INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Moderator Dwayne Virnau...) (05/22/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Thursday, 21 May 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 91
Today's Topics:
ResEdit Mod
Secret Globals from IM V4
Dimmed (or gray) Text
How do I tell the keypad keys from the keyboard keys?
Re: Networked Applications (V5 #84)
Re: Reconstructing Desktop WITH info? (V5 #85)
What makes programming for the Mac difficult?
Re: System 4.1/Finder 5.5. What's new?
Re: FindFile comments
MAC SE's & kermit
FWB Hard Disk Backup Prob. with System 4.0 or greater
Re: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #27
A User meets the Mac II: Software and Hardware notes
Long term Mac usage
Re: Mac+ Power Supply Problems
LaserWriter transparencies
SCSI hard disk prices finally coming down?
Micah AT repair
Micah questions
New Equation Editor?
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Date: Thu, 14 May 87 21:04:57 PDT
From: digiorgi@Jpl-VLSI.ARPA
Subject: ResEdit Mod
I got a little tired of trying to remember that the Cached and Shared bits
for the Finder attributes were flipped in ResEdit, so I simply made a copy
of ResEdit and edited DITL=1004 to put the labels in the correct places.
no more confusion for me anyway.
is ResEdit v1.0.1 the latest or is there a later release available? what
are the current versions of MPW (C, Pascal, Asm, and MacApp... ) and how
does one go about getting notified and upgraded when a version release is
available?
thanks,
Godfrey DiGiorgi
digiorgi@jpl-vlsi
May 14, 1987
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Date: Sun, 17 May 87 17:03:34 PDT
From: PUGH%CCC.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa
Subject: Secret Globals from IM V4
There are some globals listed in the back of the beta draft of Inside Mac Vol
4, but only 2 of them have locations listed. Where are the others found?
Specifically, I would like to use CurDirStore from the new Standard File
package.
Are these really globals or is this all a cruel joke?
Jon
N L pugh@nmfecc.arpa
M A L National Magnetic Fusion Energy Computer Center
F T N Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
E L PO Box 5509 L-561
C Livermore, California 94550
C (415) 423-4239
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Date: Mon 18 May 87 10:58:06-EDT
From: "Glen T. Slick" <JKR%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Dimmed (or gray) Text
How do you draw dimmed (or gray) text such the dimmed text of an inactive
contol button or the dimmed text of a disabled menu item? A C code fragment
would be appreciated. Thanks.
-gts ARPA: jkr%mit-oz@mit-xx
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Date: Mon, 18 May 87 15:38:44 EDT
From: "Collins, Herman" <SYSHERM@UKCC>
Subject: How do I tell the keypad keys from the keyboard keys?
OK, ok, ok. I give up. I've read the books (I'm waiting for the
movie). I've hacked at the code. How in the heck do I tell the
difference between the "=/*+" keys on the MacPlus keypad and the cursor
keys on the main keyboard? This topic has come up several times on this
list and others, but I've yet to see a good answer.
I'm writing a terminal emulator. It's an interesting project, and it
gives me some practice writing a Mac DA, but I'm stuck on this one
point. The keypad keys return exactly the same keycodes as the cursor
keys (but different ASCII codes). The modifier bits are set normally.
Inside MacIntosh_ says very little about this, although Volumn III says
that an inquire command can be sent to the keyboard, but this sounds
like I'd have to write a new keyboard driver.
MacIntosh Revealed_ mentions that INIT1 and INIT2 map the keycodes to
ASCII codes, while several passing references on the net mention INIT0
and INIT1 performing this task. I partially disassembled INITs 0-2 and
0 and 1 seem to be the right ones. At least they stick the address of
a procedure into $2A2 and $29E respectively. The procedures use D0 and
D1 to index into a table (that could be ASCII) and return a character.
Are these INITs documented anywhere? Can I poke the addresses of my own
mapping routines into these addresses? Will this work on all Macs? Is
there any documentation on the keyboard driver? Am I overlooking
something? Thanks for any help that anyone can give me.
Herman Collins
SYSHERM@UKCC (BITNET)
"Reality -- What a concept!" R. Williams
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Date: Thu, 14 May 87 15:36:54 pdt
From: voder!apple!lsr@Sun.COM (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: Networked Applications (V5 #84)
In article <8705050854.AA02740@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> you write:
>INFO-MAC Digest Tuesday, 5 May 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 84
>
>
>From: PUGH%CCC.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa
>Subject: Networked Applications
>
>What do you have to do to make your program runnable by more than one person
>on Appletalk?
