[comp.sys.apollo] Why is /etc/reboot so unreliable?

lray@CIVILGATE.CE.UIUC.EDU (Ray) (09/30/89)

I've been having considerable problems with /etc/reboot. Over 50% of the
time, the node being rebooted fails to come up with one of the 
following symptoms:

   1. The node says the clock is off and waits forever for a y/n.
   2. The node freezes prior to going into self tests.
   3. The node fails to shut down at all.

Condition 1 is the most understandable. If there has been a crash and
the hardware clock has been scrambled, then it seems clear a sanity
check is in order.

Condition 2 could be something to do with the ROM level of the cpu.
I have not done enough testing to verify when this happens.

Condition 3. is the strangest. It acts like the node is in service mode
when I know for a fact it is in normal mode (yes, pressing the reset 
button works as expected).

The problem with all this is that I simply cannot easily get access to
the offices where there is a node at all times. This means the node
stays down for an unacceptably long period of time while I wait for
a key to become available.

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Does anyone know how /etc/reboot works, enough to give me some insight
as to whats going on here?

                                            Leland Ray
                                            UIUC - CE Dept.
                                            (217) 333-3821

kts@quintro.uucp (Kenneth T. Smelcer) (10/01/89)

In article <8909291722.AA00609@civilgate.ce.uiuc.edu> lray@CIVILGATE.CE.UIUC.EDU (Ray) writes:
>
>I've been having considerable problems with /etc/reboot. Over 50% of the
>time, the node being rebooted fails to come up with one of the 
>following symptoms:
>
>   1. The node says the clock is off and waits forever for a y/n.
>   2. The node freezes prior to going into self tests.
>   3. The node fails to shut down at all.
>
[ explanations of above conditions ]
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>
>Does anyone know how /etc/reboot works, enough to give me some insight
>as to whats going on here?
>

Have you tried /etc/reboot with different types of nodes?  I've noticed on
our system that 'reboot' works fine with our DN3000s, but fails 90% of the
time on our DN3500 nodes.  Note: all our nodes had SR10.1 loaded from one
AA on a 3500, so I don't think it's a garbled/out-dated version problem.

Just for the record, I really enjoy having the /etc/reboot option available.
It makes my life much easier, especially when I can dial in from home and
reset things, instead of always having to be on the scene.

>                                            Leland Ray
>                                            UIUC - CE Dept.
>                                            (217) 333-3821
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jnp@mjolner.tele.nokia.fi (J|rgen N|rgaard) (10/11/89)

(System: DN3500/SR10.1/BSD4.3/ADUS X11R3)

Okay, my experience is that reboot'ing from the DM is unlikely to work;
ends with trashed screen. Cure: reset !

Run via rlogin's or xterm's work in more (>>90%) of the cases.

Whereas shutdown -r doesn't in either case.

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