SHULMAN@sdr.slb.COM (Jeffrey Shulman) (05/19/87)
Delphi Mac Digest Tuesday, May 19, 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 28 Today's Topics: RE: Laser Prep 4.0 patch/Miniwriter re: 3 Questions & 1 Flame LISA Help (3 messages) Shadowgate more stack (2 messages) IW spool files (2 messages) Downloadable fonts, Altsys (4 messages) Tiler bug for 4.1 users (3 messages) Laser Spoolers (2 messages) Kanji Printer Interface "Print Jack" Excel 1.04 4.1 Menu Manager HyperCharger 020 (9 messages) RE: 68020 upgrades for SE ADDISON WESLEY Draw 30 and New System! swapping SE floppy and hard disks LISA-HELP? XL (2 messages) Centram TOPS BBS Excel 1.04: Yay! (2 messages) Radius 68020 board (3 messages) Mac II Trinitrons (2 messages) Desktop bus mice (9 messages) 68020 upgrades for SE File/Disk Bug Fixes: Copy II 6.5 re: MacSmalltalk 0.4 Toshiba 24 pin printer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DDUNHAM Subject: RE: Laser Prep 4.0 patch/Miniwriter (Re: Msg 19771) Date: 12-MAY 04:08 User Supported Software Oops, I didn't proofread; there isn't a space. Also, it helps to have a POST TMPL in your copy of ResEdit. I believe I created mine by duplicating the one for STR# and renaming it. The correct PostScript should be {}mark T /Helvetica /|______Helvetica 0 rf 10 fz 0 fs 2 F /|______Helvetica fnt (and I think the {} is necessary; I got that by capturing PostScript output with pretzel-F). ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: 3 Questions & 1 Flame (Re: Msg 19773) Date: 12-MAY 04:08 Network Digests >From: UWACDC.BITNET >Subject: 3 Questions & 1 Flame I'm told LoDOWN's new address and phone is 10 Victor Square, Suite #200, Scotts Valley, CA 95066, 408/95066. Doesn't LsP have the nifty segmenting feature of LsC? It's never been a problem (unless you write your code in huge files rather than splitting it up into manageable pieces). ------------------------------ From: FMBBS Subject: LISA Help Date: 12-MAY 18:07 Hardware & Peripherals I have been given an original LISA with a 10 MEG HD in good condition along with the LISA software. Before I try to unload it, can someone help me and give me what information is available to convert it to a "KIND OF MAC"? I realize that I will have to find a copy of MACWORKS somewhere(any help?) but I also understand that there may be a KIT with new ROMS and other hardware that can be purchased. Does anyone have any knowledge in this area? Thanks in advance. Bill Taylor FMBBS 803-548-0900 ------------------------------ From: MACLAIRD Subject: RE: LISA Help (Re: Msg 19828) Date: 13-MAY 05:27 Hardware & Peripherals The first advice is to look in any copy of Macazine. Their "Orphan Support" column has been a regular feature. The NetWorkers ((415) 454-7607) used to advertise, but now we find their principals writing the column! (a turnabout in some ways from the Macazine's contributor Jerry Daniels, who openly confesses to writing the articles in order to repay his advertising bill!) Dafax, in New York, also advertising in the same magazine, is at (orders and information (800-323-1751) (Technical & Customer Support (718-746-8220) or in Pennsylvania call (215) 574-0357. I have no connection with any of them. I would advise you to get a memory board if you don't have a megabyte already. I have an extra board (as do most of the folks who have a Lisa) but want a little more than the guy across town who got one for $75. There are other things you can get for the Lisa but in general, you should find it a pretty solid piece of hardware. Don't worry about it overheating, for example: it will shut itself off, first the video, then the entire machine at 195 degrees F. This is _one_ of the reasons Apple discontinued it - too much hardware for the money - also too little customers for the hardware... Hmm. I think I'll give them a call this morning, burn a little plastic or something. Laird ------------------------------ From: MACLAIRD Subject: RE: LISA Help (Re: Msg 19851) Date: 13-MAY 21:10 Hardware & Peripherals **Hot Flash ** (Gee, I must be getting old. Not that old?!) I spoke with both Dafax and the NetWorkers today. These companies are selling products for the Lisa and Macintosh XL. The big news is, the sales manager at the NetWorkers says, MacWorks 4.0 