volf@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (frank volf) (06/10/91)
Hi there,
We have used sendmail 5.61 for some time on our SR10.2/SR10.3 nodes
without any significant problems.
Last week we decided that sendmail 5.65 would be nice on our nodes
so we installed it.
We took a copy of sendmail (sendmail.5.65apo.tar.Z) from master.uio.no and
installed the Apollo binary which was in the tarfile.
Unfortunately this sendmail this not work. Here is session that shows
our problems:
eba{volf}[//ebg/users/volf] 1 > mail volf
Subject: test
this is a test
*** EOF ***
EOT
volf... Connecting to (local)...
mail: mail: can't find mail group
volf... Sent
eba{volf}[//ebg/users/volf] 2 > mail maxad
Subject: another test
this is test 2
*** EOF ***
EOT
/usr/user/maxad/.forward: line 1: maxad... forwarding to volf@eb.ele.tue.nl
volf@eb.ele.tue.nl... Connecting to (local)...
rgyc_$pgo_get_projlist: No such file or directory
mail: mail: can't find mail group
volf@eb.ele.tue.nl... Sent
Needless to say: both mails do NOT arrive at their destination. If we change
back to sendmail 5.61 everything works fine again.
Has anyone seen this problem before????
P.s.: we didn't compile the source ourselves. Could this be the problem????
Thanx, Frank
Frank Volf (volf@eb.ele.tue.nl)
Eindhoven University of Technology
Digital Systems Group, Room EH10.16
P.O. 513, 5600 MB Eindhoven, The Netherlandsianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle) (06/11/91)
volf@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (frank volf) writes: >We took a copy of sendmail (sendmail.5.65apo.tar.Z) from master.uio.no and >installed the Apollo binary which was in the tarfile. This is the sendmail I put up for anon ftp ~ 2 weeks ago which is shadowed by master.uio.no. >Unfortunately this sendmail this not work. Here is session that shows >our problems: >eba{volf}[//ebg/users/volf] 1 > mail volf >Subject: test >this is a test >*** EOF *** >EOT >volf... Connecting to (local)... >mail: mail: can't find mail group >volf... Sent >eba{volf}[//ebg/users/volf] 2 > mail maxad >Subject: another test >this is test 2 >*** EOF *** >EOT >/usr/user/maxad/.forward: line 1: maxad... forwarding to volf@eb.ele.tue.nl >volf@eb.ele.tue.nl... Connecting to (local)... >rgyc_$pgo_get_projlist: No such file or directory >mail: mail: can't find mail group >volf@eb.ele.tue.nl... Sent >Needless to say: both mails do NOT arrive at their destination. If we change >back to sendmail 5.61 everything works fine again. >Has anyone seen this problem before???? No, several people have been using this without a problem so far. To elaborate further, this version of sendmail is the sendmail-5.65b+IDA-1.4.3 version supported at UIUC by Paul Pomes and Neil Rickert. I built it under BSD, sr10.3 and cc6.7. One possible thing to look at is what "mail" program you are using. If it is /bin/mail then try using the Berkley mail program found in /usr/ucb/mail. Also, does the "mail" group exist in your /etc/group file ?? /usr/spool/mail should then have a group ownership of "mail". ian >P.s.: we didn't compile the source ourselves. Could this be the problem???? Can't hurt, but this really shouldn't be necessary. :-) ian -- Ian Hoyle /\/\ Image Processing & Data Analysis Group / / /\ BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories / / / \ 245 Wellington Rd, Mulgrave, 3170 / / / /\ \ AUSTRALIA \ \/ / / / \ / / / Phone : +61-3-560-7066 \/\/\/ FAX : +61-3-561-6709 E-mail : ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au
paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO) (06/12/91)