Tech Note #126 (brand new) has the answer. In the 128K ROMs, it is possible
to tell the Launch trap to open the application read-only. The bit that
indicates this is stored in the file Finder info flags (the shared bit).
Tech Note #40 talks about all the Finder flags. (This Tech Note was revised
last March to fix a bug.)
Larry Rosenstein
Object Specialist
Apple Computer
AppleLink: Rosenstein1
UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr
CSNET: lsr@Apple.CSNET
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Date: Mon, 18 May 87 09:01:05 pdt
From: Larry Rosenstein <lsr%apple.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Re: Reconstructing Desktop WITH info? (V5 #85)
In article <8705060442.AA14190@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> you write:
>Date: 1 May 1987 11:24-EDT
>From: Richard.Lerner@speech2.cs.cmu.edu
>Subject: Reconstructing Desktop WITH info?
>
>Does anyone know of a program which can recreate a desktop without loosing the
>text in the GetInfo box? It seems like it should be easy to get that
>information from the old desktop, or at least try.
I don't know of an automatic way, but if you have ResEdit you can do it.
Simply open up the Desktop file and copy all the FCMT resources into a new
file. Then rebuild the Desktop and use ResEdit to copy the resources back.
This works in version 5.5 of the Finder. Of course, a future version of
the Finder might store the comments in an entirely different way.
Larry
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Date: Thu, 14 May 87 18:53:13 pdt
From: apple!tecot@Sun.COM (Ed Tecot)
Subject: What makes programming for the Mac difficult?
What makes programming for the Macintosh difficult? What would you like
to see in terms of software to make it simpler? Please no flames about
deficencies in Pascal, C, 68xxx or documentation. Also, examples of software
which already achieves these means would be useful, such as MacApp or Skel.
I'll summarize.
Tnx,
_emt
My address is tecot%apple@csnet-relay or sun!apple!tecot or nsc!apple!tecot.
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Date: Sat 16 May 87 20:59:17-PDT
From: Brodie Lockard <I.ISIMO@LEAR.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: System 4.1/Finder 5.5. What's new?
In a recent message, Duane Williams criticized the few features he noticed
in Apple's new system software, including making several cracks about Sticky
Keys and Mouse Keys, two utilities providing keyboard access and mouse
emulation for handicapped users who have no other way of using a Macintosh.
The additional features have already been listed by others on the net. As
for the access utilities, Mr. Williams is probably correct that they "aren't
much use to about 99% of the Mac users." The other 1%, however, are very
grateful to Apple for taking the time and trouble to address a problem that
most users (fortunately) never have to think about.
Brodie Lockard
Stanford University
brod@portia.stanford.edu
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Date: Sun, 17 May 87 15:40 CDT
From: <BOYD@TAMLSR.BITNET> (Scott T. Boyd)
Subject: Re: FindFile comments
In a recent posting, someone made the assertion that Find File should
have taken about two weeks to write.
David Goldsmith wrote Find File before he became an Apple employee.
He worked on and off on it for four months. He then had to sell Apple
on it. Since he has joined Apple, David has added several significant
features, as well as making sure it runs on every variety of Mac and file
system.
Those of us who write software for a living appreciate the effort involved.
We applaud David's efforts. On top of that, we who use and beta-test Apple
system software know that their system's people have been very busy.
The only fair way to criticize their work is to be well informed. We
have criticisms, but they relate directly to specific technical points.
We could complain about vague generalities, but we have some insight into
the process, and it is not a simple or easy process. In addition, when
we have a gripe, we often learn from the people doing the work the reasons
why we can't have everything we want.
Info-mac is a good forum for discussion of proper ways to solve some problem.
Indeed, it's good to ask questions about why it seems Apple is doing this or
that. If you ask, we can all learn something when someone in the know
explains it.
scott t. boyd
greg marriott (yeah, like in the hotel)
The MacHax(tm) Group
[
>if you ask, we can all learn something when someone in the know explains it.
It is certainly nice to have someone in the know handy when you have questions.
The rest of us will have to stick to reading INFO-MAC. Sorry if you did not
like the way the question was phrased (I thought it was humorous), but before
anyone becomes personally offended PLEASE realize that we *are* asking just
those questions.
