[comp.sys.m68k.pc] HELP!

D-ROGERS@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA (05/04/87)

	Please pardon my taking net time for this, but i got inter-
ested in the 68000 due to the March and May articles in Radio
Electronics magazine on a builder's project.  But now that i've
taken a closer look at the system they are pushing, i find what
appear to be glaring deficiencies and obsolescence mixed in with 
the good stuff.  In searching around, i've found other 68K systems
advertised by Frank Hogg Laboratory and AAA Chicago Computer Center,
but they both sound like business systems.  I've also found an SBC
advertised by Hawthorne Technology, which runs K-OS ONE (?!), plus
features a very friendly price; and an educational board (4k SRAM,
LED display) from Quasitronics.
	On what are most of you running your CP/M-68K?
Same for OS/9-68K?  What magazines carry relevant articles?
THANX,		der
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jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) (05/06/87)

>In searching around, i've found other 68K systems
>advertised by Frank Hogg Laboratory and AAA Chicago Computer Center,
>but they both sound like business systems.

FHL heavily pushes Sculptor (alias Sage--the owners changed its name to
avoid confusion with Sage Computers at about the same time that Sage
changed its name to Stride :-), a database package, with their hardware,
to be sure, but I wouldn't consider their systems necessarily businessoid.
FHL sells hardware put out by Hazelwood Computers, I've heard of people
using Uniquads (the Hazelwood 68xxx boxes under Hazelwood's name) for MIDI.

>What magazines carry relevant articles?

The main one would have to be *68 Micro Journal*.  (Address on request;
I've posted it here before, but I don't have it handy.)

		JOR ge
vanyc

jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) (05/06/87)

Oops!  I forgot to answer a question:  what do I use OS-9/68K on?

I mostly use a Microboards Multibus-based system.  Currently it has a
68010.  (I don't know whether there's a 68020 board for it.)  Microboards
is a Japanese company.

		James Jones

D-ROGERS@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA.UUCP (05/07/87)

	It appears that i shot from the hip with my last question.
Now that i've had time to wade through the archive files, nearly
everything i asked was answered there.  My apologies for taking up
net space under those circumstances; and my great thanks for the 
info provided by Robert Heller, James Jones, Bob Larson and Jim
Omura.  Of course, as is too often the case, the answers generate
more questions:
	(1)  It appears that in a period of only 3 months, Bob
Larson started and then terminated a PD library of OS/9-68k.  I 
never saw a message of anyone else offering to pick it up.  Is
there a(n) (ARPA.)net accessible directory of same?  [no, my site
won't allow any "anonymous" accessible space.]
	(2)  Does anyone know if the back issues of DTACK GROUNDED
can still be purchased?  at the same address listed in 1985?
	(3)  I've seen the ad for Sculptor.  It is priced right in
there with dbase III+, is it anywhere near as good?
	(4)  I noticed a February 4 reference by James Jones to the
very system that got my attention on the 68K.  Is there anyone out
there that has actually seen/used one of these system boards
described in Radio Electronics (& "mc" magazine?)
	(5)  I vaguely remember seeing a 68K board offered, about a
year ago, in a DEC specific publication, that ran on the Q22 bus.
Is anyone familiar with this?  [I've looked for recent ads - no luck.
	(6)  I found references to the following, who (have) supplied
S-100 compatible CPU boards: Compupro/Viasyn, Cromemco, Digicomp, and
Ultrascience.  Indication was, compupro had dropped support of its
68K hardware.  Can anyone tell me if any of these are still active 
suppliers (and how to contact them)?

AGAIN, advTHANXance			]Dale


	"...of course my opinion differs from 'most everyone else!  If it
 were the same, i'd probably have to change it, lest i remain in error."
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mknox@NGP.UTEXAS.EDU.UUCP (05/21/87)

There are a lot of systems running CP/M-68K, by a LOT of vendors.
Unfortunately, this means no ONE vendor has a major commitment
to the system.

The TANDY (Radio Shack) line has a fair number of CP/M-68K
installations.  This is the Model-16, Model-6000, or the -II
or -12 with 68000 upgrade.  Nice thing about this system is
that you can run both CP/M-2.2 (or CP/M-Plus) and CP/M-68K
all intermixed.

SAGE (STRIDE?) and ERG all made CP/M-68K systems.  SAGE had
a multi-user version (ran multiple copies of the OS).  Motorola
has a VME-based version.

Then there are a lot of little single-board or add-in card
systems running it.  HSC and Peak come to mind.  Lots of
people have done their own, buying the generic version and
writing the BIOS (about as easy as a 2.2 BIOS).