[comp.sys.apollo] Domain on HP700, etc.

Osman_Ahmad_at_CTC@RELAY.PROTEON.COM (04/05/91)

          This discussion on running Domain on the new HP boxes is a bit
          of Deja Vu for me.  About seven or eight years ago, all of the
          same concerns and same outrage was heard from various users of
          Digital Equipment Corporation's DECSystem-20 user base when DEC
          announced that they will discontinue development efforts on the
          promised high-end Jupiter system.

          There were a lot of things that were remarkable about the
          DEC-20, especially the TOPS-20 operating system.  The users
          loved it and diehards distributed VAX-Buster T-shirts at
          annual DECUS meetings. But, the DEC-20 did not fit DEC's vision
          despite the fact that their largest customers were very angry
          about the decision and DEC lost a lot of business to Big Blue. 
          Today, DECsystems and TOPS-20 are of historical interest only.

          I am afraid that in a few years Domain OS will go the same way.
          At this point, it is very important for ADUS or this newsgroup
          to collect our thoughts about the most important elements of
          Domain/OS and present them to HP and OSF so that they can be
          incorporated in a future open system.

          HP should form a group within HP/Apollo to assist current Domain
          users to migrate to OSF, provide tools, fill in the gaps, and
          serve as an internal voice for Domain users within HP. DCE is
          not enough.

          ADUS will have to regroup somewhat to address the needs of this
          constituency.  There MUST be some way to prioritize needs and
          feed this to HP and get some hard commitments from them.  I
          think we have to accept the demise of Domain OS and look to the
          future.

          I final sad note: Much of what was good about TOPS-20 has been
          forgotten, perhaps to reemerge as an innovation ten years from
          hence.  Emacs-style command recognition, a superb class
          scheduler, a lean and mean OS that could support 50 users on 4mB
          of memory, a built in archiving system, a batch-processing
          system, project based accounting, a bullet-proof file system,
          and so on.  We owe it to ourselves to preserve what is good
          about Domain.

          /Osman

          Osman_Ahmad_at_CTC@relay.proteon.com