DoD
]
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Date: Fri, 15 May 87 08:06 EDT
From: "I am only an egg."
From: <JOHNSON%nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: MAC SE's & kermit
Hi!
I just bought a MAC SE. Nice machine. Having a problem with it
though.
I have a MAC plus at work. Kermit runs on it fine. I copied
kermit to a floppy and took it home. It came up on my SE but I didn't
seem to be able to get the modem to talk back. Ah, configuration is as
follows;
MAC SE
Racal-Vadic MAXELL 2000 modem (the kind you have to type
^E<cr>
d<cr>
#######<cr> at to make dial)
I put a breakout box between the modem and the SE. I saw modem
signals but not transmit or receive data signals. I'm going to try the
cable and the modem on the MAC plus at work.
Has anybody heard of this kind of kermit behavior on a healthy SE?
Another thing I tried was to take kermit to my dealer and try to run
it on his SE. His SE has a 68020 running in the expansion slot. I don't
know if that makes any difference or not but kermit wouldn't even come
up. We got the burnning fuse on the bomb icon and the system asked for a
restart.
Anyone notice this behavior?
USnail:
Chris Johnson
Academic Computer Services
Northeastern University 39RI
360 Huntington Ave.
Boston, MA. U.S.A. 02115
AT&T: (617) 437-2335
CSNET: johnson@nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu
ARPANET: johnson%nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu@relay.cs.net
BITNET: johnson%nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu@csnet-relay
(Always vote. There may not be anything you want to vote for, but
there might be something you want to vote against.)
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Date: Fri, 15 May 87 08:45:53 -0400
From: Larry Larraga <larraga@UDEL.EDU>
Subject: FWB Hard Disk Backup Prob. with System 4.0 or greater
I received a copy of the new System 4.1 stuff Wednesday and thought "Well,
I'll just start from scratch". I had a full disk backup using FWB's Hard
Disk Backup program that I did earlier in the week already, so I did another
full backup to have a spare. Both of these backups were done under System 4.0.
I then proceeded to use the new 4.1 HD SC Setup on my disk, which is an
SE internal 20SC drive. I initialized the disk (ahhhhrrrggh! - and why not?
I had TWO full backups that had been verified by HDBackup) and installed the
new SCSI driver (1.3) and copied the new system folder over with new utilities.
I then ran Hard Drive Backup from a floppy with the new System and Finder on it
and started to do a complete restore. After prompting me to insert the first
backup disk, the display showed "Reading HDB Storage File" then stopped and
the error message "file not found" appeared and the restore aborted. Fine, I
had another backup on hand. Same thing occurred again. Must be the new
System. I'll just go back to System 4.1. Wrong. Maybe it's the SE, I'll
try to restore to this Plus I have sitting here. No way. I now had two
useless backups and an empty hard drive. After much hair pulling, a friend
offered to look at my backups. All he did was restore it to his Plus with
an HD20 using System 3.2 and it worked! Why didn't I think of that? (Happy)
End of Story. (Whew!)
Larry Larraga
University of Delaware
Microcomputing Resource Center
152 Newark Hall
Newark, Delaware 19716
Voice: (302) 451-6782
ARPA: larraga@louie.udel.edu
BITNET: 26825@udacsvm.bitnet
COMPUSERVE: 76505,1426
GRNIE: L.LARRAGA
DELPHI: LLARRAGA
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Date: Sat 16 May 87 19:41:12-CDT
From: Werner Uhrig <CMP.WERNER@R20.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #27
please note the small mistake in file-name: you indicate that you save
# 27 as if it was #21; I hope that you did create the right file name in
the archives, but I have not checked yet.
archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DELPHIV3-21.ARC
[
DELPHI V3 27 was archived correctly, sorry about the misspelling.
DoD
]
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Date: Fri 15 May 87 02:10:41-PDT
From: Philip M. Pitner <PITNER@Sierra.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: A User meets the Mac II: Software and Hardware notes
I have had my MacII with Monochrome monitor (color not shipping yet due
to American tarriffs on Japanese monitors) for one week now. It's a very
nice machine! I'd like to relate some of my experiences to you which may
save future MacII owners some problems.
