INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU.UUCP (06/14/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Saturday, 13 Jun 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 102
Today's Topics:
How to create a PICT-file from Turbo Pascal?
asynchronous sound on Mac II?
International Resources
MPW Shell Bug/problem
Mactran 77 2.0 Users???
Directory by Date
DiskFit
A User's Impressions of DiskFit and HD Backup
MAC2624 (HP-EMULATOR)
TEK 4125 Emulator for Mac II
Paint-Ricoh Laser Printer-HP plotter
Mac -> Unix -> LaserWriter
Fonts
Graphics tablets - resolution
Model 100 -> Mac
?? Callable Interfaces to a database
Mac/SE/MacII was on PBS tonight for 30 minutes - Computer Chronicles
Delphi Mac Digest V3 #31
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 87 16:23:29 SA
From: Tero Siili <FYS-TS%FINHUT.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: How to create a PICT-file from Turbo Pascal?
One simple question - please send an answer to me directly.
If I want to use QuickDraw routines in Turbo Pascal, typically to create
plots etc, how can I direct QD output to a disk file in PICT format, so
that I can manipulate it later with MacDraw or some other suitable program?
TS
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Date: 9 June 1987, 10:27:44 PST
From: David M. Gelphman 415-854-3300 x2538 DAVEG at
From: SLACVM
Subject: asynchronous sound on Mac II?
In working with a Mac II of late I noticed something which was quite
surprising to me. After hearing all about the sound chip and how it could
offload the CPU of the duties of producing sound and seeing a great demo
of a Mac II doing a fourier transform of the waveform while it was playing
I guess I had high expectations of the sound.
What I find is the following: using the built in mechanism for playing
the system beep sound (which can be a fun digitized sound) I find that
the sysbeep call stops all processing until the digitized sound has completed
playing. I thought this kind of thing was EXACTLY what having a sound chip
could avoid! In fact, I used to use the beepinit stuff which comes with
SoundCap (the updated version that is) on the MacPlus and it could play
the sound while the Mac continues work. I haven't tried the beepinit stuff
on the Mac II yet, I thought the built in functionality would make that
obsolete but evidently not.
Comments?
David Gelphman daveg%slacvm.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 87 09:38+0100
From: Ralph <MartinRR%cardiff.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK>
Subject: International Resources
Can someone explain the international resources in system 4.1 ? There
now seem to be 3 of type INTL, whereas there used to be 2. Also, there
are other resources of various types i... which have "US" as their
names.
Ideally, I would like to get my hands on a copy of these suitable for
Britain, as I have a US version of 4.1. Even better would be a utility
for choosing the country which swapped the resources appropriately - I
presume apple have such a doodah - perhaps they could post it to the net
if they are listening. I HATE the American format for dates - its SOOO
illogical.
Ralph
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 87 11:16:32 PDT
From: digiorgi@Jpl-VLSI.ARPA
Subject: MPW Shell Bug/problem
Has anyone noticed that the MPW Shell, if it sets up a 'Please Insert Disk'
prompt, has no way to cancel the request short of hitting the interrupt
switch and exiting to the finder?
This situation happens when I have loaded one or more floppies temporarily
into the drives and then do a directory search on all mounted volumes. If a
floppy has been ejected via the Cmd-Shft-1/2 mechanism, it is still mounted.
If it is ejected within an application launched from MPW Shell, it is still
mounted on return to the shell.
As sometimes happens, I might have a floppy in a drive to write a file and
then hand it off to someone else. If MPW wants to see it subsequently, I
have no choice but to exit via the interrupt button. The Finder recognizes
the Cmd-period to escape.
Has anyone figured a way around this behavior? I'd appreciate knowing
about it.
Godfrey DiGiorgi
digiorgi@jpl-vlsi
June 11, 1987
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Date: 10 Jun 87 10:12:00 EST
From: <bouldin@ceee-sed.arpa>
Subject: Mactran 77 2.0 Users???
Is anyone out there using Mactran 77 2.0?? I just got a copy to review. So
far, I find that it is much improved over the 1.0, but still not really a
mature product. Lots of little glitches in the Mac interface, cursors that
change to "i-beam" and then forget to change back to arrows, slow updates,
a really minimal editor (not even as good as Edit), etc.
