[comp.sys.apollo] ADUS conference news and dde bug

nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) (10/26/90)

In article <9010251426.AA17378@richter.mit.edu> krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) writes:
>Kee, here's a question for you (since you were in the graphics group at
>Chelmsford) ...
Not really, I was in User Environment.  But anyway.

>How do existing GPR and GMR programs works in an X-only evironment (assuming
>that there are no PAD_$ calls in them)? Do frame, direct, and borrow mode
>graphics work in an X environment from GPR and GMR?
If you mean raw, borrow-mode X with no share-mode extensions the answer
is simple.  They don't work at all. They just hang trying to start up.
They aren't particularly killable either, since they hang somewhere
in the depths of the system.

In share-mode you can run borrow-mode stuff fine.  Frame mode I
believe is a DM-ism, so you'd have to be in a pad.  Direct mode
also wants a pad-id to start up, but there are calls that use a
rectangle-id (Apollo'ism for window-id, but not the same as the X
ones) to initialize things instead.

For what it's worth dde does run in raw X, although without the
graphics of course.  It also spits out some rather funny errors
about your device not supporting graphics.  I still find it
better to use than dbx.  The only major problem is that the
view command is broken (is anyone listening? should I bother
sending in an apr?) and will only show one line at a time.
I suppose I should be thankful it has one at all, it almost 
didn't.  
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