INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Moderator Dwayne Virnau...) (08/24/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Sunday, 23 Aug 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 112
Today's Topics:
Macintosh Sysops Conference 9/13/87
LaserWriter is to be discontinued?
Question on LaserWriter printing
LaserWriter PicComment Problem
Questions for LaserWriter Spooler
PostScript interpreter
Imagewriter II Printing
LW+ and 14 inch paper
Hot Tip: Knob for LaserWriter
Word 3.0 and LaserWriter
Equations on the Mac: TeX >>plus<<WYSIWYG (Message to MacEqn and Expressionist Developers)
Laser Spoolers
Driver for HP-laserjet?
Jetstart question
Mac/PC/IIGS ---> LaserWriter?
Printing Mac files from other computers?
Symbolics and Mac II's
IW-I on PC
Vax to MAC+ cables
Mac to VAX postscript transfer
Embarassment of Riches
Instructional Computing for the Mac
RE: MAC=>VAX transfers
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 87 15:21:37 PDT
From: Bernard Aboba <aboba@portia.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Macintosh Sysops Conference 9/13/87
ANNOUNCEMENT
First Annual Macintosh Sysop's Pow Wow
10AM -- 8 PM
Sunday, September 13, 1987
Stanford University Campus
The recent convergence of optical media and networking technology promise
to bring about a telecommunications revolution. The First Annual Macintosh
Sysop's Pow Wow, focusing on the theme "Building the Bulletin Board of
Tomorrow -- Today," will aim to show how sysops can put this technology to
use TODAY. The Pow Wow is open to all past and present sysops and
assistant sysops of BBS's serving the Macintosh community, whether the
board runs on a Macintosh or not.
As part of the Pow Wow, there will be a panel discussion entitled "Notable
Networks: FidoNet and USENET," featuring Tom Jennings, author of FidoNet
and winner of the Andrew Flugelman Award for shareware; Tim Pozar, author
of a FidoNet/USENET gateway; and Erik Fair, USENET administrator. There is
also an hour time slot reserved for vendor presentations, and it is
expected that vendors will preview upcoming product announcements and
discuss discount offers of interest to sysops. The Pow Wow will also
provide an opportunity for sysops to socialize, trade public domain and
shareware libraries, and share a potluck lunch and a restaurant dinner.
To obtain a registration form, send mail to:
aboba@portia.stanford.edu (ARPA-NET)
or 73057,1202 (CompuServe)
Completed registration forms are due by September 5, 1987, so please
get this out quickly!
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From: <MBORSETT%NUACC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter is to be discontinued?
InfoWorld reported on June 15 (yes, I'm only slowly catching up with my
reading [not as slowly as I'm catching up on mine. DoD]) that "Canon
USA recently told its OEMs that the CX engine ... will be discontinued".
Unknown is the exact date that CX production will halt. Apple had no
comment.
The LaserWriter is based on the (now obsolete) CX engine, like the old HP
LaserJet. HP has already migrated to the newer Canon engine (the SX) with the
LaserJet plus, and from the above it seems like Apple will be _forced_ to
adopt the SX engine sometime in the near future.
At the office I work for we are in the process of installing an AppleTalk/TOPS
2 based network with Macs and PCs, and we are going to buy a Laser Printer.
The decision on what laser printer and when to buy it is entirely up to me.
Right now I am leading towards buying a LW Plus, but what if Apple
discontinues it for an SX-based model in a month or two? I'd be ridiculized to
death.
Should I buy or should I wait?
Mike Borsetti
Northwestern University, Chicago, IL
Bitnet: mborsetti@nuacc.bitnet
MCI Mail: MBORSETTI
Telex: 6502526746 MCI UW
FidoNet: 115/729 (312-729-8768, member EchoMAC)
Voice: +1 312 492-8833 -- weekends 15:00 to 04:00 GMT, please!
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 87 18:34:54 PDT
From: Reo_Audette%SFU.Mailnet%UBC.MAILNET@MIT-Multics.ARPA
Subject: Question on LaserWriter printing
Does anyone out there know of a utility program or desk accessory
to print a file containing (in column 1) logical carriage control
characters (1,0,+,-,blank) on the Apple LaserWriter? Print
options such as portrait or landscape and type fonts and sizes
would be useful but are not required.
