lau@kings.wharton.upenn.edu (Yan K. Lau) (02/16/90)
Thanks to all the responses (thanks!!) from the net, I was able to get the latest version of C-Kermit to run on our Apollos. I am now able to specify, for instance, ttyp0 as the line. However, I am still unable to accomplish what I want. The scenario is as follows: I telnet to the Apollos from another machine or from a PC or Mac with an ethernet card. I would like to use kermit to download files directly from the Apollos to the PC or Mac. Is this possible? I can specify the ttyp that I log in through. However, the local kermit and Apollo kermit doesn't seem to be communicating. Yan. )~ Yan K. Lau lau@kings.wharton.upenn.edu The Wharton School ~/~ -Sheenaphile- 128.91.11.233 University of Pennsylvania /\ Darker grows the moon And shadows steal across the prison of my room
wescott@LNIC1.HPRC.UH.EDU (Andrew M. Wescott) (02/17/90)
If you are using a PC or Mac with an ethernet card you'd probably be better off using ftp. You can download NCSA Telnet (with ftp abilities)) from 128.174.20.50. They also have some X and Mac based 2d visualization packages. The X stuff runs fine under SR 10.2. Andrew Wescott University of Houston Department of Chemical Engineering
rtp1@tank.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert) (02/20/90)
All the Mac implementations of Kermit I know are designed to work
over the serial line using raw Kermit protocals (i.e. not Appletalk,
which also can go out over the serial line). No amount of tty
setting, hacking, etc. on the Apollo will change this. On your
PC or mac you need to have some way to redirect the stream to the
TCP/IP handler. With most telecomm applications, this cannot be done
without recoding and recompiling (with the Mac communications toolbox, that
may eventually change).
Sometimes, I feel I'd like to use Versaterm Pro on my mac to communicate
over Ethernet (instead of telnet), but mostly THERE IS NO NEED TO KERMIT
OVER A TCP/IP NETWORK. It is inefficient, as Kermit does all sorts of
packetizing and error checking which just duplicates what you get
built in to TCP/IP. If you want to transfer files to/from a PC or
mac on Ethernet (or other net + bridge), use NCSA Telnet, which is free
and has FTP built in.
On the other hand, when I log in to a unix box over the phone
lines from my Mac, then telnet to my APollo from there, I can
run kermit (Versaterm Pro on the Mac side, c-kermit on the APollo
side) with no problem , as long as the comm link is 8-bits/no parityt
all the way through.
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:lau@kings.wharton.upenn.edu (Yan K. Lau) (02/20/90)
In article <9002161704.AA16287@lnic1.hprc.uh.edu> wescott@LNIC1.HPRC.UH.EDU (Andrew M. Wescott) writes: >If you are using a PC or Mac with an ethernet card you'd probably >be better off using ftp. You can download NCSA Telnet (with ftp > >Andrew Wescott Obviously I didn't make myself clear when I requested help on kermit. From our PC or Mac We dial-in to a Encore terminal server which allows telnet to our Apollos from which we would like to Kermit back to our PC or Mac computer. Given this scenario, we can't use ftp. Any suggestions? Is this possible? Yan. )~ Yan K. Lau lau@kings.wharton.upenn.edu The Wharton School ~/~ -Sheenaphile- 128.91.11.233 University of Pennsylvania /\ Darker grows the moon And shadows steal across the prison of my room
hanche@imf.unit.no (Harald Hanche-Olsen) (02/21/90)
>From our PC or Mac We dial-in to a Encore terminal server which allows
telnet to our Apollos from which we would like to Kermit back to our PC
or Mac computer. Given this scenario, we can't use ftp.
Any suggestions? Is this possible?
It should be perfectly possible. We do the same thing every day, and
have no problems with it. (Our terminal server is a Spider, not an
Encore. However, that should make no difference so long as Ctrl-A,
CR and every printing character are passed through the communications
link unharmed). What's even better, no magic at all is required to
make it work! When you are ready to transfer a file, just say
"kermit -s file(s)" to send or "kermit -r" to receive (or "kermit -x"
for a server), give the appropriate commands to your local kermit,
then lean back and enjoy the show.