rand@HWCAE.CFSAT.HONEYWELL.COM (Douglas K. Rand) (11/24/90)
We have been trying out Task Broker from HP/Apollo. It looks great, but we can't get it to run. There seems to be a problem with Internet host names. Task Broker won't run if your fully qualified Internet host name is longer than 15 characters. (From the second field of /etc/hosts.) Well, I work for Honeywell, Commercial Flight Systems, Air Transport Division. So that makes us: <host>.cfsat.honeywell.com and that is a lot longer than 15 characters. We can't change the names back to the short un-qualified host names (as suggested by HP/Apollo) cause that will break our mailers, and a lot else too. Is anybody else out there running Task Broker? Do you have this problem? HP/Apollo says that there will not be a patch for this. It *should* (should they say!) be fixed in the next release. But, there is no date set for the next release. Help! Did HP/Apollo just decide that nobody should have host names longer than 15 characters? (How did they test it at Apollo? <host>.apollo.hp.com leaves them a 1 character host.) Or is there some Internet rule on this? Can it be so difficult to fix? PS: HP Task Broker Version 1.01 6/26/90 19:03:42 Domain/OS kernel(7), revision 10.3, August 22, 1990 3:32:49 pm -- Douglas Keenan Rand Honeywell -- Air Transport Systems Division Phone: +1 602 869 2814 US Snail: P.O. Box 21111 Phoenix AZ 85036 Internet: @cim-vax.honeywell.com:rand@hwcae.cfsat.honeywell.com UUCP: ...!uunet!hpfce!apciphx!hwcae!rand
pcc@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Craine) (11/27/90)
In article <9011240218.AA20834@hwcae.cfsat.honeywell.com>, rand@HWCAE.CFSAT.HONEYWELL.COM (Douglas K. Rand) writes: |> |> Task Broker won't run if your fully qualified Internet host name is |> longer than 15 characters. (From the second field of /etc/hosts.) |> Well, I work for Honeywell, Commercial Flight Systems, Air Transport |> Division. So that makes us: |> <host>.cfsat.honeywell.com |> and that is a lot longer than 15 characters. We can't change the names |> back to the short un-qualified host names (as suggested by HP/Apollo) |> cause that will break our mailers, and a lot else too. Yes, version 1.01 of Task Broker has a limitation that the primary hostname cannot exceed 15 characters. |> |> HP/Apollo says that there will not be a patch for this. It *should* |> (should they say!) be fixed in the next release. But, there is no date |> set for the next release. I spoke to the Task Broker developers when I reported this bug. They said that it will be in the next release. I have no idea when this will be. |> |> Help! |> Did HP/Apollo just decide that nobody should have host names longer |> than 15 characters? (How did they test it at Apollo? Okay. Here we go. Let's talk a little about how the computer side to Hewlett-Packard is set up. There are a great many "divisions" within HP producing products. ASY (Apollo Systems Division) is only one division. There are many more. Many customers mistakenly believe that all products that run on Apollo's come from ASY. As it turns out, MOST of the products that run on Apollo's no longer come out of ASY at all. Many of the R&D folks really work for divisions that aren't even located in Chelmsford. Task Broker was originally written for HP-UX. It was ported to Domain/OS by folks in some other division located in Fort Collins (I don't even remember which division). The 15 character limitation is really the HP-UX limitation. Nobody thought of passing that limitation because we don't use hostnames that large here. |> <host>.apollo.hp.com leaves them a 1 character host.) Or is there some Our real internet hostnames are <host>.ch.apollo.hp.com (don't bother trying to reach it; our gateway doesn't route requests). However, our hostnames are just <host> (//host in the DDS world). We have our network set up so that we don't have to use an internet qualified hostname. |> Internet rule on this? Can it be so difficult to fix? |> Having not looked at the code, I don't know how difficult it is. I suspect that the fix is trivial. If you submit a bug report (not an APR - APR's are for ASY only, and aren't REALLY APR's anyway) you can have it escalated to try to pursuade the appropriate division to put out a patch. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Peter Craine + "Home is where you wear your hat." Hewlett-Packard + Chelmsford Response Center + *I* don't want my opinions. Why would HP?