is out! Apparently a large company with a large number of Lisas did some heavy leaning, so Apple allocated the time to implement HFS. They will use third parties to market it, probably for reasons political. I would imagine certain decision-makers there have not yet been reminded by their subordinates that they have egg on their collective faces. The level of software is apparently up to "Hard Disk 20", which means HFS is in but the other 128K ROM traps are not. When I get the software, I will have more info. Not too much else, unless you absolutely need a 20Meg internal drive to replace the parallel port in your Lisa (2/10 or 2/5). What the Lisa needs is: 1) an accellerator card; 2) a sound card so Macintosh software won't bomb. On the other hand, what _I_ need is a Macintosh II. I got my $1500, J.S., want to make a trade? Laird ------------------------------ From: MACBLACK Subject: Shadowgate Date: 12-MAY 19:11 Games and Entertainment Well guys, it is out, and it is good. If you aren't aware, Shadowgate is the next graphic adventure from Mindscape. Go to your store and BUY! BUY! BUY! Alex ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: more stack Date: 10-MAY 21:07 Programming Techniques Does anyone know a good trick for temporarily allocating more stack space if it's available (to do a large CopyBits, for instance). I don't want to modify the application heap limit since this would permanently remove a large block of memory from heap space. Joe ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: more stack (Re: Msg 1592) Date: 11-MAY 01:32 Programming Techniques You may not be able to. MoveHHi propoagates things to the top of the heap that subsequently get locked. Once that happens you are out of luck. peter ------------------------------ From: MER Subject: IW spool files Date: 11-MAY 21:27 Programming Techniques Does anyone know the format of Imagewriter spool files? I need to be able to turn them into bit maps? Has it ever been documented? Help!!!!! ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: IW spool files (Re: Msg 1595) Date: 11-MAY 21:42 Programming Techniques Spool files are QuickDraw PICTs, more or less. You could hack around with the Tech Note that describes QD format (but not for implementation, as the data structure is guaranteed to change without notice!). You could also use Glue to convert the spooled output into a more manageable form. Look in the printing manager documentation for more information. peter ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: Downloadable fonts, Altsys Date: 12-MAY 21:31 Bugs & Features It turned out my problem with Laser Prep 4.0 and one downloadable font was cured by regenerating the bitmap for the font; apparently the FOND was invalid. Doing the regeneration was a bit of a problem, however. All of Altsys's font programs are written in Megamax C, and there's apparently a bug in Megamax where it uses low memory globals. System 4.1 also uses these globals, so I could only run Fontographer on a System 3.2 machine. ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: Downloadable fonts, Altsys (Re: Msg 19833) Date: 13-MAY 00:34 Bugs & Features Have you tried patching Fontographer to use a different area of memory? peter ------------------------------ From: DWB Subject: RE: Downloadable fonts, Altsys (Re: Msg 19839) Date: 13-MAY 03:24 Bugs & Features David, As reported elsewhere's (also by me) programs written using Megamax can be fixed to run with System 4.1 by changing two references to BasicGlobs ($2b6) to refer to ApplScratch ($a78) It would probably be a good idea to make sure that the program doesn't already user ApplScratch. The only program I've actually tried this with, and guaranteed that, in that case at least, it works is UW. David BTW, BasicGlobs was the >last< available (to Apple, not programmers) low memory variable to be reallocated. It got used to point to a block of more low memory variables. ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: RE: Downloadable fonts, Altsys (Re: Msg 19848) Date: 13-MAY 18:56 Bugs & Features You *can't* patch Fontographer because they encrypt themselves! I already tried the patch (only one place was found) and it didn't work. They said that they expect a fixed version (with new features) to be ready by the end of this month. Upgrades will be $30. It is now written in LSC. Jeff P.S. They have *no* plans on dropping the copy protection due to the way Fontastic was pirated. Version 2.2.1 (the latest version that is out) defies all the current copy programs to even make a duplicate of the key disk, let alone break it. ------------------------------ From: WSMITH Subject: Tiler bug for 4.1 users Date: 12-MAY 23:37 Public Domain Due to the wild new Menu Manager in System 4.1, users of LightspeedC (and possibly some other applications) will notice strange behavior in the menu bar when using Tiler. Normally, the problem is only one of appearance, but in one case the Lightspeed Windows menu disappeared, which was bad. I will try to get this fixed before I leave for Thailand on Monday, but if I don't get a chance, be aware of the problem. - Walt ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: Tiler bug for 4.1 users (Re: Msg 19838) Date: 13-MAY 00:48 Public Domain Along the same lines, Excel has some difficulty under release 4.1 with Desk Accessories that have their own menus. peter ------------------------------ From: LOFTUSBECKER Subject: RE: Tiler bug for 4.1 users (Re: Msg 19844) Date: 13-MAY 06:48 Public Domain And, I'm told, even with some of its own menus ('Options'?). ------------------------------ From: 9898STEVEM Subject: Laser Spoolers Date: 13-MAY 06:19 Mousing Around Hi Everybody I am New to Mac Icontact. The forum messages are great. I luv the bit of humor there as well. Anyway, down to a question I have got.......What is the best Laser spooler to use?? Have tried LaserServe but it has problems when you print multiple copies of a one page document. Laserspeed is great except it will only work with the 3.2 drivers(maybe an update is available???). I have a pre-release LaserShare but havent been able to make it work (Yet!!!!). Any Ideas guys (and Gals)......... Regards Steve PS Couldnt resist putting a joke in (Only heard it today-The time over here, by the way, is 10:30 pm).......What is the definition of debate?? De bait is what lures de fish !!!! (Well......I liked it) ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Laser Spoolers (Re: Msg 19855) Date: 13-MAY 06:48 Mousing Around Hi Steve, welcome aboard! I have found LaserSpeed the best out of the ones I've tried, and I used the older LaserWriter/Laser Prep files when I switched to System 4.0. I haven't tried it with the new System 4.1 stuff though. Ric ------------------------------ From: UJL0012 Subject: Kanji Printer Interface "Print Jack" Date: 13-MAY 06:48 Hardware & Peripherals This is a notice to all Mac users who are either interested or would like to use the Japanese language. "Basic House" located in the prefecture of Tochigi in Japan has started the shipment of a Japanese language printer interface box by the name of Print Jack as of May 11. The retail price is 45,000 yen. Print Jack enables the connection of the Mac to various 24-dot Kanji printers sold by, for instance, Epson, NEC and Brother. By using it along with Kanji Talk or Egword, the use of kanji and graphics will be possible. The following is a list of Kanji Printers which may be connected (the model numbers are those of domestic models in Japan): NEC: PC-PR201 Epson: HG-2500 Brother: M-1724P Star: AR-2410 PC-PR101 VP-2500 M-1024P TR-24CL PC-PR406 VP-135K NM-9000 VP-130K PC-PR-TL VP-85K Since the Imagewriter uses an 8-dot printer head, there was always a problem that the printed image of a complicated kanji character did not appear as clearly as it should. In Japan, therefore, various companies have come up with printers having very fine 24-dot printer heads. Unfortunately, it was not possible to connect the Mac with these printers. One software company came up with a printer driver for the Epson Kanji Printer. This, however, could not print out graphics. Of the printers listed hereinabove, for instance Epson's ink-jet printer HG-2500 has not only Kanji characters (JIS-1, JIS-2) but some English fonts in its ROM. As a matter of course, the English fonts printed out using it are very beautiful. In the case of other printers which do not have English fonts in their ROMs, the English fonts will be printed out using the 8-dot