volf@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (frank volf) writes: >Last week we decided that sendmail 5.65 would be nice on our nodes >so we installed it. >We took a copy of sendmail (sendmail.5.65apo.tar.Z) from master.uio.no and >installed the Apollo binary which was in the tarfile. >Unfortunately this sendmail this not work. Here is session that shows >our problems: > > .... >mail: mail: can't find mail group This problem is common to all the Apollo machines I have installed the 5.65b (and 5.65c now in beta-test) IDA sendmail on. My conclusion is that there is some Apollo-specific initialization that sendmail must do before exec()ing /bin/mail for local delivery. My "fix" has been to install the binmail program that comes in the sendmail distribution in place of /bin/mail. This works, however it then becomes yet another program that must be re-installed by hand after an upgrade. It also defeats my design goal of making IDA sendmail a drop-in replacement. Any suggestions for a better fix are welcome. Hints from HP/Apollo would not be unappreciated either. /pbp -- Paul Pomes, Computing Services Office University of Illinois - Urbana Email to Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu
dla@chemsh.uucp (Doug Acker) (06/13/91)
In article <1991Jun12.144147.4093@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO) writes: |> volf@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (frank volf) writes: |> |> >Last week we decided that sendmail 5.65 would be nice on our nodes |> >so we installed it. |> >We took a copy of sendmail (sendmail.5.65apo.tar.Z) from master.uio.no and |> >installed the Apollo binary which was in the tarfile. |> >Unfortunately this sendmail this not work. Here is session that shows |> >our problems: |> > |> > .... |> >mail: mail: can't find mail group |> |> This problem is common to all the Apollo machines I have installed the 5.65b |> (and 5.65c now in beta-test) IDA sendmail on. My conclusion is that there is |> some Apollo-specific initialization that sendmail must do before exec()ing |> /bin/mail for local delivery. My "fix" has been to install the binmail program |> that comes in the sendmail distribution in place of /bin/mail. This works, |> however it then becomes yet another program that must be re-installed by hand |> after an upgrade. It also defeats my design goal of making IDA sendmail a |> drop-in replacement. |> |> Any suggestions for a better fix are welcome. Hints from HP/Apollo would not |> be unappreciated either. |> |> /pbp |> -- |> Paul Pomes, Computing Services Office |> University of Illinois - Urbana |> Email to Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu -- Just put this in your excludes list in your Authorze Area and it won't be overwritten. Douglas L. Acker ChemShare Corporation DesignMaster Division dla@chemsh.UUCP 713-267-5602
volf@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (frank volf) (06/13/91)
The last two days I have got some replies on my first posting on this subject, however none of the suggested solutions have worked yet! *) First, a number of people suggested that on our site, the mail group didn't exist. This is not true, the group mail exists ( in fact it is a reserved group which can't be changed). The group has its usual gid of 6. *) Second, I was told that the processes invoked by sendmail may not have write permission to /usr/spool/mail and the files in this directory. Both the file and the directory have write permission for the group mail on our system. *) I was also told that the the default gid for processes invoked by sendmail (as specified in sendmail.cf) should be 6 (group mail). On our site this was a 1 (group daemon). I changed this but it didn't help (sendmail 5.61 didn't care about a group of 1, is this changed in sendmail 5.65???????). I also tried forcing sendmail and /bin/mail to be of group mail, by making these files sgid to mail (of course they are also suid to root). This didn't work either. Other suggestions anyone????? Frank Volf (volf@eb.ele.tue.nl) Eindhoven University of Technology Digital Systems Group, Room EH10.16 P.O. 513, 5600 MB Eindhoven, The Netherlands
krause@mitre.org (Mark Krause) (06/14/91)
In article <1215@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl>, volf@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (frank volf) writes: > The last two days I have got some replies on my first posting on this subject, > however none of the suggested solutions have worked yet! > To get sendmail 5.65 to work correctly on the Apollo you must replace /bin/mail with the binmail program in the sendmail distribution. -- Mark A. Krause mkrause@mitre.org The MITRE Corporation (703)883-7642 (Voice) 7525 Colshire Drive (703)883-6308 (Fax) McLean, VA 22102