[comp.sys.apollo] subnetting without subnetting

mcguire@math.uiowa.edu (Charlie McGuire) (10/31/90)

In article <1990Oct31.015412.27732@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu>,
james@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Alfred Monschke) writes:
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|> We are having problems setting up network access for our network of Apollo 
|> work stations.
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|>    Physically this is set up as a subnet to the campus network, however, we
|> have bridges instead of routers on the campus ethernet network, and cannot
|> set up sub-netting because of this.  Changing the bridges to routers is
|> not a possibility at this point, both because of cost, and because some 
|> older machines on campus can't support sub-netting.

This is confusing. Your Apollo gateway machine must assume the router role.
Check out routed.  

|>    As we have things set up right now, we have tcp-ip access from the 
|> one Apollo workstation with the ethernet card to the ethernet side of
|> the network, but no tcp-ip access from any machine on the token-ring 
|> side to the ethernet side, or from any machine on the token-ring side 
|> to the one machine with ethernet access.

You must run routed (or gated, see below) to get IP services within the ring.

|>    Our goal is to have complete campus and internet tcp-ip access for
|> every Apollo work-station in our network, but to do this we need some
|> kind of software that will allow the node running both network cards to 
|> act as a bridge, so that it can forward packets that don't have its own 
|> address.  I believe proxyarp is the normal way of doing this, but I
|> have been told that it is not available for the Apollos, does anybody
|> have any additional information, or other possible tactics to try for
|> getting access across this node?  

What you want is a router, not a bridge.
I am sure gated will do proxy rip. There is an unsupported copy of gated in
/domain_exmaples/tcp. More recent versions are probably available via ftp.
Even with proxy rip, the other ("older") machines must at least support static
routing in order to return traffic. The static route could point to a proxy.
Without doing proxy rip, comprehensive static tables will have to be 
maintained on every machine that cannot do rip.

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