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 87 10:28:29 SET
From: guenther blaschek <K331671%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter PicComment Problem
I wrote a desk accessory for drawing MacDraw-like object oriented pictures.
My DA supports hairlines, but I have some problems switching the LaserWriter
back to normal. Here are the details:
TechNote #91 describes the PicComment 182 for setting the LaserWriter's
line width. It says that the line width is to be specified by a point p,
where p.v/p.h is multiplied by the pen size set by SetPen.
After drawing some objects with PenSize(1,1) and p.v=1, p.h=4 (i.e. plain
hairlines), the program should switch back to normal mode for lines of
"normal" width. I tried to issue a PicComment 182 again with p.v=p.h=1.
The effect: subsequent lines of width 1 are still drawn as hairlines, but
fatter lines (e.g. (2,2)) are drawn correctly.
During my experiments, I discovered a magic thing: drawing a (1,1) line
immediately after a hairline draws a hairline, but if i draw for example
a (2,2) line immediately after the hairline and t h e n a (1,1) line,
both lines are drawn properly. Note that the hairline mode was "switched off"
by a PicComment 182 in both cases. Strange, isn't it?
Now I had a good idea: After the PicComment with p.v=p.h=1, I tried first
SetPen(2,2) and then SetPen(1,1). The effect was the same, because the
LaserWriter (either the driver or the device) simply ignored the first
SetPen. After hacking around for a couple of days, i finally found a solution:
My DA does not print a picture itself, but rather allows the user to copy
it and paste it into another document (e.g. MacWrite). The drawing is
moved from the DA to the text processor as a PICTure via the Clipboard.
The only way to work around this problem is now to switch the hairline mode
off (PicComment 182), then SetPen(2,2), draw an invisible line somewhere
outside the picture frame, SetPen(1,1) and the draw a normal line.
Needless to say that I'm not very happy with this solution, because the
generated pictures tend to get rather big this way.
Is there an efficient solution for my problem? Maybe this is even worth a
further revision of TechNote #91 alias #72...
G.Bl.
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Date: 30 July 1987, 17:01:31 EDT
From: HERMAN at TECMTYVM
Subject: Questions for LaserWriter Spooler
This is my first posting so I hope it's right. Currently I am working on a
spooler for the LaserWriter and I can't find some information I need. Any
help will be appreciated.
What's needed to run in the foreground of AppleShare?
Where can I get the latest documentation about PostScript spooler comments?.
Currently I have the following Documents:
- Print Spooling on AppleTalk -- Architectural Specification.
Gursharan S. Sidhu. Apple Computer, Inc.
Draft 0.2 -- June 27, 1986.
- 1.1 PostScript Comments Summary
Aldus, 13 November 1986, John Nelson.
- APD Files: An Interchange Format for PostScript Printer Descriptions.
Adobe Systems, Inc.
Draft of 26 June 86.
but the new version of LW drivers (i.e. 4.0) does not follow these conventions.
Is anybody out there who can help me with this problem?. Apple?, Adobe?, Aldus?
Thanks in advance.
Herman Camarena.
Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey.
Monterrey, Mexico.
BITNET: HERMAN@TECMTYVM.BITNET
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Date: Tue 23 Jun 87 09:11:02-PDT
From: Craig Rasmussen <CER@STAR.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: PostScript interpreter
From time to time there has been a desire expressed for a PostScript
interpreter that would run on Macintosh. I recently had a graphics project
that I wanted to display on my Mac and PostScript seemed to be the best
vehicle. Inorder to complete the project I wrote an interpreter which treats a
very limited subset of the PostScript language. The subset includes: moveto,
rmoveto, lineto, rlineto, arc, translate, scale, setlinewidth, setgray,
scalefont, and show. If anyone is interested in the program or in the source
code (LSC) please let me know. If there is enough interest I will post a
binhex file.
