car@trux.UUCP (Chris Rende) (07/22/89)
I have a Nixdorf Targon/35-M50 running TOS.3.2 which I'm told is
a Pyramid 9810 running OSX 4.0. My background is with System V Release 2.
Here is a list of questions and observations which I've been gathering
over the last month:
If anyone has answers to any of the following or can shed any light on
them, please let me know.
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Nixdorf tells me that TOS.3.3 will be out soon (which is OSX 4.4).
What are the major differences/bug fixes/enhancements/etc... between
OSX 4.0 and OSX 4.4 (or TOS.3.2 and TOS.3.3).
Are there any plans to move up to System V Release 3?
What affect does dk_enable=1 have on performance when enabled?
(/usr/sys/conf/param.c)
I suppose that "dkstat -a" won't be completly usefull with dk_enable=0...
I've noticed that the following man pages are munged: chmod.2, utmp.4, signal
Does anyone have un-munged ones?
What exactly is sendmail and what can it give me?
Currently, I use SMAIL and PATHALIAS and my System V mailer.
The machine comes with documentation which is System V based.
Is there any BSD documentation? (Aside from the man sheets).
Nixdorf tells me they have none. How about Pyramid?
When I run "mailx -s", mailx passes the -s to /bin/mail which doesn't
like the -s. What is wrong?
"mailx -s" worked OK on my previous System V box...
Our file systems mkfs'ed with 16K block sizes. I don't suppose this can
be changed without re-mkfs'ing and reloading... can it? I didn't think so. :-(
(I'd like to change it to 2K).
How does the ucb UUCP package compare to the att UUCP package?
How does the ucb INIT package compare to the att INIT package?
I had to "chown uucp /usr/lib/uucp" to get it to work.
My TOS release (3.2) is missing 99% of /usr/lib/terminfo/*. How/where can
I get the rest of what belongs there?
I can't get adb or sdb to work at all. I get some type of error message
about a table being the wrong or old format. dbx does seem to work.
I had trouble with expire when I installed it. The man sheet makes
reference to a command like "expire -e 999999 -E 999999 -r". When I run
this, I get floating exceptions because of the 999999. So, I use
9999 instead.
How is the AAU used by the system? Does a ld have to be done with a
special math library? Does anyone know if TDE makes use of the AAU?
In order to get shl to work I had to create a /dev/sxt directory and
"ln /dev/sxt000 /dev/sxt/000" and so on for 001, 002, 003, etc...
Here's an odd error message I recieved once while running ps:
"ps: error locating command name for pid 13216 from Thu Jul 13 14:07@ Q"
What does this message mean from du:
"du: warning - There are more than 1000 linked files"
I've gotten this message in places where there weren't 1000 link files around.
What is the "Commercial instuction set" board?
What is the "Address generation unit"?
I wrote a test program that just allocates large blocks of RAM. It seemed
to let me allocate an amount of memory that was limited by the amount of
RAM in the system. This program also seemed to have a "bad effect" on
performance.
- Does this machine use virtual memory? Seems not to since I was limited
by physical RAM size.
- Does this machine do paging of individual RAM pages? Or, is all of the
processes memory swapped in and out?
When I issue the command "ps" or "ps -f" I get memory faults. But, "ps -ef"
works.
"fuser" doesn't work.
"sar" reported an average of "-20647" for kchar/s.