mode. However, even in this case, the fonts printed out using such printers will be more precise due to the fact that it uses a finer pin. Empirically, graphics printed out using these printers appear to be slightly smaller than those printed out using Imagewriter. The size of Print Jack is the same as Apple's 800K external drive. The price includes that of the AC/DC converter. Name: Basic House Address: 503-1 Takebayashi-cho Utsunomiya City, Tochigi 321 Japan Telephone No.: 0286-22-9811 Facsmile No. : 0286-25-3970 (disclaimer) I am only a user of Print Jack and have no other relationship whatsoever with Basic House. I have posted this message since it will be very helpful to those who wish to print out clear Japanese writing. Junichiro ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: Excel 1.04 Date: 13-MAY 12:34 Business Mac Microsoft has announced that they are shipping Excel 1.04, an upgrade to support the Mac II, fix some bugs (not DA support, unfortunately), and add a "change links" command. It is to be free to Excel 1.03 owners. More information is available at 1-800-426-9400 (206-882-8088 in WA and Alaska). I'm having lots of bombs with Excel and System 4.1. I sure hope this fixes them. Ric ------------------------------ From: DEWI Subject: 4.1 Menu Manager Date: 13-MAY 01:25 Macintosh Developers Seems that the new 4.1 Menu Manager breaks the odd few bits of code. Here's what I've discovered so far: 1. AddResMenu seems to have changed. When I changed to 4.1, "Postscript Escape" turned up twice in MacWrite etc. font menus. I checked the FONT and FOND resources, but couldn't see anything odd... 2. Pop-up menus using the technique given in MacTutor some time back (with the initialization fix for the Mac Plus) sometimes go wild, and the menu text moves down half a line. Only sometimes. I've seen this in some of my code, and once in LSC's titlebar drop down menus. I'm looking into the problems. If I ever figure out what's happening, I'll post a note. Cheers, Dewi. ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: HyperCharger 020 Date: 13-MAY 19:53 Hardware & Peripherals I just stuck a General Computer HyperCharger 020 in the Mac SE. It wasn't hard, but I was glad someone warned on one of the nets to be careful of the circuit board on the end of the CRT so you don't break the CRT and cause an implosion. First impressions: It's not awesome. It *is* very, very responsive. The disk access light stays on almost constantly. This sucker is I/O bound. There's a special INIT that somehow tells the world that the 68881 is present (do a help in Excel to hear about the "math chip" being there.) There's a neat control panel module that lets you choose GCC SANE or Apple SANE and patch traps so dumb old MacWrite will work. I'm using a beta version of Red Ryder and it seems OK. Haven't run much of anything else yet. Word 3.0 didn't bomb. I don't know why not. It comes with an extra 1MB in 4 256K SIMMs. The boards, logic and expansion together, are surprisingly weighty. Yeah, applications start up *real* fast. Except for that I/O delay. Word processors (like Word 3) now scroll as fast as text-only programs like QUED. Acta still takes a while to open a big file; alternating between disk and CPU The screen now has very subtle waves moving vertically, about 1/2" apart (white lines) I like it a lot. Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19867) Date: 13-MAY 22:45 Hardware & Peripherals Second impressions: A good user interface *gobbles* up computer resources to an amazing degree. Tests: DMCS 2.0 bombs right away, as does MOTU Performer. DiskFit and HFS Backup (2.01) both did incremental backups successfully and quickly. HFS incremental still took a while for 1600 files, but was definitely 4 times faster. Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19876) Date: 14-MAY 06:39 Hardware & Peripherals DiskTimer II results using the HyperCharger 020/68881 System on a DataFrame 40XP were 50, 50, 17. (two trials) Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19885) Date: 14-MAY 08:33 Hardware & Peripherals I'm finding that some of the discoveries about the HyperDrive 2000 are also true of this 68020 HyperCharger SE... most importantly, that the basic character of the Macintosh is unchanged. It seems we have an enormous ability to absorb computer power. I thought this system would be instantaneous, incredible. But it's not. Slow things are still *relatively* slow. Fast things are faster. Overall the computer is much more responsive. But the responsiveness is not overwhelming. It's still not *too* fast. The speed increase is such that I get more work done; it's not a wasted blast of speed, like having a drag-racer on the highway. It's more like a very fine, but balanced vehicle (Porsche 944 or 928 for you enthusiasts). Ric ------------------------------ From: RICKLEPAGE Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19916) Date: 15-MAY 09:23 Hardware & Peripherals Is there an option to bypass the 020? Rick ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19918) Date: 15-MAY 09:46 Hardware & Peripherals No. There are compatibility options in the HyperCharger module of the Control Panel: SANE can be GCC, Apple, or off (if you have a 68881), the 68020 on-cpu instruction cache can be turned off or on, but always comes on at startup, and you can choose a hack to make MacWrite run on the 68020. One very interesting thing is that GCC says that AppleTalk will not work correctly unless the 68020 instruction cache is ON. So, your compatibility is even less configurable when you are using AppleTalk. Ric ------------------------------ From: RICKLEPAGE Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19919) Date: 15-MAY 19:25 Hardware & Peripherals hmmm.....what are the technical specifics of the processor (speed, wait states, etc.) just curiouser and curiouser r ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19923) Date: 15-MAY 19:59 Hardware & Peripherals The 68020 is running at 16MHz. I don't know about wait states. The 68881 is a 12MHz version according to the label on the chip, and there are some jumpers on the board to switch between 12MHz and 16MHz '881's. Other jumpers determine the memory configuration of the SE and of the HyperCharger. The HyperCharger has 4 SIMMs, using 256K chips (120 ns. for compatibility with the faster processor), and they can be replaced with 1M SIMMs, so you can get some pretty serious memory in there. The HyperCharger memory is accessed via a 32-bit path, so it's faster than the Mac-native memory access. GCC recommends devoting all the Mac RAM to cache. Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: HyperCharger 020 (Re: Msg 19925) Date: 15-MAY 20:24 Hardware & Peripherals I just ran my processor speed test: using PackIt III to compress Excel 1.03, and the HyperCharger came out virtually identical to a prototype Mac II in speed. Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: 68020 upgrades for SE (Re: Msg 19958) Date: 18-MAY 18:11 Hardware & Peripherals ================= update ... ================ Compatibility report - HyperCharger 020/Mac SE ---------------------------------------------- This report is preliminary. The testing has not been extensive. Bombs: ------ Hitting Mac Interrupt button causes crash unless 68020 instruction cache is turned off with Control Panel module. DMCS 2.0 FreeTerm Performer MacWrite (if compatibility options not used) *Serious Problems: ------------------ (Red Ryder beta) Smartcom II 2.2 ShowSizes SuperSpool OK in limited testing (* means more extensive use) -------------------------------------------------- Acta * AppleLink 4 Calculator + CopyII Mac 6.4 (block copy *) Cricket Graph Da Mob Desktop Express * DiskFit * DiskTimer II DiskTop * Excel 1.04 * FileMaker Plus Font/DA Mover 3.4 patched Hard Disk Partition HeapShow HFS Backup 2.01 * MacDraw 2.0 * MaxPrint 1.3 * miniWRITER * MockTerminal * Omnis 3 Plus 3.24 * PackIt III, v. 1.2 * PowerStation QUED 1.54 RamDisk+ RAMStart 1.32 * ResEdit 1.1d3 SCSI Bus control panel module SetClock 1.6 * SuperPaint * Word 3.00 * Compatibility Issues -------------------- The HyperCharger INIT file doesn't seem to be compatible with AppleShare. - Ric Ford - ------------------------------ From: ROSSH Subject: ADDISON WESLEY Date: 13-MAY 22:07 Bugs & Features Has anyone had a problem with Addison Wesley. Am trying to get Inside Mac vols 1&4 (4 on order from APDA). Local retailers (WaldenBooks, Daltons, and others) are irate, upset, and ticked off with