One question I have after trying to implement the PostScript rotate command,
is, why doesn't QuickDraw have a rotation operator. My guess would be that
rotation needs floating point and would therefore be too slow. However, with
the Mac II and floating point processors this need not be a limitation. Does
anyone know if Apple has plans to add rotation to QuickDraw?
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 87 11:50:14 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi - Army Armt RD&E Center <tcora@ARDEC.ARPA>
Subject: Imagewriter II Printing
Has anyone besides myself noticed a problem printing on the Imagewriter II?
It seems that no matter what I try, or what application I am using, it is
simply impossible to print without page breaks. Typically, most of my print
jobs are text files created using Apple's Edit, and are source for MS Fortran.
I really have no need for the page breaks, they just waste paper and time.
I am currently using IW driver 2.5. Should I hunt around for an older release?
The DIP switches in the printer are set for 'perforation skip inactive'. Any
suggestions?
Regards,
tom c
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 87 02:19 EDT
From: <JRCLARK%UTKVX3.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: LW+ and 14 inch paper
Thanks to several who responded to my query on how to
print legal size paper using manual feed with LaserWriter 4.0.
Several people indicated that a legal paper tray was required, but
ANDERSEN <SIGURD@VAX1.ACS.UDEL.EDU> had the true solution. Who
even pays attention to the options button on the page setup, but,
if one selects "larger print area" all works fine as I confirmed
immediately after receiving this reply. Thanks again
Jim Clark
Dept. of Math/CS
U TN at Martin
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 87 14:55:44-1000
From: uhccux!uhmanoa!uhmanoa.ICS.HAWAII.EDU!david@nosc.mil (David
From: Lassner)
Subject: Hot Tip: Knob for LaserWriter
Do you use a LaserWriter in more than one operating
mode? If so, treat yourself to a knob for the mode
switch. Radio Shack part #274-403 fits like a champ.
2 knobs for $.79.
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 87 16:59:31 PDT
From: Janine Roeth <jar@portia.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Word 3.0 and LaserWriter
Does anyone have any information on the problem with Word 3.0 and
the Laserwriter that when you spool a job, the "no paper" light comes
on (yellow), but there is still paper in the LaserWriter?
I've seen this multiple times; I can neither identify a consistent
system or source of Word nor does it happen on only one LaserWriter.
We've established several "solutions": re-powering the LaserWriter,
reinstalling Microsoft Word (on hard disks), reinstalling printer
drivers. Obviously none of these are satisfactory.
Any clues????
thanks,
Janine Roeth, Stanford
jar@portia.stanford.edu
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Date: Fri 24 Jul 87 10:14:20-PDT
From: Tony Siegman <SIEGMAN@Sierra.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Equations on the Mac: TeX >>plus<<WYSIWYG (Message to MacEqn
Subject: and Expressionist Developers)
Those who have used TeX enough to become familiar with it -- which does
NOT require an arduous learning process -- appreciate the enormous
advantages of a coded format like TeX for equations and complex math (and
also for very long or complex documents); while those who have used any
friendly but powerful WYSIWYG editor like MacWrite or WriteNow understand
the enormous virtues of the WYSIWYG approach for many other aspects of
document preparation. What one would really like is somehow to have the
virtues of both, keeping in mind that:
1) Many of us are only occasional or intermittent users; whatever system
we use has to be simple and transparent so we don't forget how to use it
between sessions.
2) We really only want to learn the tricks of ONE complex system (e.g.,
TeX) -- we don't have time or memory to become power users of TeX, AND
MacEqn, AND Expressionist, AND ...
The optimum solution, I believe, would be a "mini-TeX" DA which provides
about the capabilities of MacEqn or Expressionist, >>but does it using a
subset of TeX as the input mechanism<<.
That is, a subset of TeX limited to the same mathematical constructs in
MacEqn or Expressionist (which one can already see are very close to TeX
in their logical structure), and capable of handling only one mathematical
expression, or one display equation, at a time.