Also, there are still a fair number of bugs in the compiler, although many
fewer than in the 1.0.
It doesn't work with my 68020 upgrade unless the instruction cache is turned
off.
These guys are gaining ground on Absoft/Microsoft, but in my opinion they still
have a ways to go, at least for "serious" fortran users. In an educational or
teaching environment, this setup might be preferable to Microsoft.
Any users of Mactran out there who have comments/praise/criticism of this
compiler???
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Date: Wed 3 Jun 87 23:12:54-EDT
From: JA1W@TE.CC.CMU.EDU
Subject: Directory by Date
Hello. I am the Macintosh Archive Maintainer for CMU. I get all the files from
Info-Mac when they are announced by your digest (thanks!!).
I was wondering if you-all could make a weekly, bi-weekly, or whatever, list
of the Info-Mac files _by date_ as well as by name? It would be nice, if, for
some reason or another, we don't get the digest, or I am in a rush and just
want to find out what the new files are. Better yet, if there would be some
way for FTP to be modified to list the dates - nah, never :-) .
Thank you,
Jesse Adelman
JA1W@TE.CC.CMU.EDU { preferred }
JA1W@Andrew.CMU.EDU
MA00@TE.CC.CMU.EDU { Mac Archive Account - finger for more info }
[
This is a good idea. In addition to the current directory files
00DIR.ANNOTATED (hopelessly out of date)
00DIR.NAMES (names of files in INFO-MAC)
00DIR.VERBOSE (names, sizes, date, by alphabetical order)
there is now a file
00DIR.RECENT (names, sizes, dates, by reverse cron. order)
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Date: 09 Jun 87 22:09 EDT
From: Richard Zaccone <ZACCONE%BUCKNELL.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
Subject: DiskFit
I have a DataFrame 20 which I just tried to Backup with the version of
DiskFit that was just posted. When I tried to use it, I received the
following message:
This version of DiskFit is for DataFrame owners only. Others may purchase
DiskFit from their local dealer.
What's wrong here? Will DiskFit not work with a 20mB disk? Any
suggestions?
Rick Zaccone
zaccone@bucknell.bitnet
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 87 13:21:09 pdt
From: david_bayer <dave@math.columbia.edu>
Subject: A User's Impressions of DiskFit and HD Backup
I have been using DiskFit, from SuperMac, to back up my hard disk
for the last few weeks. I would like to highly recommend it, and I would
like to tell a story explaining why I would never trust any other backup
software I have seen. [I have no connection with any company mentioned.]
My hard disk for the last year has been a Peripheral Land PL30,
which has performed flawlessly. I backed up as best I could manually until
Peripheral Land released a version of HD Backup, licensed to them to
distribute to owners of PL hard disks. This program, like most of its kin,
compacts the hard disk onto many floppies, using a file format ONLY
IT UNDERSTANDS. I set out enough disks to make TWO backups (fool that I am,
I just wasn't getting the whole point of redundancy on this Saturday
evening; if you're going up with one set of O-rings, it doesn't matter how
many packets of Tang you take along) as preparation for experimenting with
different ways of reformatting my hard disk. A little ways into backing up,
the program choked on a single file it couldn't grok, and quit. The file,
called .bout, probably was the invention of a wayward program of mine,
BUT YIKES!!!! WHAT IF THIS HAD HAPPENED TO ME WHILE RESTORING, AFTER I HAD
JUST FINISHED REFORMATTING????
If I weren't feeling pretty stupid about nearly discovering the
moral of this story the hard way, I would have some harsh words
for authors of this style of backup program. Unwittingly or wittingly,
they've decided to protect your data from any potential evil threat
EXCEPT the "infallible" software they've just written themselves.
DiskFit: DiskFit works differently from the above backup
programs. It treats a large number of floppies as a single unit, so you
can copy your entire hard disk onto the set (only via DiskFit) in FINDER
READABLE FORMAT. After you have done this once, subsequent backups simply
replace the files which have changed; this takes at most a few minutes each
session. You end up with a single, current copy of your hard disk. (Or two
or more current copies...) At any point in time, if sunspots selectively
wiped out all existing copies of DiskFit, recovering your data would simply
take you longer.