them. They have been told that IM is out of stock and they have no current plans to reprint! Can anyone confirm? If true, shouldn't Apple get involved. It is quite unusual to see more than one bookstore owner fly off the handle at the mention of the name Addison Wesley! PS..the retail cost is the same as the APDA cost. Doesn't seem right somehow. Oh yes, one owner was told AW was interested in textbooks not computer books in priority. ------------------------------ From: INC Subject: Draw 30 and New System! Date: 14-MAY 13:13 Bugs & Features Am having some serious problems with the new system and MacDraw here at work. We have 3 Macs (2 +'s, one 512ke) and it's giving us a major headache. What happens is that when you're typing text, after hitting two returns, spaces or a combo thereof, the Mac semi-hangs. You then can not type anything else unless you click the mouse and when you click the mouse, the text you were working on either moves to some seemingly random space on the page or totally disapears. Help! Any ideas? Joshua ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: swapping SE floppy and hard disks Date: 14-MAY 18:22 Hardware & Peripherals I had some confusion about what was required to switch between the second floppy drive and an internal hard disk in the Mac SE. Apparently, the only consideration is cables. If you buy an SE with 2 floppies, you don't get the power cable that connects an SE hard disk with the analog board. Or a SCSI cable. According to one of the technical support guys at Warp 9, there aren't any other hidden differences between the two versions. Ric ------------------------------ From: FMBBS Subject: LISA-HELP? XL Date: 15-MAY 06:39 Hardware & Peripherals I have finally gotten my Lisa XL up and running. When I put in the memory card for an additional 512k, I started haveing problems(not memory problems, tried 2 cards). After a while, the screen goes blank and the system is in effect, shupt down however the power does not go off. I suspected a Heat problem and put a small fan over the holes in the top of the case( moves a little air only). everything seems to be OK. Is there a way to readjust the shut down sensor?? I am sure I have no actual HW problems. ANy suggestions?? BIll Taylor FMBBS running on XL and FAN 803-548-0900 ------------------------------ From: AESOP Subject: RE: LISA-HELP? XL (Re: Msg 19915) Date: 17-MAY 07:01 Hardware & Peripherals Bill, First, the XL screen dims automatically after a short period without getting keyboard input, the mouse moving, or having a disk inserted. The screen will brighten automatically when any of those events occurs. There _are_ some cases when the XL will indeed be hung in a screen-dark state with no way to power-off or escape. These are rare, and normally due to some program accessing a memory location normally reserved for memory-mapped hard- ware. Do the words "program bug" mean anything to you? If your Lisa has the internal Hard disk (a "2/10") I would suspect a fan of some sort is already in it. At least, I have always felt a slight breeze on the right (disk drive) side of mine while it is running. The power-on/power-off button generates an interrupt that asks the rest of the machine to switch power. I always choose "Shut Down" from the Finder's menus, but you might try holding the mouse down while pushing the power switch or something like that. The software does not _have_ to answer the power-switch interrupt if it has better things to do. Laird ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: Centram TOPS BBS Date: 15-MAY 09:09 Business Mac I don't remember seeing this info before, so here it is: Centram, Inc., the company which sells the TOPS networking software, has set up a bulletin board (300/1200/2400 baud; 8 bits, 1 stop, no parity) called TOPS Talk at 415-549-5955. The bulletin board contains software updates notes and discussion about the products. Centram is in Berkeley, CA, at 415-549-5900. Ric Ford ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: Excel 1.04: Yay! Date: 15-MAY 19:55 Business Mac I haven't tested it thoroughly, but Excel 1.04 passed a rough initial test. Using the HyperCharged Mac SE, and System 4.1, I opened a 90K Acta file, modified it and saved it. No bomb!!!! Go Microsoft! Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Excel 1.04: Yay! (Re: Msg 19924) Date: 15-MAY 20:11 Business Mac Just to show that all the brain damage has not been fixed... Excel 1.04 continues to intercept Command-Z and Command-C from desk accessories such as MockTerminal, making use of this telecommunications tool very awkward. Ric ------------------------------ From: RODPAINE Subject: Radius 68020 board Date: 15-MAY 20:44 Hardware & Peripherals Ric, Have you had an opportunity to spend some time with the Radius 68020 board? -Rod ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Radius 68020 board (Re: Msg 19931) Date: 15-MAY 21:28 Hardware & Peripherals No I haven't. It is less expensive, and I'm curious to see whether it has provision for a 68851 PMMU. (The HyperCharger doesn't, although it seems to have some expandability, and BigPicture compatibility is advertised.) Ric ------------------------------ From: RODPAINE Subject: RE: Radius 68020 board (Re: Msg 19933) Date: 15-MAY 23:12 Hardware & Peripherals Ric, It has the 16mhz 881 math chip, but it doesn't support the 851 PMMU chip. Andy has indicated that it slows down performance and is not very useful in the Mac enviornment. He believes the 68030 will obsolete the 851, since it has it's own built-in MMU and software to take advantage of the 851 will perhaps be some time in coming. I've ordered two Radius Accelerator boards with the FPD board and FPD's, for Mac Plus's, hoping for a mid June delivery. I'll keep in touch with you on this . . . we may have some interesting notes to exchange. On an earlier matter- Tangent Tech sent me PC MacKey v2.2 which has fixed the System 4.1 problem. Are you using v2.2 on your Tangent? -Rod ------------------------------ From: LOGICHACK Subject: Mac II Trinitrons Date: 15-MAY 23:27 Hardware & Peripherals The remark on a recent Usenet digest regarding the 'characteristic trinitron line' got me curious and I did some checking. Turns out, as far as I can tell, all Sony Trinitrons screens have a faint line across the screen about 2/3 of the way down. It shows up on my prototype color monitor for the Mac II and I went to an appliance store today and say it there too. Does anyone have a good explanation for this? Its not super noticeable but after you find out about it, it gets annoying. Does anyone who has observed the SuperMac monitors first hand noticed a similar problem? Actually, can someone who has actually seen one of these screens post an impression? Paul :( ------------------------------ From: RODPAINE Subject: RE: Mac II Trinitrons (Re: Msg 19940) Date: 16-MAY 11:18 Hardware & Peripherals Paul, What you are seeing is part of the mask assy support, it's in all Trinitrons I've ever used, including my $5000. broadcast monitors at work. It's more apparent to you since you're looking at a solid background, as opposed to a video picture thas always changing. I have other info on the Trinitron, but it's at work. Be happy to share it with you, if your interested. -Rod ------------------------------ From: LOGICHACK Subject: Desktop bus mice Date: 15-MAY 23:36 Hardware & Peripherals I'm experiencing a problem with the mouse on my Mac II. Sometimes the mouse button likes to pretend it's staying down, even after I release it. The problem is evident when using scroll bars. The phantom press goes away when I move the mouse a bit. Anyone else with the same problem? How about on SEs? Paul :) ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19943) Date: 15-MAY 23:43 Hardware & Peripherals I have seen no sign of this problem on the SE, with or without the HyperCharger. I do notice the SE mouse is a little slower than the Plus mouse. Do you know the desktop bus well enough to comment on how the mice might be different or not in design? Could one be switched for the other without a major hardware project? Ric ------------------------------ From: JIMH Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19945) Date: 15-MAY 23:43 Hardware & Peripherals Anyone seen a desktop bus joystick? best jim ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19945) Date: 16-MAY 04:05 Hardware & Peripherals Old mice and ADB mice are quite different in their interfacing. The latter has a microprocessor in it to interface