The person who knows and uses TexTures for larger-scale documents, but
prefers MacWrite or WriteNow for simple documents, can then enter an
equation or a mathematical expression in a MacWrite document by pulling
down the mini-TeX DA; entering the expression in TeX format; having
mini-TeX process it into WYSIWYG form (maybe putting the output on the
Clipboard); and then pasting it into the MacWrite or WriteNow document,
just as one does with MacEqn or Expressionist.
If the TeX source can somehow be kept with the MacWrite document, in some
invisible form, that would be even more insanely great. One could, if
necessary, later convert the entire MacWrite document to a TeX source
document; or one could do global editing of the equations (i.e., Change
"\alpha" to "\alpha_0" in every expression in the document, with a single
command).
Message to MacEqn and Expressionist developers: I like the way your
products work; but I HAVE to stick with TeX as the one complex system I'm
going to learn and use (because there are complex things I can only do with
it). How about combining all the thought and conceptual genius and
world-wide use of TeX with the great usefulness of your systems???
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 87 14:05:06 edt
From: LARRAGA <larry@pyr1.acs.udel.edu>
Subject: Laser Spoolers
We just received Apple's LaserShare Print Spooler recently. We've had it on
order since February. In the meantime, we tried almost every one of the other
spoolers available on the market. Here are our comparison results:
AppleShare network - 7 users
Macintosh II Hard Drive 40SC File Server, 2 Mb RAM
File Server is also Intermail Server
Macintosh SE Dual Drive w/External Hard Disk 20SC Node
Laserwriter Driver 4.0
Non-spooled printing Time to free up Mac Time to print
Slower bitmap - no 4% reduction 6:30 8:17
Faster bitmap - w/4% reduction 1:09
Slower bitmap - w/4% reduction 1:03
Spooled Printing
Vendor Product Ver Time to spool Time to print
No. (Min:Sec) (Min:Sec)
Think LaserSpeed 1.5 0:14 2:18
SuperMac SuperLaserSpool 1.0 0:06 2:08
Infosphere LaserServe 1.3 0:24 2:26
Apple LaserShare 1.0 0:15 2:07
While LaserShare is good at getting the spool data off of your
machine and on to the server, it lacks all the bells and whistles
of the other programs; features that we have grown accustomed to
in our shared printer environment. We feel LaserServe and Laser
Speed's messages for manual feed media insertion and finish of job
are great timesavers. Our farthest node is a good 200' down a hall
and through 3 doorways. Having LaserShare set off an out of paper
warning alarm in the server closet is no help at all. Ditto for
any error messages warning that something went wrong with your print job.
LaserShare just does NOT inform the user at his node about anything
at all. SuperLaserSpool is extremely fast at spooling, but the
version we had randomly schmooshed text together in MacWrite
documents.
All in all we like LaserShare. But we're hoping some AppleTalk hacker will
pickup the ball with an INIT or something that would give the printer
status at the user nodes when applicable.
Larry Larraga
Ron Nichols
University of Delaware
Microcomputing Resource Center
152 Newark Hall
Newark, DE 19716
(302) 451-6782
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 87 13:26:39 +0200
From: Ole Solberg <O_Solberg%VAX.RUNIT.UNIT.UniNett@NTA-VAX.ARPA>
Subject: Driver for HP-laserjet?
Does anyone know if there exist driver(s) for the HP-laserjet
(and compatibles) for Mac?
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Date: Fri 24 Jul 87 19:15:47-PDT
From: David Liu <DLIU@Sierra.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Jetstart question
I have connected a QuietJet (HP printer, relative of the ThinkJet, only wider)
to my Mac+. With JetStart from SoftStyle, it worked very well and much
more quiet than the Imagewriter I or II. The only problem is that Mockwrite
and MockPrint does not work.
I have called the people in JetStart in Hawaii and asked about it. They are
friendly, patient and tried to help me. It is possible that the Mock's were
done in 'non-standard print', according to the SoftStyle people that it
failed to work together with JetStart.
I have also tried to use the SuperMac print spooler and it seems to be not
compatible with my JetStart and HP printer.
I have a XP-20 from Dataframe. Anyone out there has a hybrid system as I
have and experienced similar problems?
