[comp.sys.apollo] Motif Window Manager and DM

u36009@U2.NCSA.UIUC.EDU (06/13/90)

I just got Motif and would like to use the window manager (mwm).  It runs
OK (hopfully the PSK5 will make the performance better) and actually gets
along quite well with the DM.  I have a couple of small problems which
maybe someone else has been through:
  
  1) Is there any way to get DM to not put the borders on the top of each
     pad (eg: pad0002, file names, "I", "S", etc.)?  It would be nice to
     give the window title to mwm and have mwm put in its title bar.  Right
     now I get a window title of "***" in each DM-owned window.

  2) Is there any way of telling mwm to NOT put borders around (and NOT
     manage) the three DM windows at the bottom of the display?  I know
     you can turn these off with dmio -off, but they are slow to come up
     when you need them.

If there is anyone out there who uses mwm and DM together and has any ideas
on these items, I would be interested sharing info.

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      Kem Ahlers                 u36009@u2.ncsa.uiuc.edu  (Internet) 
      Caterpillar, Inc. 
      Peoria, IL  USA 

rlr@apollo.HP.COM (Robert Raymond) (06/14/90)

In article <9006131556.AA12949@u2.ncsa.uiuc.edu>,
u36009@U2.NCSA.UIUC.EDU writes:
|> I just got Motif and would like to use the window manager (mwm).  It runs
|> OK (hopfully the PSK5 will make the performance better) and actually gets
|> along quite well with the DM.  I have a couple of small problems which
|> maybe someone else has been through:
|>   
|>   1) Is there any way to get DM to not put the borders on the top of each
|>      pad (eg: pad0002, file names, "I", "S", etc.)?
No, not that I am aware of.
|>      It would be nice to
|>      give the window title to mwm and have mwm put in its title bar.  Right
|>      now I get a window title of "***" in each DM-owned window.
|> 
In psk5 pads have names.
|>   2) Is there any way of telling mwm to NOT put borders around (and NOT
|>      manage) the three DM windows at the bottom of the display?  I know
|>      you can turn these off with dmio -off, but they are slow to come up
|>      when you need them.
In psk5 the 3 DM windows are named.  By putting
Mwm*winname.clientDecoration none
in your resource file you will tell mwm not to put anything around windows
named winname.
|> 
|> If there is anyone out there who uses mwm and DM together and has any ideas
|> on these items, I would be interested sharing info.
|> 
|> 
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|>       Kem Ahlers                 u36009@u2.ncsa.uiuc.edu  (Internet) 
|>       Caterpillar, Inc. 
|>       Peoria, IL  USA 

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burati@apollo.HP.COM (Mike Burati) (06/15/90)

>  1) Is there any way to get DM to not put the borders on the top of each
>     pad (eg: pad0002, file names, "I", "S", etc.)?  It would be nice to
>     give the window title to mwm and have mwm put in its title bar.  Right
>     now I get a window title of "***" in each DM-owned window.

    I don't believe there is (if I knew of a way, I'd be using it).  BUT,
one thing you probably want to do if you have a color system, and are using
both mwm and dm, is to tell the DM not to use any colors (other than b/w)
for the DM borders.  Otherwise, you'll have both mwm and the dm using up
colors in the color table...  To do this, type "mono -on" in the DM command
window before bringing up mwm.  It doesn't really make your system a mono,
it just tells the dm that it only has 2 colors to use for it's borders and
pad headers...

>  2) Is there any way of telling mwm to NOT put borders around (and NOT
>     manage) the three DM windows at the bottom of the display?  I know
>     you can turn these off with dmio -off, but they are slow to come up
>     when you need them.

Yup, put the following two lines in your ~/.Xresources file 

Mwm*/sys/dm/input.clientDecoration:     none
Mwm*output*clientDecoration:            none

    Then execute the command: "xrdb -load < ~/.Xresources"
and restart Mwm (either by killing/restarting or by the menu item to
restart it).  Note you only have to execute the xrdb command the first
time you restart mwm after editing .Xresources (this saves you from having
to log out and back in again).  Note: you can also put "resize" instead
of "none" for the option, but not too many people ever resize their DM
command window.

..Mike
burati@apollo.HP.com
ps: I'm not in graphics or UE, I just happen to use mwm & the DM together,
    *and* just happened to be playing with the DM command window client
    decoration before I read the preceeding article.