eystein@hannibal.hsn.no (Eystein Mathisen) (04/18/91)
EPOCH under Apollo/Domain SR10.2 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Could somebody tell me the basic features of epoch? As far as I know it is a window-based, emacs-like editor (I may be wrong). Some questions to guide your answers are: * Does it run under X on Apollo/Domain SR10.2 OS ? * How much RAM is required to have a reasonable response ? * How many Mbytes of disk-space is required to install it ? * Is it an editor that can serve as a programming-environment in a 1st year course in programming ? * Is it easy to learn ? * Where can I get it (i.e. is it ftp-able or do I have to purchase it) ? etc. Thanks. Eystein Mathisen, Nordland College, Norway.
rees@dabo.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees) (04/19/91)
In article <1991Apr18.081840.14744@mack.uit.no>, eystein@hannibal.hsn.no (Eystein Mathisen) writes:
Could somebody tell me the basic features of epoch? As far as I know it is
a window-based, emacs-like editor (I may be wrong).
I broke your 170 column question into two lines; not all of us have such a
huge screen!
It isn't just emacs-like, it is emacs, based on Gnu emacs. It's a multi X
window emacs, with the minibuffer occupying a separate window. It's very
nice, I use it quite a bit.
* Does it run under X on Apollo/Domain SR10.2 OS ?
It doesn't use widgets, it uses the toolkit directly, and works with r3. It
should also work with r4 but I haven't tried this (r4 is upwardly compatible
at the toolkit level, but not at the widget level). I've run it at both
sr10.2 and sr10.3.
* How much RAM is required to have a reasonable response ?
As much as you can afford. At least 12 Mb. Maybe less if you only use X,
and not the DM.
* How many Mbytes of disk-space is required to install it ?
I'm not sure -- maybe about 15 Mb to build it, but considerably less to run
it, maybe 5 Mb. The executable is 1 Mb, info is 1 Mb, man is 1.4, lisp is
about 4, source is 4.
* Is it easy to learn ?
Very easy if you already know emacs.
* Where can I get it (i.e. is it ftp-able or do I have to
purchase it) ?
Epoch is free. Get the file "epoch-patches.tar.Z" by anonymous ftp from
dabo.citi.umich.edu. It contains info on acquiring epoch and some patches
you'll want to run it on your Apollo. This is for epoch 3.2, I don't know
it there is a more recent one. From the epoch blurb:
Epoch is a modified version of GNU Emacs 18.55 with several major enhancements:
o Multiple X-Window support
o Marked and Attributed regions of text
o Support for multiple fonts (fixed size), underlining, and
stipple patterns.
o Asynchronous communication with other X-Clients (usually the
window manager)
o Mouse-dragging with highlighting to support mouse-based cut-and-
paste.
o Access to raw X-Window objectsHannu.Martikka@lut.fi (Hannu Martikka) (04/19/91)
>>>>> On 18 Apr 91 08:18:40 GMT, eystein@hannibal.hsn.no (Eystein >>>>> Mathisen) said: Eystein> EPOCH under Apollo/Domain SR10.2 Eystein> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Eystein> * Does it run under X on Apollo/Domain SR10.2 OS ? Yes.There are apollo patches in nic.funet.fi Epoch is gnu emacs in X. Eystein> * How much RAM is required to have a reasonable response ? Emacs works quite well and we have 8/16MB apollos here. Eystein> * How many Mbytes of disk-space is required to install it ? It depends will you keep the sources or are you satisfied with binaries/lisp. It's about same size as emacs (about 30MB). Eystein> * Is it an editor that can serve as a programming-environment Eystein> in a 1st year course in programming ? Eystein> * Is it easy to learn ? Easy to learn? There are lot's of things/features to learn but it is not really difficult to learn them. I think that you should definetly learn to use emacs/epoch. Eystein> * Where can I get it (i.e. is it ftp-able or do I have to Eystein> purchase it) ? ftp nic.funet.fi -- Regards from Goodi ______________________________________________________________________________ Internet: Hannu.Martikka@lut.fi / \ Bitnet : GOODGULF@FINFILES // \\ \-\-\-\-\-\-\ oh5lhh Hannu Martikka, Punkkerikatu /// \\\ | on 70cm 7C 36, 53850 Lappeenranta,SF /// | \\\______________|_________________________ Tel. 953-251446 | :) Lappeenranta University Of Technology | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------