[comp.sys.apollo] Need info on Intelligent Light products

hj412fr@duc220.uni-duisburg.de (Martin Anantharaman) (12/06/90)

Could someone report on his experience with the Intelligent Light, Inc.
products (3DV/ CADimator/Framestore-32/Paint/IVIEW/IVIEW Dore/VIDEOTOOLS)?

Apart from the general impression you may have got, I am particularly
interested in the following aspects:

1) How do the 3DV/IVIEW/Dore suite compare to the official Apollo
GMR3D/PHIGS products (with which we are not altogether happy) in
ease-of-use and performance,

2) How easy is it to go from some data-description (generated by hand
or extracted from a CAD package) to a ray-traced animation on VIDEO with
the various modules?

3) Does someone know of a European contact, or have a FAX address of
the company?

4) Are there other products (third-party or official) for this kind of
visualization application (available now or in the near future) that I
should be looking at?

Thanks in advance,

Martin Anantharaman

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lipman@dtrc.dt.navy.mil (Lipman) (12/12/90)

I have some experience in using Intelligent Light products.
Our application was visualizing finite element analysis
results that were computed on a Cray.  The results were
downloaded to the Apollo, converted to IL files and frames
were rendered to dump to videotape.

The products we were using was call GVIEW which I think is
now call 3DV.  In any case based on my experience (which was
about 2-3 years ago) and having talked to other more recent
IL users, it is not well suited for scientific visualization.
It might be OK for doing what I call 'Hollywood type' animations.
The kind of stuff you see on TV.  It is not user-friendly and
is not good for an engineer or student with limited time.

Specifically, IL's basic data format is too restrictive and
requires the user to do a lot of processing to get the data
into IL's format.  The product I used was absolutely not
user-friendly, not fast, and not very interactive. I suspect
the current animation product is a little better. I saw it at
SIGGRAPH this year but the data format is still the same.

It took at least 1-2 weeks to interface NASTRAN finite element
analysis results to IL's data format.  It then took another 1-2
weeks to setup the animation.  The animation was of a structure
vibrating with color contours changing as the structure vibrated
and was rotated.  We eventually made a 90 second videotape of
the vibrations.

We also have IL's Dore, however we never have used it.
We have never had the opportunity to use it or compare it with
GMR3D or PHIGS.

IL was very accomidating to us.  They gave us training for
3 people for a week, let us use the software for several months,
dumped all the rendered frames to videotape, all at no cost.
We still have not bought anything from them.

I think they have a distributor in Milan, Italy.  Their US
phone number is 201-794-7550.

There is another product that we use call FOTO from a company
name Cognivision.  FOTO is a highly interactive, use-friendly,
and easy to interface to data visualization package.  I interfaced
our NASTRAN finite element analysis results in less than a day and
created animations in about half an hour. It is great to visualize
finite element analysis results.  Their data format is basically
polygonal.  We are very happy with the package.

For more info about FOTO:

Cognivision, Inc.
319 Littleton Road, Suite 100
Westford, MA 01886
(508)-392-0881, FAX (508)-392-0882

There are only 2 employees, Mark Smith and Olin Lathrop.  Olin was
one of the developers of the DN10K.

Hope this is helpful,

Bob Lipman

Disclaimer: These are my opinions and nobody else's.