INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU.UUCP (04/30/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Wednesday, 29 Apr 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 83 Today's Topics: LightspeedC help needed needed WARNING: What *NOT* to do when your disk crashes !!! APDA does deliver Re: Second screen buffer Re: AutoBlack and SE New Autoblack INIT New compilers from TML: Pascal, Modula-2 Help! Mangled Hard Disk SE-KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION Re: SCSI Documents/SCSI as Instrument Interface Extra Carriage Returns on LW ref: vol5/#'s 81 and 82 Re: Head park and Shutdown BALL AND STICK (2ND ATTEMPT) Mac Yacc new Randomizer INIT Newer SendPS Networking/Communications Educational Software recommendations? Word 3.x wish MacWrite 4.5/MS Word 3.0 problems Mac Word 3.01 Announcement Letter Quality Printers? Reading IBM disks Apple's Chinese word processor? MacEgypt? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1987 17:05 CDT From: PHYS300%UNLCDC3.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: LightspeedC help needed needed I am using LightSpeedC 2.01 and am having trouble with the Echo_to_Printer command. I am using standard C calls to printf and I want to echo this to the IMW. As I read the addendum to the manual all I have to do is something like this: Echo_to_Printer( 1 ); printf("blahblahblah"); Echo_to_Printer( 0 ); This seems to work occasionally and that's the frustrating part. The first time I run my project, it will print. If I turn around and run it again nothing gets printed! I imagine that I am doing something dumb, so please somebody tell me what it is. I have an assignment due soon and I need the hardcopy of my results. Thanks Glenn A. Sowell PHYS300@UNLCDC3.BITNET Dept. of Physics & Astronomy University of Nebraska Lincoln, NE 68588-0111 (402) 472-2790 ------------------------------ Date: Wed 29 Apr 87 15:59:53-CDT From: Werner Uhrig <CMP.WERNER@R20.UTEXAS.EDU> Subject: WARNING: What *NOT* to do when your disk crashes !!! during a visit yesterday to Les Herbst, author of the MacZAP recovery programs, to discuss a particularly screwed-up disk, he told me that he receives a lot of calls where people report that when they try to recover from a crash, they get a message: 0 FILES in 0 FOLDERS found and every time the reason is that they had executed either MACTOOLS or FEDIT+ and MOUNTed !!!! the disk. ****** DO NOT DO THIS ****** IT DESTROYS VALUABLE DATA NEEDED FOR RECOVERY **** also ALWAYS make a copy of the damaged disk FIRST and WRITE-PROTECT your damaged disk and perform all recovery attempts on the copy. why am I posting a message listing "the obvious", you ask? well, guess why... yes, by the time I got my hands on the disk some other "heroes" had tried to be helpful in recovering THE ONE AND ONLY MACHINE-READABLE COPY of a students dissertation ..... ...yes, I did recover most (with help from Les) but am unwilling to do this more than once per ice-age .... ...had the disk never been MOUNTed, MacZAP recovery would have been a breeze!! I understand a lot of people have been yelling in the ear of the authors of FEDIT and MACTOOLS about a lacking warning message .... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 87 09:50:11 DNT From: "Jakob Nielsen, Tech Univ of Denmark" <DATJN@NEUVM1> Subject: APDA does deliver Since some people have wondered whether you can get anything out of APDA (especially if you live outside the US), I can happily report that I just received MPW and MacApp from APDA (two months after the day I ordered them). My problem now is that I have a folder with 4.4 MegaBytes of MPW/MacApp files and 11 centimeters of manuals that I have to learn. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 01:16:29 edt From: stew%lhasa@hucsc.HARVARD.EDU Subject: Re: Second screen buffer Just a correction: The Macintosh SE does have a second screen buffer, although not a second sound buffer. However, Apple has noted repeatedly that the second screen buffer may not be present on future Macintoshes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 13:30 EST From: Tom Dowdy <CML5A9%IRISHMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: AutoBlack and SE Funny...I have an SE here and AutoBlack runs on it fine... Doesn't seem to like TOPS tho (Sometimes I get TWO clocks on the screen instead of one, but that's okay) I was under the impression that AutoBlack works by allocating a 22K segment on the system heap and rerouting the screenbits base address to this point, clearing the screen for display of the clock. I dont think it uses the alternate screen buffer. Tom Dowdy CML5A9@IRISHMVS.BITNET "They say there is strangeness to danger us, In our theaters and bookstore shelves. Those who know what's best for us, Must rise and save us from ourselves." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 15:52:57 CDT From: Jeff Myers <myers@unix.macc.wisc.edu> Subject: New Autoblack INIT Here is a new version of AutoBlack, the screen saver which is usually renamed as MacsBug. Comes complete with icon, and comes billed as being SE and MacII compatible. However, it still will not work with BigScreen on a Mac 512E. I would appreciate it if people with SE's and MacII's could try it out, verify that it does work, and so report to the digest. This came from the local User Group (MadMac) board, with no accompanying document, but it still works and looks the same as the version currently in the archives. Data fork of the file gives the author as Itty Bitty Software...anybody out there know who they are? Jeff Myers The views above may or may not University of Wisconsin-Madison reflect the views of any other University of Wisconsin Law School person or group at UW-Madison. ARPA: myers@vms.macc.wisc.edu UUCP: ..!{harvard,ucbvax,allegra,topaz,akgua,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!myers BitNet: MYERS at WISCMACC [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-AUTOBLACK-NEW.HQX the documentation for the previous version is probably still valid, [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-AUTOBLACK.DOCS remember that this is the utility you rename "macsbug" and drop into the system folder. After 5 minutes of idle time the Mac screen shifts into an alternate buffer displaying a randomly placed and moving clock, with no effect on output to the regular screen. This is the screen saver I use and highly recommend. DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 87 15:58:50 GMT From: jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Joel West) Subject: New compilers from TML: Pascal, Modula-2 I had a nice chat with Tom Leonard today of TML Systems. He has two compilers coming out "in about two weeks" for the Mac. His Modula-2 for MPW is done, awaiting final manuals. It supports the complete IM Volume IV, large memory model, with a separate DEFINITION MODULE for each manager. Of course it is 3rd Edition Wirth and has a TTY window for moving non-Mac programs. As of now, you have to buy MPW from another source. Release 2.5 of TML Pascal (he's given up 'MacLanguage' since everyone calls it TML Pascal) includes all the library interfaces for the SE and Mac II, as well as those new and extended managers (Script Manager, hierarchical menus, TextEdit with styles) that will be ROM-patched in System 4.1 for the Mac Plus owners. Incidentally, he noted that of his Pascal rivals, Borland was doing very well with Turbo, but Lightspeed Pascal wasn't actually that threatening a competitor. His former customers who bought LSP came back after they got tired of formatting and size limitations in the current release. His integrated environment (ala Turbo) Pascal for the Apple IIgs is due in a month or so, and this environment will be part of TML Pascal 3.0 for the Mac (date uncertain.) Joel West {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww (ihnp4!gould9!joel once I fix news) jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu if you must ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 11:54:53 EDT From: John Major <major@SPCA.BBN.COM> Subject: Help! Mangled Hard Disk My friend has a Mac XL (alias Lisa), running Macworks, and Sys. 3.2/Finder 5.3 (so he says - is that possible on an XL?). He was poking around with Fedit "3.21" on his hard disk, and thought that the choice "Validate (or was it Modify...) Tags" looked "interesting" (uh oh...), so he chose it -- after seeing it pile up "errors" and begin modifying his System and Finder files, he aborted with cmd-., and quit. Everything seemed to be ok at the desktop level, however, so he turned off the machine. Naturally, when he turned on again the next day, Macworks started ok, but then he got a sad mac icon, id = 0F0064. And also quite naturally, he has inadequate backup. He can boot the machine from the floppy, but the disk never mounts. Well, he's got religion now, and will always backup frequently in the future. But in the meantime, is there anything our collective wisdom can do to save his data? He has tried MacZap and Fedit, but neither will mount the hard disk. Is he lost? Presumably he will also be more careful about "interesting" commands in the future! John Major major@bbn-spca.ARPA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 87 17:36:16 SET From: Norbert Mueller <K360171@AEARN> Subject: SE-KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO CONFIGURE THE US-SYSTEM 4.0 TO WORK WITH THE GERMAN SE-KEYBOARD WHICH WERE IN VAIN I ADDRESS MYSELF TO THE NET. HOW CAN YOU CONFIGURE SYSTEM 4.0 FOR DIFFERENT KEYBOARDS?? LOCALIZER 2.0 DOES NOT DO IT. EXCHANGING RESOURCES (KCHR, KCAP, KMAP) WITH THE GERMAN SYSTEM 4.0D1 DOES NOT DO THE JOB. CAN ANYBODY HELP? PERHAPS IT IS IN IM VOL. V BUT WE DONT HAVE IT YET. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP IN ADVANCE NORBERT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 87 14:21:15 PDT From: mse%Phobos.Caltech.Edu@DEImos.Caltech.Edu (Martin Ewing) Subject: Re: SCSI Documents/SCSI as Instrument Interface Two questions concerning SCSI: 1) Does anyone have a source for the SCSI Interface Definition document? Inside Mac v IV refers to ANSC X3T9.2/82-2 draft proposal. What is the best way to obtain this? Are there other information sources, books, etc? 2) I am considering interfacing a large-ish digital system to the Mac using SCSI. Does anyone have experience with non-file-structured connections on SCSI? (War stories solicited.) Respond to me or the net, as you wish. Thanks for any help. Martin Ewing Caltech Radio Astronomy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1987 07:42 PDT From: PAAAAA7%CALSTATE.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: Extra Carriage Returns on LW Does anyone have a solution for whatever causes extra carriage returns using MacWrite 4.5 and a standard LW? (Not a LW Plus) We have a mixture of 512k and Mac+, and occasionally the LW will interject each page with two extra carriage returns that are not visable on the screen. Needless to say, formatting a neat page goes out the window. We all suspect that the LW is ignoring the header and using it's own. HELP! Rich McGee <PAAAAA7@CALSTATE.EDU> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 17:45:16 PDT From: digiorgi@Jpl-VLSI.ARPA Subject: ref: vol5/#'s 81 and 82 RE: Switcher etc I am running a 2Meg machine, apple hd20, 128K roms, system 4.0, finder 5.4. I was having a lot of trouble with things until I found a note mentioning that the boot blocks needed to be revised for the 4.0 system: it needs a bigger system heap. Apple posted a small program to DELPHI (called Boot Blocks I think) which wrote revised version #22 and 64K heap size on the HD20. Since I installed that, AND did the command-option thing on boot so the DeskTop file was completely rebuilt, I have had no (!) problems that I could trace to the System/Finder. You can accomplish the same change with FEDIT or any other disk block editor. Switcher v5.0(1?) works just fine now. RE: questions from Allan Doyle <adoyle@VAX.BBN.COM> Concerning Emacs for the Macintosh: The editor said that microemacs.hqx and uEmacs.hqx were in the archives. DON'T USE MICROEMACS AS IT CAUSED ENDLESS DESTRUCTION OF DIRECTORIES! However, UEmacs seems to be fairly stable and I am using it regularly now. Some items are incomplete, such as clipboard cut and paste, but DAs seem to function. The worst thing is that there is no way to print from within the program. I have found that the MockPrinter DA works fine and actually multitasks appropriately to a serial printer, or just dumps text REAL FAST to a LaserWriter. (also in archives under MockPackagePlus, i think) Text formatters (non WYSIWYG) I am not a real fan of these programs, i do enough coding for my tastes and like WYSIWYG letter/document preparation, but you have your pick of JustText, TeXtures, and MacTeX. TeXtures and MacTeX are great if you are a TeX person (particularly TeXtures), JustText is what Apple has been using for formatting their Users Group Connection pamphlets: it seems to work very well. Some general comments: MacWrite remains useful as its document formats are well known and easy to create. I hope those formats will remain the information transfer standard format: there are good translators available. I have become utterly exasperated with Word, in both its 1.05 and 3.0 incarnations. TOO MANY BUGS! However I have found that WriteNow for Macintosh handles in an elegant way most of my needs for a word processor, and that Ready,Set,Go!3 will handle more complex page layout very nicely (documents from 1 to 40 pages no sweat, as long as you did things in a 'reasonable' fashion; longer than that with some thought and care). It actualy has a very good, easy to use word processor/spell checker (tabs are strange, though). Any WYSIWYG program is a memory hog and having 2 Meg on my machine has helped enormously. Complex documents with lots of scaling, bitmaps, etc. take a long while to print with RSG. Misc. Nonsense Etc: I have found that the Big Screen INIT posted to SUMEX works GREAT on a 2Meg machine with a 128K Cache enabled when you are running Smalltalk-80 v0.3! It doesn't even slow down too much! Time to send my 5 bucks! Godfrey DiGiorgi digiorgi@jpl-vlsi April 27, 1987 'Yet Another Disclaimer' disclaimer: No connection to any payola emanating from publishers of the above mentioned programs implied. They want my money same as yours. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 14:03:20 PDT From: UWACDC.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Head park and Shutdown A while back I posted a question about how to park the heads of my SCSI hard drive and shutdown normally. I got two reponses, both agreeing that choosing shutdown after parking the heads will leave the heads NOT parked. One respondent noted that a head parking utility should perform a shutdown, then park the heads. I'd buy that -- literally. The other respondent, associated with Kamerman Labs, said that Kamerman's Cirrus drives for the Mac come bundled with an INIT resource that handles parking on shutdown. Sounds great; where do I send money for such software? Finally, I just today saw a posting on GEnie that seems to answer this question directly: a utility from SuperMac to park the heads of Data- frame Hard drives while correctly setting up the disk for Shutdown. This utility is called SuperPark and it claims to attempt to park all SCSI devices regardless of type. I cannot directly confirm this since the DAs are not accessible with SuperPark, but since the Seagate drives are used in so many hard disks it may be working. At any rate my desk top comes on much faster with this utility. I think that SuperMac intends this utility to be released into the public domain since it was posted to GEnie without a request for payment. [ unfortunately this person's message header got munched by some mailer out in net land, so I have no idea who it is from. Another oportunity to suggest that anyone posting items to INFO-MAC put their name and address in the message BODY, mail headers are completely unreliable. SuperPark is part of the SuperMac package already in the archives, archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-SUPERMAC-30.HQX DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 87 17:26:57 SET From: Norbert Mueller <K360171@AEARN> Subject: BALL AND STICK (2ND ATTEMPT) THE MODERATOR OF THIS NET INFORMED ME THAT... >>Several people reported an error un-binhexing the file. I checked >>and got the same error. (are you using BinHex 4.0?) >>Could you please resend me the file, maybe this time it will get >>through intact. ... IT WAS NOT MY FAULT NOR MY MAC'S. WE USE AN IBM PC AS INTERMEDIATE BETWEEN OUR MACS AND THE VM-CMS NETWORK MACHINE. THE ORIGINAL IBM-3270 FILE TRANSFER PROGRAM IS THE CULPRIT (ASCII-EBCDIC-CONVERSION)... NEVERTHELESS HERE THE HOPEFULLY CORRECT BINHEXED BALL_AND_STICK-DEMO NORBERT MUELLER [ so we try again, archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DEMO-BALL-AND-STICK.HQX DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 87 16:52 EDT From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN%slb-test.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET> Subject: Mac Yacc [ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ] Name: MAC YACC Date: 27-APR-1987 18:47 by CSTERRITT This is the Compiler-Compiler, YACC. It lets you build a parser from a BNF-like syntax. It produces C code, which can be compiled into the working parser. It has sparse documentation, you can get a much more detailed document from any unix hacker, or see the book "The Unix Programming Environment" by Kernighan & Pike. Written by Richard Frankel. Note: the program doesn't know about HFS, so make sure your input file is in the ROOT directory of an HFS volume or on an MFS volume. [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>YACC.HQX DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 87 16:28:48 PDT From: PUGH%CCC.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa Subject: new Randomizer INIT Here is the latest and greatest Randomizer INIT. I have added a feature that guarentees a different startup set every time and the capability to run Randomizer (by holding down the Command and Option keys while double-clicking it) so it will tell you what the set is for the next reboot. I have also made a few bug fixes, so it should be much more robust and less prone to crashes. The major problem seemed to be due to a misplaced end statement. Jon N L pugh@nmfecc.arpa M A L National Magnetic Fusion Energy Computer Center F T N Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory E L PO Box 5509 L-561 C Livermore, California 94550 C (415) 423-4239 [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>INIT-RANDOMIZER.HQX this version replaces the previous version in the archives. DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 87 08:52:03 pdt From: Bob Brown <rlb@riacs.edu> Subject: Newer SendPS Here is version 1.21 of Adobe's SendPS, newer than the version posted a few days ago. It was distributed with Illustrator 1.1. Bob [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-SENDPS-121.HQX this version replaces version 1.1 DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 87 01:21:18 ADT From: SHQ@UNBMVS1 Subject: Networking/Communications We have 16 Macintoshes in our faculty and would like to explore various options in networking our appletalk network to other networks. There exist, I believe several products that would allow the appletalk network to be connected to the IBM mainframe (IBM 3090) or ethernet. Oue problem is that there is a local area network setup within the university campus and with a SYTEX protocal convertor, we can obtain an RS232C output from the LAN. Now, does anyone know of any hardware/software that would allow us to connect an RS232C port to our appletalk network and communicate through that port via any of the Macs on the appletalk network. Has anyone found a way of connecting an addressable RS232 port on the appletalk network?. This, to me seems to be a common problem. I have yet to see it mentioned on the info-mac network. All suggestions are welcome. Please reply directly to me and I will summarize on info-mac network. See Hean Quek (SHQ@UNBMVS1.BITNET) Geodetic Research Lab, Department of Surveying Engineering, University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, N.B. CANADA, ------------------------------ Date: 29 Apr 87 18:24:55 PST From: oxy!playa@csvax.caltech.edu (Javier Villalobos) Subject: Educational Software recommendations? As the Occidental MUG president I wanted to find out what is going on around campuses in other schools across the nation. Next week, Apple computer will be visiting Occidental College to try to persuade the most conservative computer committee to buy Macintoshes. The task will be VERY hard because we already have purchased a large amount of IBM pcs most of which the faculty of this liberal arts college don't know how to use. What I am looking for - and I don't know if you can do it - is for you to send me a list of the top software for educational use that is inside your libraries. I am looking for programs in both the sciences and the humanities like statistics programs, prose analyzers, Molecular editors, that would impress faculty and students. I would like to know if it is possible to actually send me via the network perhaps 2 or 3 of the best for our demo next week (may 7). If you can only send a list that is ok too. Sincerely, Javier Villalobos Occidental College, Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 14:00:55 PDT From: UWACDC.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu ; Mon, 27 Apr 87 15:39:02 CDT Subject: Word 3.x wish Although I have been using Word 3.0 for a couple of months without encountering the bombs described by others, there is one feature I would like to see added to the next release: There should be options for the positioning of text in the same line as graphics; not just on the bottom or at a fixed point distance from the bottom (using superscript), but automatically centered on the line or at the top of the line adjacent to graphics. This feature would be particularly useful for correctly positioning equation numbers next to equations pasted in from one of the WYSIWYG equation editors. Stuart Strand College of Forest Resources, University of Washington <A0799@UWACDC.BITNET> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 87 15:30 EST From: <EWING@TRINCC.BITNET> (The Byte Busters) Subject: MacWrite 4.5/MS Word 3.0 problems I had an interesting time rescuing a term paper written in MacWrite 4.5 that I'd like to share with the rest of you and fish for comments from the masses. The 19-page term paper file submitted to me by the frantic senior caused MacWrite, upon opening of the file, of its menu bar to blink wildly (as well as the cursor, itself locked in the "watch" mode), completely locking up any action of the computer. The interrupt switch did work and I was able to get into TMON, but alot of good that did me. So I pulled out MS Word 3.0, brand new but apparently riddled with bugs itself. Word 3.0 was able to read the file properly (hooray!), but when I asked it to save the paper back to the MacWrite format, it created a file that was 11K larger than the original, and if MacWrite tried to open it, it would only lock up into the twilight zone, not even bringing up a window. Now then, has anyone ever experienced this MacWrite "blinking menu" problem before? Has anyone noticed MS Word's inability to save under a proper MacWrite format (this answer is probably yes)? Does anyone know anyway around these errors, or possibly fixes, or avoidances? Any comments would be greatly appreciated, and please respond to my account directly. Richard Ewing Apple Student Consultant Trinity College EWING@TRINCC.Bitnet (or) EWING@YALEVM.Bitnet Disclaimer: It's near final exams, so I disclaim all my future grades in all my