested in getting a cheap unix workstation, and the
blurb in our local newspaper said that the price was about $3700. Is this
price right? What do you get for the money?
Thanks in advancekrowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (09/16/89)
Apollo annouced the DN2500 workstation at the ADUS conference. For $3990 you get: 20 Mhz 68030/68882 4MB of RAM, expandable to 16 MB Your choice of Domain token ring, ethernet, or IBM token ring network controller 15 inch monochrome screen SCSI controller (built into motherboard) Options: 19 monochrome screen (1280x1024) [no color screens supported] 1 or 2 internal SCSI disks, 100 or 200 MB each additional external disks, 8mm tape, and 1/4 inch tape If you are at an educational institution, HP is offering a 38% discount (on both HP and Apollo H/W), so the price of a diskless monochrome system will run you about $2500 (which is less than MIT's discounted price for a Macintosh SE with 2 floppies and 4MB of memory and an ethernet card [which would run about $3500]). -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)
dvadura@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Dennis Vadura) (09/18/89)
In article <8909151903.AA08561@richter.mit.edu> krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) writes: >deleted hardware description ... > This sounds nice, but what about software? Is it going to be as expensive as the regular distribution? -dennis -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only happy people are Single MEN |Dennis UUCP,BITNET: dvadura@water and Married WOMEN. |Vadura EDU,CDN,CSNET: dvadura@waterloo ================================================================================
weiner@novavax.UUCP (Bob Weiner) (09/21/89)
In article <16462@watdragon.waterloo.edu> dvadura@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Dennis Vadura) writes: In article <8909151903.AA08561@richter.mit.edu> krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) writes: >deleted hardware description ... > This sounds nice, but what about software? Is it going to be as expensive as the regular distribution? An Apollo SE today told me that the new model DN2500 requires SR10.2 to run! SR10.2 might not ship until early next year (increased quality audits under the HP way, I understand). This means that only sales units and demo units with beta SR10.2 software will be shipping very soon. The main reason a new release is needed is that the /sau?? system specific software is different. -- Bob Weiner, Motorola, Inc., USENET: ...!gatech!uflorida!novavax!weiner (407) 738-2087
shull@scrolls.wharton.upenn.edu (Christopher E. Shull) (09/21/89)
In article <1468@novavax.UUCP> weiner@novavax.UUCP (Bob Weiner) writes: >An Apollo SE today told me that the new model DN2500 requires SR10.2 to >run! SR10.2 might not ship until early next year (increased quality >audits under the HP way, I understand). This means that only sales >units and demo units with beta SR10.2 software will be shipping very >soon. The main reason a new release is needed is that the /sau?? system >specific software is different. >-- >Bob Weiner, Motorola, Inc., USENET: ...!gatech!uflorida!novavax!weiner >(407) 738-2087 My sales dude, who is usually straight with me, says that there is to be an SR 10.1.+ / SR 10.2.- released with the DN2500. Furthermore, he says this implies that you will need at least one disked DN2500 before adding diskless nodes. Still, the box seems very interesting to me. My question is this though: what is the speed of the SCSI drive with respect to both access time and transfer rate? Better or worse than the ESDI's and by what percentage? -Chris Christopher E. Shull shull@scrolls.wharton.upenn.edu Decision Sciences Department shull@wharton.upenn.edu The Wharton School University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104-6366 215/898-5930 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" Admiral Farragut, USN, 1801-1870 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
pha@CAEN.ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (Paul H. Anderson) (09/21/89)
From: weiner%novavax%uflorida%uakari.primate.wisc.edu%uwm.edu%gem.mps.ohio-state.edu.uucp@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Organization: Motorola Inc. Subject: Re: New Apollo Workstation? In article <16462@watdragon.waterloo.edu> dvadura@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Dennis Vadura) writes: In article <8909151903.AA08561@richter.mit.edu> krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) writes: >deleted hardware description ... > This sounds nice, but what about software? Is it going to be as expensive as the regular distribution? An Apollo SE today told me that the new model DN2500 requires SR10.2 to run! SR10.2 might not ship until early next year (increased quality audits under the HP way, I understand). This means that only sales units and demo units with beta SR10.2 software will be shipping very soon. The main reason a new release is needed is that the /sau?? system specific software is different. -- Bob Weiner, Motorola, Inc., USENET: ...!gatech!uflorida!novavax!weiner (407) 738-2087 The information I have is that the DN2500 will run SR10.1 with a PSK that gets shipped with the 2500. PSK stands for product service kit, and is used to provide small updates to the OS to handle new hardware. Paul Anderson CAEN
krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (09/22/89)
I had a presentation on the DN2500 just yesterday at Chelmsford from one of the product managers. The DN2500 is simply yet another 68020/68030 based Apollo workstation. All it requires is that the disk it is booting off of has the /sau9 directory installed. This directory is included in SR10.2 and is available as a product support kit (PSK) for SR10.1. If the DN2500 is diskless, then it's partner node can be any Apollo node running SR10.1 with the PSK installed or SR10.2. As for delivery dates, they said 45-60 days from receipt of order. Demand for the machines seems to be high. I suspect that the longer you wait before placing an order, the longer the lead time will get. These things are much less expensive than a comparable Macintosh system (even with MIT's volume discounts from Apple). -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)