[comp.sys.apollo] Apollo pricing

scollins@uswat.uswest.com (Steven Collins) (08/15/90)

	Could some body give me an idea of how much these
	systems are worth?  Maybe used as X-Terminals if 
	nothing else. I know sqwat about Apollos. 

	Apollo DN660              
	4 Meg Memory
	1024x768 19" color  
 	  	
	Apollo DN660              
	4 Meg Memory
	1024x768 19" color  
	300MB Drive


	Apollo/Mentor DN660       
	8 Meg Memory
	1280x1024 19" color  
	300MB Drive

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krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) (08/15/90)

Apollo DN660 are worth exactly $0. We had several DN460/660 nodes which we
just got rid of. We tried about 3 or 4 used computer dealers and/or brokers
who all told us that the cost of shipping the machines exceeded their
value as spare parts. The one exception to this is if you already have
several of these machines and need a couple more to strip for spares.

These machines have roughly the same performance as a DN3000 (12 Mhz 68020
with 12 Mhz 68881 FPU) for integer and single precision floating point
work. For double precision work they are roughly 1/2 the speed of the 
DN3000. The 4 MB machines would not be usable as X terminals. Apollo's
X server which is included with SR10.2 needs at least 8 MB for decent
performance.

These machines are 5 to 6 years old, and are Motorola 68010/68020 compatible
custom built CPUs. In the Apollo workstation market, if more than 3 years have
elapsed since the product was introduced, it is considered marginally obsolete
(even though you may have bought yours brand new only 18 months ago). A 5 year
old product is virtually unsupported. Believe me -- I ran some of these
nodes under SR10.2.


 -- David Krowitz

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