[comp.sys.pyramid] High Capacity Tape Drives

steve@lucifer.UUCP (Steve Goodwin) (05/22/91)

Due to conflicting advice, we would welcome opinions and experiences with
tape backup systems other than standard 9 track tape on Pyramids.
Specifically Exabyte drives, DAT drives and the 3480-based 'autochanger'
drive. All are supported by Pyramid in the UK but opinions - even within
Pyramid - vary. For example; 'Exabyte is slow ... unreliable ... cost
effective;  DAT will be good when proven ... long term unknown ... not yet
available; 3480 is slow ... old technology ... industry standard '
And so on..... :-)
Please respond by mail and I will summarise to the net.
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sean@coombs.anu.edu.au (Sean Batt) (05/24/91)

steve@lucifer.UUCP (Steve Goodwin) writes:

>Due to conflicting advice, we would welcome opinions and experiences
>with tape backup systems other than standard 9 track tape on
>Pyramids.

Good move Steve!

>Specifically Exabyte drives, DAT drives and the 3480-based
>'autochanger' drive.

We run a DAT drive "supported" by Pyramid in Australia. The
advertising blurb we were sent showed reasonable specs: 500MBytes per
hour, 40 second access to any file on the tape, greater reliability
than simmilar exabyte drives.

Well, those specific claims above turned out not to be true. LET ME
STATE HERE THAT THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL OPINION AND IN NO WAY REFLECTS
THE POSITION OF THE AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL UNIVERSITY.

We get no where near 500MBytes/s, probably close to 140MB/s; the
pertec interfasce does not support the fast scan mode of the physical
drive (grrrrrrrrrr!), and we get regular drive hangs based on (from
what I've heard) a dissagreement about who's standard is the right one
re some timing problems between the drive and the pyramid pertec
controler.

Mail me for more information. I'm due to go on leave in 5 minutes :-)

Sean
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steve@lucifer.UUCP (Steve Goodwin) (05/30/91)

Further to my recent message about high capacity tape drives on the
Pyramid, thanks to those who responded. Results were inconclusive :-)
Some have problems with Exabyte, some don't. The only thing agreed on was
Pyramids excessive price for most of these devices!

I believe I can buy a DAT drive + i/f + s/w + a SUN for less than Pyramids
cost of a DAT! I could then do all my backups over my ethernet. Anyone
point out any problems with this approach?
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|  Steve Goodwin                    { steve@uk.co.lucasauto.eg              |
|  Electronic Control Group,        { ..!ukc!lucifer!steve                  |
|  Lucas Powertrain Systems, Phoenix Way, Cirencester, Glos. GL7 1QG  U.K.  |
|  Tel: (44) 285 657981   Fax: (44) 285 658258   Twx: 43561                 |