jimr@maths.su.oz.au (Jim Richardson) (07/05/90)
Last year HP/Apollo announced that all m68k-based workstation purchases by educational institutions from 17 October 1989 would include free licences for * Mathematica * WingZ spreadsheet * Island Graphics' iWrite, iPaint, iDraw The announcement indicated that Mathematica was already available at that time and that the other programs would ship early in 1990. Customers do have to pay for media and documentation. We ordered the media and doc together with several DN2500s in November 1990. The machines arrived in February. Our sales rep has kindly lent us a demo version of Mathematica with a licence limited to one node and expiring soon, but he hasn't come up with an official version. He is also about to let us have a beta-release version of the Island programs, but has no news about WingZ. Has any educational site anywhere managed to obtain their free licences for this software? If so, how did you go about getting the passwords required to run Mathematica (in particular) on more than one node? Please reply by mail if possible: I'll summarize if I get any answers. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Jim Richardson Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia Internet: jimr@maths.su.oz.au ACSNET: jimr@maths.su.oz FAX: +61 2 692 4534
krowitz%richter@UMIX.CC.UMICH.EDU (David Krowitz) (07/06/90)
We had a similar experience regarding Mathematica licenses. We do, however, now have permanent licenses for all 6 of our DN2500's and DN3500's purchased after Oct. 1989. Call Daniel Stih at Wolfram Research. He should have a list of all workstations bought by educational institutions after 10/17/89, and he will issue you passwords for each workstation he has in the database. If Daniel is not available, you can try Zoe Penny, also at Wolfram. If you find that your nodes are not in Wolfram's database, then call the HP Educational Marketing office in Fort Collins. You want to speak to Art Sward (303-229-6043) or Phil Farley (303-229-3500) about checking your node ID's and getting them faxed over to Wolfram Research for entry into Wolfram's list of valid educational nodes. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference) P.S. The phone number at Wolfram Research is 217-398-0700. My apologies in advance for any misspelled names.
jimr@maths.su.oz.au (Jim Richardson) (07/12/90)
Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. As Dave Krowitz noted in article <9007061259.AA14551@richter.mit.edu>, Daniel Stih of Wolfram Research can supply passwords for Mathematica on workstations bought by educational institutions after 17 October 1989, provided HP has notified him of the node numbers. He can be reached on +1 217 398 0700, or by email to support@wri.com. Thanks to him we now have passwords for most of our machines (the others were not in his list of nodeids from HP). (Unfortunately despite this Mathematica 1.2 (January 5, 1990) does not work on our DN2500s at SR10.2: it prints a banner but no prompts and seems to ignore everything you type at it except control-C and control-D. It does work on our DN4500 which is still at 10.1. Anybody else seen this? I've asked Wolfram to look into it. While I'm at it has anyone received a later version of Mathe- matica for Apollos? There's supposed to be one coming eventually that will fix a bug that prevents you running the package under the DM while crp'ed.) Dave indicated that if HP has not supplied nodeids to Wolfram you should call Art Sward (+1 303 229 6043) or Phil Farley (+1 303 229 3500) at the HP Educa- tional Marketing office in Fort Collins. Such a call means getting up in the middle of the night for me -- I wonder if they have Internet email addresses. A few people who replied were interested in WingZ, but apparently it has not been released (yet?). Nobody seemed to want the Island Graphics software except us. But in case someone out there does, I'll report that I've now received a beta version from our HP sales rep. It requires PSK5 to run: that seems to be product support kit for SR10.2, also available only in beta, which enhances X et al so it can run HPVUE 1.0 ... *also* available only as a beta release so far. I didn't get any installation instructions for Island, but among other things on the tape is the following: # ls -l i* -rwxrwxrwx+ 1 root 1799217 Jun 7 20:25 islandinstall # file i* islandinstall: unstruct apollo m68k executable (COFF) not stripped 1.8 MB for an *install tool*? I've been too scared to run it so far. The documentation for the Island software says it requires the Motif Window Manager mwm, which is not bundled with Domain/OS, but comes as part of HPVUE, and perhaps can also be obtained separately from HP. I suppose HP will be supplying all educational customers with a free copy so they can run the promised free Island software. But I suppose a lot of things about HP that end up disappointing me ... -- Jim Richardson Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia Internet: jimr@maths.su.oz.au ACSNET: jimr@maths.su.oz FAX: +61 2 692 4534
krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (07/12/90)
We've found that Mathematica's installation is dependent on the revision level of the node that the installation is done on. If the node is running say 10.1, then that particular copy of Mathematica will not execute on nodes running 10.2 and vice-versa. Apparently, the installation process is binding in some system library which is dependent on the OS rev. level. You can simply perform the installation twice, once from a 10.1 machine and once from a 10.2 machine, and store the copies seperately for each group of machines. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)
lau@kings.wharton.upenn.edu (Yan K. Lau) (07/17/90)
In article <1990Jul12.023610.1184@metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> jimr@maths.su.oz.au (Jim Richardson) writes: > >A few people who replied were interested in WingZ, but apparently it has not >been released (yet?). Does anyone have more specific information on WingZ? Has it been released? If not, when will it be available? We were supposed to get it with the new machine we ordered but it didn't shipped. What's the situation? Yan. )~ Yan K. Lau lau@kings.wharton.upenn.edu The Wharton School ~/~ -Sheenaphile- 128.91.11.233 University of Pennsylvania /\ God/Goddess/All that is -- the source of love, light and inspiration!
frank@CAEN.ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (Randy Frank) (07/25/90)
Note on installing Mathematica on the Apollos: You must go thru the software build procedure for mathematica for each o/s release (10.1, 10.2, 10.3) independly and from a node running that release. If you build a version under from a 10.1 node it won't run on a 10.2 (or 10.3) nodes, and vice-versa. From experience this is probably the cause of it starting up and then hanging.