I have skipped many fine points (such as the fact that DiskFit GOES
ON to the rest of its work in case of a file error!) but I can recommend
DiskFit for two very basic reasons:
[1] DiskFit is deserving of the title "backup program", since its Finder
readable format means that in an actual emergency you wouldn't be depending
on a single piece of software remembering where it buried all its nuts.
[2] The subsequent backups are easy enough to actually do daily.
Be honest with yourself: With another brand of backup software,
could you ever imagine having months, or years, where you're just too busy
to do an hourlong complete backup? Could you imagine running out of floppies
for that 19th incremental backup of "just files that have changed?" Could
you imagine going a few months without backing up any but crucial files, as
a result? I could.
DiskFit's system makes more sense to me.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 87 18:49:56 SET
From: Norbert Mueller <K360171%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MAC2624 (HP-EMULATOR)
I RECENTLY READ A POSTING ASKING FOR HP-TERMINAL EMULATORS FOR THE MAC
(SORRY I DON'T REMEMBER WHOSE IT WAS). A FRIEND JUST SHOWED ME A PRODUCT
THAT SEEMS TO HIT THE SPOT. # MAC2624 # A HP BLOCK MODE TERMINAL EMULATOR.
IT SUPPORTS ALL FEATURES OF THE HP2624 TERMINAL INCLUDING FUNCTION KEYS AND
AND ESCAPE SEQUENCES. THERE IS A FILE TRANSFER FEATURE FOR HP-3000, AND VIA
STANDARD XMODEM (19200 BAUD), COPY/PASTE WORKS (THE MANUAL CLAIMS IT WORKS
WITH ALSO WITH GRAPHICS <MAC PAINT STYLE> I COULD NOT SEE A TEST OF THIS)
HOPE THIS IS USEFUL INFORMATION.
THE PRODUCT IS MARKETED BY
WICK HILL ASSOCIATES LIMITED
42A-44 HIGH STREET
EGHAM
SURREY TW20 9DP
U.K.
TELEX 268764 WHAUK G
PHONE (U.K.) 0784-38441
THE BEST THING: THEY GIVE YOU AN EVALUATION COPY, WHICH IS FULL FEATURED BUT
CEASES TO FUNCTION AFTER A MONTH. THAT IS REALLY WHAT I EXPECT IF I WANT TO
BUY AN EXPENSIVE PRODUCT (SORRY I DON'T KNOW A PRICE, AS I DO NOT USE HP
MYSELF)
I HOPE THIS IS USEFUL INFORMATION
NORBERT MUELLER
INST. OF CHEMISTRY
UNIVERSITY LINZ
A-4040 LINZ/AUSTRIA
P.S.: I AM IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH WICK HILL ASSOCIATES
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 87 03:29:41 cst
From: ihnp4!sask!andrew@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Derek Andrew)
Subject: TEK 4125 Emulator for Mac II
I am looking for a TEK 4125 emulator for the Mac II.
Has anyone seen such a beast?
Derek <Andrew@Sask.bitnet>
ihnp4!sask!andrew
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 87 09:11:17 CDT
From: seabaugh%resbld%ti-csl.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET
Subject: Paint-Ricoh Laser Printer-HP plotter
I would like to convert MacPaint files to print out on our local
laser printer, a Ricoh 4080 with OASYS Controller. Is there a
program like the paint-to-QMS file converter (macqms.c) available?
Another program which I would find useful is a program to either
emulate HPGL, so that Hewlett Packard plotter driver files could
be previewed, or convert HPGL files to MacPaint.
Is there software available to do this?
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 87 14:22:49 CDT
From: Dave Eichmann <eichmann%cs.uiowa.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Mac -> Unix -> LaserWriter
Our LaserWriter is now hung off of our 4.3bsd system, but I still want
to be able to print my MacWrite and MacDraw documents. I know about
Command-F and Command-K to save PostScript files with and without headers,
but neither of these generates *any* output when fed through the Vax to
the LaserWriter... Our archives (admittedly short-lived) contain only
a few references to previous postings. Could someone ship me the straight
poop on this?
Dave Eichmann NEW (domain) ADDRESS: eichmann@cs.uiowa.edu
Dept. of Comp. Sci. OLD ADDRESS: eichmann%uiowa@CSNET-RELAY
University of Iowa PHONE: (319) 335-1232
Iowa City, IA 52242
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Date: Fri 12 Jun 87 20:59:17-EDT
From: "Adam Peller" <OAF.G.PELLER%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Fonts
First of all, I must confess that I am a // user, and not a MacHacker.