For those hooking a DataFrame XP20/40 to the MacII you must reinitialize
your drive using "Initializer 2.6" (not 2.5!). Second, the Mac II internal
hard disk drive uses SCSI address 0. New dataframes are shipping with
address 4 to eliminate the bus conflict. (NOTE!!! Even if you have a Mac
II with no internal drive the SCSI address of the external drive still
cannot be zero. This was a suprise to Supermac and even some people in
Apple technical support. Apparently something is done with SCSI address 0
on the CPU board)
After doing the above the Dataframe was recognized by the OpSys but the
MacII would not boot off the hard disk. We finally traced the problem to
Apple's SCSI chip. More than a few MacIIs have been returned due to some
problem with this chip. A replacement MacII solved the bootup problem.
Now, the software. The MacII comes with Finder 5.5 and System 4.1. The
obvious changes are cursor control of the mouse, sticky keys, and
monitor/sound modules for the control panel. There's also some internal
changes which cause some deskaccessories which work under Finder 5.4/System
4.0 to bomb under the 5.5/4.1 opsys. Some application bombs (e.g.
SuperPaint 1.0, MacPaint 1.5) can be eliminated by setting the monochrome
control panel to 2 colors.
THE SOFTWARE "CRASH, WORKS, and TRASH!" list.
Most of the important applications work. Some just crash... BUT
MacWrite 4.5 crashes and then proceeds to destroy the hard disk! So don't
even think of running it unless you have a good backup of your hard disk.
Here's some of the programs on my XP20 which I've tested:
"It WORKS" list:
Desk Accessories: (works)
Acta 1.2
Calender (Battery Paks)
Disk Info 1.41
Find File 1.1
Grep-Wc 1.1
KnockOut
MacEqn 2.0
MockTerminal 4.3
MockWrite 4.3
MiniDraw 0.2
Sci Calculator (Battery Paks)
Trails
Applications: (works)
Rolodex
Lode Runner (Three Cheers!)
More 1.0
MacDraft 1.2a
Cricket Graph 1.1
SuperMac Diskfit 1.0
MSChart 1.0
Textures 0.95
CopyMac 6.3
Fedit Plus 1.0.7
Word 3.0
Pagemaker 1.2
Microemacs 0.6
Excel 1.03
WriteNow 1.0
Edit 2.0
MacDraw 1.9
Binhex 5.0
Packit 1.0
ResEdit 1.0
PROGRAMS with PROBLEMS (but still usable!)
IconBounce (small screen)
MacPaint 1.5 ( crashes if use > 2 colors in control panel)
SuperPaint 1.0 ( " ")
Switcher 5.0 (runs but bombs on quit, don't use windows in rotation)
RedRyder 9.4 (clock is messed up; one digit on screen; doesn't
use full screen;but still the best terminal
emulator around; where's 10.0???)
Text Editor (crashes if try to expand screen beyond Mac+ limit)
Cricket Draw (doesn't boot...get message "needs 128K roms")
(Works nicely if you muck with MacTools and change
a few bytes in Cricket Draw.... What a
program speedup over the MacPlus!!!)
Lightspeed Pascal 1.0 (crashes if use > 2 colors in control panel
runs and compiles most programs but
suspect that a few bombs are being
caused by LSP problems... needs further
testing.
VersaTerm 3.0 (half a monitor screen but no more)
Talking Moose D/A (will probably work if some one will post the
new Apple MacInTalk drivers... Thanks)
PROGRAMS which CRASH the SYSTEM
Midi Synthesizer (to be expected of any programs which access
the sound chips directly)
Pinball CS
Dungeon of Doom
AutoBlack (Sob! Even the new version just posted bombs
the system)
SuperLaserSpool 1.01 (the new one SuperMac JUST released crashes)
MacLanding (1/04)
Megadroids (9/85)
Boing.bin (9/86) (get a message "not enough memory")
MacCommand
Go1
MazeWars
MacTRAN77 (Fortran)
Tempo 1.1 D/A (They have a update..."just give us
TEN more dollars....." Sigh...)
MS Flight Simulator
Phone Pad D/A (Battery Paks) (unfortunately Battery Paks
has been sold to another
company who seem to know
little about the product)
Coodinates D/A
NotePad D/A
Stars D/A
MacWrite 4.5 (Crashes and takes your hard disk to
never never land. Apple...when can
we expect a fix for this "standard"
product????)
MacsBug
SuperSpool 3.1d (the other SuperMac spooler also
crashes with passion... So with no
good print spoolers left running
with the Mac II this powerful
processor spends much time doing
nothing! Apple...where is
multitasking???)