to the ADB. Anyway, the speed of the mouse is very likely a function of the hardware and software on the other end of the wire. ------------------------------ From: 9898STEVEM Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19943) Date: 16-MAY 05:56 Hardware & Peripherals I'm getting a problem with my mouse on an SE. It's not staying down but it tends to "bounce" on me ie I get a double click when I don't want it. This seems to be a problem with a lot of desk top bus mice. We have about twenty SE's at work and about half do it. Wierd thing is my GS does'nt have the problem at all. Maybe it's with the SE and II. A problem with the ADB chip???? Regards Steve :-} ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19954) Date: 16-MAY 08:42 Hardware & Peripherals This sounds like an intermittent connection, which could be a plug not in quite right, or a break in the wire (a tiny one) or a bad button (switch) Ric ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19954) Date: 16-MAY 16:25 Hardware & Peripherals Take a look at the serial numbers on the mice that act up. Are they part of the same batch? (I've never seen enough Macs in one place to know if you can tell by looking at the numbers.) Also, does the bounciness move with the mouse if you attach it to an Mac that doesn't exhibit the problem? peter ------------------------------ From: AESOP Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19957) Date: 16-MAY 23:05 Hardware & Peripherals Ric, Early versions of MacWorks for the Lisa had the same type of problem, which was not really hardware-related. MacWorks XL (actually, anything after 1.0) fixed the problem, and my Lisa 2/10 tracks the mouse extremely well. I bought a Lisa 2/5 last year, _cheap_, and its mouse is loose, as the plug lacks nuts for the locking screws. It does have some vagueness with the mouse, but very rarely. Normally, it is as responsive as, well, a Macintosh clocked at 5 MHz. Cheers, Laird ------------------------------ From: 9898STEVEM Subject: RE: Desktop bus mice (Re: Msg 19984) Date: 17-MAY 04:11 Hardware & Peripherals The other problem is with the new system file "Easy Access". I manage to turn on the sticky keys feature at the darndest moments - just when i'm wanting to do shift-clicks etc. It becomes a pain after a while. Regards Steve :-} ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: 68020 upgrades for SE Date: 16-MAY 09:22 Hardware & Peripherals One issue I haven't seen discussed is disabling 68020 upgrades after you install them in a Mac SE. What are you supposed to do, disassemble the Mac every time a program crashes and you want to see if it's an incompatibility with the '020? Has anyone heard of a board that can be switched to 68000-ONLY mode from the outside of the Mac? Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: File/Disk Bug Fixes: Copy II 6.5 Date: 16-MAY 17:11 Bugs & Features Just received a *very* interesting release from Central Point Software. It seems they've just released Copy II Mac 6.5, along with fixes for two significant bugs in the Macintosh disk/file software: - the upper drive of a two-floppy Mac SE is significantly slower than the lower drive - All Macs with 128K ROMs have a bug that writes incorrect file tags to disks Central Point claims their "CPS TagFix" file corrects these bugs (I assume the file is an INIT). Copy II Mac 6.5 lists for $39.95 and is available as an upgrade for registered users at $18, including shipping and handling. Central Point Software: 503-244-5782. - Ric - ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: MacSmalltalk 0.4 (Re: Msg 19961) Date: 16-MAY 23:00 Network Digests >From: jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Joel West) >Subject: MacSmalltalk 0.4 Does the new Smalltalk support different sized screens (specifically my Radius FPD)? ------------------------------ From: MUSEUM Subject: Toshiba 24 pin printer Date: 18-MAY 11:19 Hardware & Peripherals Has anyone used the Toshiba 24 pin dot matrix printer with the Mac? I just got one, and need to either find or write a driver. I'd appreciate any comments on the printer's performance and Imagewriter/ laserwriter compatibility, as well. -mb ------------------------------ End of Delphi Mac Digest ************************