BUT, I have been trying to get a collection of fonts together... I already
have several dozen stored on a bernouli 20 Meg cartridge. The problem is
that Microsoft Word only recognizes the first 15 or so. The others
are definately on the disk, but they don't show up in the %D font window.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam Peller (ADAMP@MC.MIT.EDU)
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 87 15:37:15 EST
From: "William E. Williams" <BSQUARE@YALEVM>
Subject: Graphics tablets - resolution
I'm interested in using a graphics tablet as input to a small application
I'm writing, and I can find no one in the area who has one hooked up to a Mac.
I have questions for anyone who has used such a tablet:
1. Normally, I understand, Mac tablets come with driver software that
makes applications think that the tablet is the mouse. That would suggest
that much of the resolution of the pad is lost. Is this true? Is there some
way to get at the full resolution of the pad?
2. What are the pro's and con's of the various pads available (Kurta and
Summagraphics are the two brands I know about)? If there is sufficient
interest, I'll summarize replies.
Bill Williams at Trinity College (BSQUARE@YALEVM)
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 87 17:25 ADT
From: Doug Toelle <FTDAT%ALASKA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Model 100 -> Mac
Being a "Cabin Hippie" (little cabin in the woods, no water or power) I use a
TRS-80 Model 100 for text editing at home, take it to work and dump it
to my MAC, I have a Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2 (3.5 inch 200K) and was
wondering if anyone knew of some software similiar to ProLink (Apple // ->
Mac file transfers) for Model 100 -> Mac transfers, messing with cables gets to
be a real drag.
Also, any other little kid type educators out there using the nets? I'd like
to hear from other computer using teachers.
Thanks,
Doug Toelle
Fairbanks Native Association FTDAT@ALASKA.Bitnet
310 First Ave.
Fairbanks, Alaska 99701
(907) 451-6201
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 87 16:14 CDT
From: FRENCH%eg.ti.com@RELAY.CS.NET
Subject: ?? Callable Interfaces to a database
Hi all,
Is there a Relational Database product for the Macintosh that supports
program callable interfaces from MPW Pascal?
This is a very common capability on mainframes, but I haven't heard of
this capability for the Mac.
Any help would be appreciated...
Stewart French
french@eg.ti.com or
french%ti-eg@relay.cs.net or
french%ti-eg@csnet-relay.arpa or
whatever-the-mailers-between-you-and-me-expect
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Date: Wed 10 Jun 87 04:21:48-CDT
From: Werner Uhrig <CMP.WERNER@R20.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Mac/SE/MacII was on PBS tonight for 30 minutes - Computer
Subject: Chronicles
I "lucked" into the last 20 minutes (my papers TV program covers PBS somewhat
"irregularly" ..) - they had both machines OPEN, taking boards in and out,
showing the Mac-II frisby demo, demo of color-MacPaint .... great!!!
I could not help but have a fantasy of INFO-MAC of the '90s, where we might
be able to contribute the bitstream representing such a program ...((-:!!
I can see it - Darin Adler demoing TMON ... talking about watching a wizard
in action !!! you get lost trying to follow what he does and says - if you
don't find a way to slow him down, you get left behind in the dust.
Or passing on the old Bill Atkinson video, demoing MacPaint ...
I don't usually watch Computer Chronicles as they tend to live in the IBM-world
- but after their reaction to the demo tonight, I expect that to change.
Of course, this weeks InfoWorld also has a Product Review of the Mac-II and
gave them a 9.0 !!! talking about landmark developments :-))
I expect you can catch a daytime repeat of the program with your video-recorder
this week or weekend.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 87 13:24 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN%sdr.slb.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #31
Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, June 7, 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 31
Today's Topics:
/gs keyboard for SE
RE: CricketDraw (2 messages)
Hello -- (5 messages)
re: WriteNow - need help w/Headers
remembering files
Coprocessor boards (2 messages)
RE: OpenCPort Trap (3 messages)
Edit LAYO to fix TMON
list manager (3 messages)
GetColor glue
Control Panel Bug?? (2 messages)
68020 cache (2 messages)
Re: System Event Mask
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