So...overall...most of the important (for my applications this is Cricket
Draw/Draft, MS Word, Textures, Pascal, Excel) programs work. Any software
developers whose programs already have updates out for the MacII or
comments about above send me mail and I'll summarize to net. Hope Apple has
Multitasking out soon or IBM PS/2 Mod 80s may look better.
Hardware comments...very easy to install boards in MacII slots (video board
comes user-installed), sound jack doesn't seem to drive a speaker; looks
like it drives a stereo amplifier. Monochrome screen is nice and clear.
Video board expander kit is not available yet. Fan is noisy....won't leave
this system on all the time in the bedroom like the Mac ... but it takes
only 21.75 seconds to boot (w/DF XP20) from power on... Disk accesses are
now 1:1 interleave with the MacII (no blind reads required).
That's all for now folks!
Disclaimer: Opinions and Comments are mine alone.
Phil
"Pitner@Sierra.Stanford.Edu"
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Date: Mon 18 May 87 10:57:06-PDT
From: Irvin Lustig <OR.LUSTIG@Sierra.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Long term Mac usage
A group I work with wants to use Macs in a medical environment. The Macs
would have to be on 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. I would like to know
if anyone has any experience with keeping Macs on for extended periods of
time. Does the heat become a problem? Do disk drive power supplies break?
We are probably going to use Mac SE's with internal SCSI hard disks, but
any experience with any type of Mac would be interesting to know about.
I'll collect responses received by June 5, 1987 and post them to the net.
Irv Lustig
or.lustig@sierra.stanford.edu
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Date: Sat 16 May 87 20:34:14-CDT
From: Werner Uhrig <CMP.WERNER@R20.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mac+ Power Supply Problems
Rich (PAAAAA7%CALSTATE.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU) reports on hardware problems
which are quite common with early Mac+ editions, it seems.
In general, adding fans will PREVENT a lot of problems. However, I have found
one source for repairs of Mac analog and digital boards which I feel like
recommending to you because by calling you can often get a hint how you can
repair it yourself (or, at least, try) if you are so inclined, and repairs
come with a warranty at a real decent price and I have NEVER heard of a board
failing, once repaired (of course, one cannot ever exclude this - there is no
such magic :-)
whereas this company does mainly repairs for retail stores or hackers which
come refered ( so I can't quote any definite prices ), telling them that I
pointed you their way may well get you a friendly chat about your troubles.
If you have a shop with several Macs and a reasonable amount of "troubles"
over time, I'd expect you get GREAT support and prices - I've never heard of
any dissatisfied customers yet.
Where is this outfit you ask: In the Louisiana swamps and you can reach them
by calling (318)898-9215 and ask for Jim Moore - James C Moore Company does
their business mainly via UPS and they also handle Apple-II and PC-problems,
I believe.
Disclaimer: this is a public service announcement of which I do not expect
to benefit. You, the reader, and Jim will benefit, however, I hope.
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Date: 15 May 87 12:50:00 EST
From: Daniel P. B. Smith <smith%eri.decnet@mghccc.harvard.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter transparencies
With regard to transparency material for the LaserWriter, one
approach is to go to office supplies places and pretend you want
it for a Canon personal copier.
We have used two kinds of transparency material with success. One
is Canon U.S.A. Inc. Item Number 9-70015-D1, Type D, NP Transparency
Film for Canon Plain Paper Copiers, 100 sheets 8-1/2 x 11. This
claims to be for PC-10/14/20/24/25 and a whole bunch of others.
At the retail place where we bought it (Lechmere Sales in Dedham)
it cost $30 for 100 sheets.
We have also used 3M Transparency Film but I'm afraid I can't be quite
as specific. It was either "Type 501 universal" or "Type 503 Xerox."
I believe there was a matrix chart that included Canon PC-10's, that
503 was marked as recommended and 501 was marked as OK, and that it
was actually 501 that we used.
We have also used Avery #5260 labels, claimed to be "for laser printers,"
with good results. On the other hand, some labels that APDA sells
specifically for printing disk labels on a LaserWriter, are very thick
and frequently misfeed (from the manual tray). Nothing destructive, just
aggravating.
And while I'm on the topic, we've been experimenting with paper and I'd
like to hear from others. Ordinary duplicator paper works fine. However,
Hammermill Laser Plus works _noticeably_ better, blacker blacks and a
more opaque white background--makes a better original for photocopying.
