[comp.sys.apollo] dde @ sr 10.3

mike@tuvie (Inst.f.Techn.Informatik) (07/10/90)

A beta-tester of sr 10.3 posted that it is possible to use 
X11 without DM anymore. If so, how do programs that depend 
on pads, work - if they work at all? I can probably live 
without /com/dspst and the like, but what about dde? 
Has it been adapted to work in an X only environment? Or
do you have to run DM support if you want dde to work?

Maybe Apollo should write a pad emulation for X. Just like
xterm for vt100 and xpcterm on some 386 boxes to emulate 
a PC console?

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rees@dabo.ifs.umich.edu (Jim Rees) (07/11/90)

In article <1668@tuvie>, mike@tuvie (Inst.f.Techn.Informatik) writes:
    Maybe Apollo should write a pad emulation for X. Just like
    xterm for vt100 and xpcterm on some 386 boxes to emulate 
    a PC console?

There happens to be an OST pad trait, and I almost wrote an xpad once. But
that would just get you the pad calls, not gpr, so things like dde still
wouldn't work.  I only have one program that I use regularly that could run
in "xpad" and I decided it would be easier and more portable to re-write it
to use X directly.

If I had a good debugger that didn't need pad support I could drop the DM
today.

For the guy trying to get the vt100 emulator to work:  Why not use xterm
instead?

Speaking of X, I now have a shared, inlibed x11r4lib.  My r4 clients have
gone from 500-900K to 5-250K.  xrn, for example, went from 950K to 225K.