cfranz@logdis3.wr.aflc.af.mil (Franzkowiak) (12/21/90)
Where can I get an Ada compiler for the Pyramid MIS 4/2 running UNIX System V Version 3.0? Pyramid withdrew their Ada compiler from the market. They did not have enough buyers. Claus Franzkowiak (912) 926-1954 cfranz@wrdis01.af.mil cfranz@wrdis03.af.mil
csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (12/21/90)
>Pyramid withdrew their Ada compiler from the market. They did not have enough >buyers. True. It never seems to come up on RFPs any more, either. A shame that so many good people wasted so much effort on it, only to watch all interest die. Last I heard they got it to the point where it ran Dhrystone almost half as fast as Dhrystone on the C and Fortran compilers. OBLIGATORY SNIDE REMARK: I recall 10 years ago a highly esteemed colleague telling me that, "ten years from now, if you don't know Ada, you won't be able to find a job." I read a lot of trade press saying the same thing. Now people with equal education and experience are telling me that the OSI end-to-end services will inevitably replace TCP/IP, and for essentially all the same kind of reasons. ("It is a standard. The Government will require it." etc.) Any bets? :-) <csg>
wendyt@cs.washington.edu (Wendy Thrash) (12/22/90)
In article <138442@pyramid.pyramid.com> csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes: >True. It never seems to come up on RFPs any more, either. A shame that so many >good people wasted so much effort on it, only to watch all interest die. Last >I heard they got it to the point where it ran Dhrystone almost half as fast as >Dhrystone on the C and Fortran compilers. I believe that Carl was not being sarcastic here, though it's hard not to read his posting that way. Fact was that Pyramid did have good people, including at least one _very_ good one, hacking that damned compiler. I do not mourn its passing. No, I was not among those working on Ada. The joke in the compiler group was that we had to sacrifice at least one person a year to the Ada project (via firing), usually whoever happened to be the manager of the compiler group at the time. --- -Wendy T., remembering the good times at Pyramid
csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (12/25/90)
>>Last I heard they got it to the point where it ran Dhrystone almost half as >>fast as Dhrystone on the C and Fortran compilers. > >I believe that Carl was not being sarcastic here, though it's hard not >to read his posting that way. Sorry, I worded that horribly. I definitely was not being sarcastic. Anyone who is familiar with both ADA and the Dhrystone benchmark would appreciate that, given an architecture like the Pyramid's, an ADA compiler that can hit anywhere near half the Dhrystones of the C compiler is a major accomplishment. (For starters, Dhrystone is heavily tilted towards byte array manipulation. ADA has to do bounds checking on all that; C and FORTRAN do not.) >-Wendy T., remembering the good times at Pyramid You are welcome back any time. :-) <csg>