subjects. Ahhhhh......that's better. ------------------------------ Date: Tue Apr 28 10:55:48 1987 From: microsof!donco@beaver.cs.washington.edu Subject: Mac Word 3.01 Announcement Macintosh Word 3.01 Announced At the AppleWorld Conference in early March, Microsoft announced that a maintenance release of Microsoft Word for the Macintosh would be needed for compatibility with the Macintosh II computer. That release is now scheduled to be available by the end of June when we expect that the Macintosh II will be shipping in quantity. Version 3.01 enhancements will include improved documentation, namestamping, and unlimited fonts. In addition, our testing group has found some problems which have also been reported to us by users since we released Microsoft Word Version 3.0 for the Macintosh. We want you to know that this release for the Mac II will correct all known problems in Microsoft Word. This update will be sent at no charge to all registered users of Microsoft Word Version 3.0 for the Macintosh. Users of Version 1.0 or 1.05 can continue to upgrade for $99. A special offer is available for those who have purchased Version 1.05 since October 1, 1986; they can upgrade for $50. For more upgrade information please call 1-800-426-9400 (in Washington State and Alaska call 206-882-8088). A special thank you goes out to all individuals who took the time to contact Microsoft with problems found in Microsoft Word for the Macintosh. [ please note the return address on this message and add whatever appropriate disclamer you wish. DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 19:14 EST From: <MSG@CUNYVMS1.BITNET> Subject: Letter Quality Printers? I'm looking for the least expensive letter quality printer to use with a 512K Mac -- 10 or 12 point -- daisy wheel or similar. Also a review of their performance or any other information. Thanks Send mail to me directly and I will abstract replies and post them on the network. Margaret Serrato BITNET:MSG@CUNYVMS1 INTERNET:msg%cunyvms1.BITNET@wiscvm.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 87 12:30:07 PDT From: UWACDC.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: Reading IBM disks There was a passing reference on the IBMPC Digest of a software product for the Mac that would allow reading IBM-formatted 3.5 inch disks (720K) in the Mac's drive. Does anyone know if this is a real thing? Also, why do the 5.25 inch drives for the Mac (from Abatron, for one) cost so much ($600)? A drive to read and write in PC format that cost <$300 would have a sizable market among those of us who need to exchange data with PCs. It can be very hard to convince a group of IBMers to net at $300+ per box, much less getting them to go for Appletalk. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 1987 20:09:37 EDT Subject: Apple's Chinese word processor? From: T. Chang <CHANGT@A.ISI.EDU> I just read a news paper from Taiwan, and know that Apple Company has signed contract with Kuo-Chau Software Company - the company that developed Kuo-Chau HanDisk which is very popular Chinese word processor in Taiwan. Apple is not going to use the Kuo-Chau HanDisk, but to use the Chinese fonts developed by Kuo-Chau. Because, after comparing more than 40 different Chinese word processors available, Apple agreed that the fonts from Kuo-Chau is the most elegant, the best. To those of you who are looking forward an Apple's Chinese word processor, I hope this tells you something. To Chang <changt@A.ISI.EDU> SMC 1538 Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA 93943 ------------------------------ Date: 26th Apr, 1987 From: Bruce A. Tankleff <MCSBAT@NMSUVM1.BITNET> Subject: MacEgypt? A friend's father recently accepted a job offer to work in Egypt. He is considering purchasing a Mac Plus w/ an ImageWriter II to take them with him, but is unsure on a few points. In particular: 1. What, if any, changes need to be made to the Mac itself? Are any changes necessary for the power there, etc? 2. What is the availability of service there? He will be fairly close to Cairo... I would imagine there's something there, but Apple couldn't tell me for sure. 3. What about the availability of software in general, and supplies in particular? We can mail him disks, ribbons, etc. from the states - but it's something to be avoided if possible. Hopefully, either a net subscriber in Egypt is reading their mail... If not, can someone with experience help, or at least point me in the right direction? Apple couldn't help much... Please reply here or to the below node address. Thanks in advance! Bruce A. Tankleff <MCSBAT@NMSUVM1.BITNET> New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM Std Disclaimer: I'm not admitting to this. Ever. Uh-uh. Nope... ------------------------------ End of INFO-MAC Digest **********************