I got the following output from dkstat:
(Note negative numbers)
iostat
name misc ops bcnt bl/io act ms/io kb/sec resp ms/io
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pdisk00 69 3895699 14456286 3.71 92586847 24 320 744252671 191
pdisk01 50 3291377 23778494 7.22 95919143 29 508 -1997499614 -607
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"I don't ever remember forgetting anything." - Chris Rendesteve@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Steve DeJarnett) (07/26/89)
In article <211@trux.UUCP> car@trux.UUCP (Chris Rende) writes: >Nixdorf tells me that TOS.3.3 will be out soon (which is OSX 4.4). >What are the major differences/bug fixes/enhancements/etc... between >OSX 4.0 and OSX 4.4 (or TOS.3.2 and TOS.3.3). 4.4 (I think) completes the System V side switch to System V Release 3 (dot something, I think, but I don't recall offhand). >Are there any plans to move up to System V Release 3? Done, if memory serves me correctly. >What exactly is sendmail and what can it give me? sendmail is the MTA (Mail Transfer Agent) from Berkeley. It's a fairly complex piece of software that allows mail routing based on a ruleset. If you're on the Internet, it's almost a must (although smail 3.1 is supposed to have an SMTP listener in it). >Currently, I use SMAIL and PATHALIAS and my System V mailer. You can continue to use either or both smail and pathalias (we use smail in addition to sendmail). A combination of sendmail and smail or pathalias gives a fairly full-featured mail delivery system. >The machine comes with documentation which is System V based. >Is there any BSD documentation? (Aside from the man sheets). >Nixdorf tells me they have none. How about Pyramid? Pyramid ships a full set of BSD docs. I don't know if Nixdorf does, but you should check with them. If not, you can order a full set of BSD docs from the Usenix Association (provided you're a member) for something like $60. >When I run "mailx -s", mailx passes the -s to /bin/mail which doesn't >like the -s. What is wrong? >"mailx -s" worked OK on my previous System V box... Use /usr/ucb/mail (or /usr/ucb/Mail). They work with the -s flag. I don't know that the System V versions will. >How does the ucb UUCP package compare to the att UUCP package? Depends on which you like. Some people argue that HoneyDanBer (BNU) UUCP is better than BSD UUCP. Others say the opposite. We run BSD, but not because of any religious beliefs. Mostly because it's just too much work to figure out what has to change (probably not much), since we do very little UUCP these days. >How does the ucb INIT package compare to the att INIT package? Again, user preference, mostly. We run the AT&T init/getty/login package simply to get password aging. If you don't want/need password aging, you can probably stick with the BSD stuff, but basically, you probably should go with what you're familiar with. >I can't get adb or sdb to work at all. I get some type of error message >about a table being the wrong or old format. dbx does seem to work. What universe?? dbx and adb both worked fine for us. They both definitely work in the BSD universe of 4.4. >In order to get shl to work I had to create a /dev/sxt directory and >"ln /dev/sxt000 /dev/sxt/000" and so on for 001, 002, 003, etc... It's there in 4.4 already. >Here's an odd error message I recieved once while running ps: >"ps: error locating command name for pid 13216 from Thu Jul 13 14:07@ Q" You probably ran ps as a process was exiting and it's U area was getting cleaned out. If it happens all the time, you might worry. If it happens once in a blue moon, I wouldn't. I see this happen on some other systems much more often (Celerity comes to mind as one). >What is the "Commercial instuction set" board? I'd venture a guess (WARNING: Only a guess) that this is the stuff necessary to support the instructions for COBOL that are in the Pyramid instruction set. >- Does this machine use virtual memory? Seems not to since I was limited > by physical RAM size. Yes. At least Pyramid's do. I doubt that Nixdorf would rip all of the VM stuff out. >- Does this machine do paging of individual RAM pages? Or, is all of the > processes memory swapped in and out? Demand paging and swapping. >"sar" reported an average of "-20647" for kchar/s. Many of the System V accounting programs were fixed in 4.4. >Christopher A. Rende Central Cartage (Nixdorf/Pyramid/SysV/BSD4.3) I hope some of that helps. I suspect Pyramid people might have more light to shed on some of the issues you raised. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Steve DeJarnett | Smart Mailers -> steve@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU | | Computer Systems Lab | Dumb Mailers -> ..!ucbvax!voder!polyslo!steve | | Cal Poly State Univ. |------------------------------------------------| | San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 | BITNET = Because Idiots Type NETwork | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
car@trux.UUCP (Chris Rende) (08/02/89)
In article <12833@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU>, steve@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Steve DeJarnett) writes: > In article <211@trux.UUCP> car@trux.UUCP (Chris Rende) writes: > > > When I run "mailx -s", mailx passes the -s to /bin/mail which doesn't > > like the -s. What is wrong? > Use /usr/ucb/mail (or /usr/ucb/Mail). They work with the -s flag. > I don't know that the System V versions will. I'm running smail2.5 in the System V environment. I tried /usr/ucb/mail and couldn't get it to work in the System V environment. I'm considering altering smail so that it absorbs the -s argument instead of passing it to rmail. > > How does the ucb UUCP package compare to the att UUCP package? > Depends on which you like. Some people argue that HoneyDanBer (BNU) > UUCP is better than BSD UUCP. The UUCP I have is Release 2 UUCP, not HDB - My release must be a bit behind. :-) > > I can't get adb or sdb to work at all. I get some type of error message > > about a table being the wrong or old format. dbx does seem to work. > What universe?? dbx and adb both worked fine for us. They both > definitely work in the BSD universe of 4.4. System V universe. car. -- Christopher A. Rende Central Cartage (Nixdorf/Pyramid/SysV/BSD4.3) uunet!edsews!rphroy!trux!car Multics,DTSS,Unix,Shortwave,Scanners,StarTrek ...!sharkey!rphroy!trux!car Minix,PC/XT,Mac+,TRS-80 Model I: Buy Sell Trade "I don't ever remember forgetting anything." - Chris Rende