David Liu, DLIU@SIERRA-STANFORD.EDU
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Date: Tue 30 Jun 87 16:48:34-PDT
From: Marvin Zauderer <ZAUDERER@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Mac/PC/IIGS ---> LaserWriter?
Hi all:
I'd love to network all the PC's, Macs, and IIGS's in my office
together, such that each machine could direct output to a (shared)
LaserWriter. (Never mind file servers for now....) I realize that there's
been much discussion here about networking PC's and Macs, but I don't
recall any mention of IIGS's. Anyone know if it's possible to add IIGS's
to the chaos? I know the GS has Appletalk, so it would seem possible. Any
recommendations or ideas are welcome, including a summary of the verdicts
on the various PC/Mac/LaserWriter networking software packages.
Thanks,
Marvin Zauderer (Zauderer@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU)
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 87 11:06:40 jdt
From: Shmuel Browns <shmuli%humus.huji.ac.il@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Printing Mac files from other computers?
We have a couple of PostScript laser printers connected via RS-232 lines to
a VAX running 4.3BSD Unix. We can connect the Mac as a terminal to Unix and
transfer the files using XMODEM. Does anyone know of a way to print the
Macintosh files, e.g. from MacWrite/Draw, from Unix?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Date: Thu 9 Jul 87 17:23:08-CDT
From: John Lawler <J.AITJLAW@chip.uchicago>
Subject: Symbolics and Mac II's
We have three Symbolics LISP machines here at AA&Co., and we've just
ordered a laser printer for them, specifically the Apple LaserWriter Plus.
We are also hoping that our two Mac II's will arrive shortly. What I was
wondering was if anyone knew if all these machines could share the printer
at the same time? If so, how and what is the easiest and cheapest method
for doing so? Any help from people who've done this would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.
John Lawler
John E. Lawler
Arthur Andersen & Co.
Artificial Intelligence Group
33 W. Monroe St.
Chicago, IL 60603 MoneyNet: (312) 507-5353
CSNET : j.aitjlaw@chip.uchicago
Internet: jlawler%oz.ai.mit.edu@xx.lcs.mit.edu
Delphi : JLAWLER
"If the Russians get their hands on this, it's curtains for the free world."
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Date: 5 Aug 87 10:15-EST
From: "R.Rasulis" <smggyuc%BOSTONU.bitnet@wiscvm.arpa>
Subject: IW-I on PC
This may sound perverted, but I'm serious: Has anyone had any luck connecting
an Imagewriter I to a PC? What were the results. I'm using MS-WORD 3.0 (ala
IBM), which comes w/ tons of printer drivers, including the Apple LaserWriter.
I'm interested in using the Imagewriter w/ WORD. Any luck, anyone?
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Date: Thu 25 Jun 87 08:53:21-PDT
From: MARYOTT@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA
Subject: Vax to MAC+ cables
could someone out there please send a cableing diagram for going from a
VAX to a MAC +. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
THANXS. Bryce Maryott
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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 87 14:05 EDT
From: Jeff DeLisio <DELISIO%cs.umass.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Mac to VAX postscript transfer
Our research group recently acquired a Mac SE, primarily for creating
graphics. We would like to print these on a DEC laser printer which
accepts Postscript input. I believe this has been discussed in Info-Mac
previously and everyone here seems to remember hearing of a way - but none
that work. The current scheme is to *pretend* to print the file to an apple
laser but *capture* the output in its Postscript form while in the dialogue
box (with some key sequence). We would then transfer that via Red Ryder's
Kermit to our VMS VAX network. (I also understand we need to insert LF's
after CR's for the VAX as the Mac doesn't). If anyone has done this
procedure (or perhaps a more direct or elegant one) with success could they
please let me know. Send replies to me directly and I will gladly summarize
for the net. One additional problem is that our site (UMASS) does not have
FTP over APANET yet so we can't load any files off the Archives. SO if have
any handy utilities you'd be willing to share they would have to be Emailed
to us.
Thanking all in advance for this and other info gleamed off this net.