Unfortunately, it has a right and a wrong side, and no amount of instruction
posting can decrease the probability of users loading the cassette the wrong
way to less than about 30%. We have _just_ gotten some Hammermill Laser
Print, #10460-4, Long Grain 8-1/2 x 11-12M-S24 "For High Resolution
Electronic Publishing." It looks good. I _thought_ this paper was going to
have both sides the same. They do _look_ the same, but :-( the package
has an arrow marked "copy this side first" so it's possible that
we've gone from a paper on which the "right" and "wrong" sides look
slightly different to a paper on which the "right" and "wrong" sides look
exactly the same.
Daniel P. B. Smith ARPA: smith%eri.decnet@mghccc.harvard.edu
Eye Research Institute CompuServe: 74706,661
20 Staniford Street Telephone (voice): 617 742-3140
Boston, MA 02114
"For my part, I could easily do without the post-office.... To speak
critically, I never received more than one or two letters in my life
that were worth the postage".--Thoreau
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Date: Sun 17 May 87 13:15:21-EDT
From: Richard A. Cowan <COWAN@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject: SCSI hard disk prices finally coming down?
I just noticed an ad in MacWorld for a MicroTech Nova Hard SCSI disk
that seems to be the least expensive yet. $689 for a 30 megabyte hard
disk, with free shipping (from Connecticut)! However, the ad is
somewhat confusing. Elsewhere on the page, the same drive is pictured
with $849 next to it. The ad is on page 217 of the June issue.
Has anyone heard anything about the reliability and noise level of
these drives? The lower price of $23 per megabyte is the best I've
seen for a small drive, and they also offer 50 Mb for $1000 (which
compares favorably with the Jasmine 80). My alternative is a Mirror
Tech, Magnet 30x drive for $799, listed on page 89 in the same June
1987 issue of MacWorld.
Oops -- Upon closer inspection, I noticed that the company is selling
two different 30Mb Hard Drives. The Nova is the cheaper of the two,
and fits under the Mac. The Micro Mac appears sleaker and quieter,
apparently a 3 1/2" drive that sits beside the mac, for $849. My
questions still hold.
Thanks for the help!
rich
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Date: 14 May 87 13:31:51 PDT (Thursday)
From: Mackey.osbunorth@Xerox.COM
Subject: Micah AT repair
I was told by the dealer who sold me a Micah AT that there is a company
which will repair Micahs (Micah corp. will be or was gone).
The name of the company is "IDT".
IDT
Delaware
302-731-1583 (ask for Steve Whitmore)
Kevin
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Date: Mon, 18 May 87 08:48:50 PDT
From: PUGH%CCC.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa
Subject: Micah questions
Here's a question that I would like cross posted to Steve Brecher on Delphi if
someone would be so kind.
I have a Micah drive in my work's Mac+ that is a year old or so. I bought
myself a Jasmine 80 and have been waiting for a SCSI for my old Mac, so I am
using the Jasmine on the Micah equipped Mac+. As you probably know, I cannot
use the external SCSI while the Micah is powered up. However, I can power
down the Micah, by internally pulling it's plug, and the external SCSI works
just fine. Also, there is a nifty cdev for the new Control Panel that
displays the status of the SCSI bus and the Micahdrive doesn't even register.
Do you have an explanation or remedy?
Do you have any information about Micah? I heard a rumor that they are up and
functioning in New Jersey (a far cry from Sausalito), but nothing substantial.
Are you still associated with them? One of the reasons I bought the Micah was
because your software was so much better than GCC's. If they dump you then
they haved dumped a major factor in their product.
Jon
N L pugh@nmfecc.arpa
M A L National Magnetic Fusion Energy Computer Center
F T N Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
E L PO Box 5509 L-561
C Livermore, California 94550
C (415) 423-4239
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Date: 18 May 87 16:37 EDT
From: rrenfro%tofacsa@dtrc.ARPA (Richard Renfro)
Subject: New Equation Editor?
Saw an ad for a new WYSIWYG equation editor called 'MathType', produced
by Design Science of Long Beach, CA. Has anybody used this enough
to comment on its usefulness?
Arpanet: rrenfro@dtrc.arpa
Genie: r.renfro
Phone: 301/227-1591
David Taylor Naval Ship Research & Development Center
Bethesda, MD 20084-5000
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