Jeff DeLisio ( sorry for all the ('s I program in LISP...)
arpa: DeLisio@cs.umass.edu
Bell: (413) 545-3616
Hardcopy: c/o Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Experimental Knowledge Systems Lab
Graduate Research Center
U. of Ma.
Amherst, Ma. 01003
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 87 20:47 ADT
From: <SYAPPLE%ALASKA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Embarassment of Riches
It looks like this: currently, I teach some classes on a network of
12-18 Macs 512e(nlarged?)'s, which are served (at an agonizingly slow
pace) by one 20-meg hard disk with MacServe.
Yesterday, while rummaging through a dusty old budget here at the
College, I found one, brand-spanking new, unused, three-year old
MicroVAX I. Never even taken out of it's box.
"Huh," I said. Pulling thoughtfully at my lower lip, I asked myself
the very same question most of you would have asked:
"What can this brand new $4,000 minicomputer do for my Macs?"
Well? I ask you. Does anybody out there have an expensive mini doing
fileserving service for their cheap microcomputers? Where can I get
info/hardware for using this mini to serve/connect either of my micro-labs?
What kind of hardware will I need? Does anybody out there have a
similar set up?
Incidentally, am I wasting this box? Without spending the bucks for
hardware that will allow more than four users, is there something useful
one can do with a MicroVAX I? How pissed off should the other departments
become when they discover what I'm doing?
Use it or lose it...
JOE KENNEBEC
GFJAK@ALASKA.BITNET
"Eyeing *your* budget, too..."
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 87 10:04:04 cdt
From: "Beaver,John C" <BEAVERJ%GRIN1.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
Subject: Instructional Computing for the Mac
Those on the hill here at Grinnell College have finally decided to put the
Macs they already have to some use. According to the grant from Apple that
brought them here, they are to be used for \instructional computing/. (Not
a small topic.)
We have about 20 Macs on two AppleTalk networks, 2 AppleTalk ImageWriters,
and moderately difficult but possible access to a LaserWriter. There is a
4 member VAXcluster providing heavier-duty computing, about 200 DEC
Rainbows, a network of Sun workstations arriving any day now, a few other
micros (IBM, Apple II and Tandy), and a strong desire to encourage their
use by students, faculty and administration. But as yet, aside from the
nebulous grant requirement, there isn't much thought given to the Macs.
I would like to find out what other colleges and universities are doing
with their Macs. How do you have them networked? How do you link them to
your other computers (especially VAXes)? What major applications are being
run? Chemistry? Math? Physics? Music? Foreign languages? How do you
control the network? How do you distribute software and see to it that
everybody uses the appropriate versions where that makes a difference? Have
you had problems with licensing or have you found an innovative solution to
the problem? The college, unfortunately, has decided that general word
processing does NOT fall into the category of instructional computing, so
I'll have to dig a little deeper for applications.
I realize that this is a rather major topic, but it would be very helpful
to me and to Grinnell College to get our Mac program off the launching pad
quickly. There could also be large insight and understanding gained here.
If I could trouble you to respond to me directly, I would appreciate ti
greatly and will post a summary of your doings and my findings in a couple
weeks.
Thanks in advance.
John Beaver
Programmer
Grinnell College
Grinnell, Iowa 50112 USA
BEAVERJ@GRIN1.BITNET
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Date: 22 Jun 87 09:55:06 EDT
From: CES00661@UDACSVM
Subject: RE: MAC=>VAX transfers
The documentation I have for Kermit (V0.8(31)) and the Kermit I use which
is V0.8(34) describe the MODE option on send/receive as being either TEXT or
BINARY. In Binary, things get sent as-is, in TEXT, Kermit adds the LF after
the CR for the file being sent. The Kermit standard is that 'lines' of text
end in a CR-LF pair, so it is natural that he add them when sending a TEXT mode
file. In fact, to some machines using fixed length records, the CR-LF gets
stripped completely and the record padded out to blanks for the size of the
record.
I've used Kermit to send to machines like this and as long as I set
mode to TEXT he works like a champ. And it's simpler than having to zap the
file with another prog/DA before sending.
Bob
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