Moderators.David.Gelphman@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU, Dwayne.Virnau@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU, Lance.Nakata@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (09/29/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Monday, 28 Sep 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 117
Today's Topics:
Re: C++
32K limit, Tech notes, etc.
Lightspeed Pascal 1.11a Upgrade
Changes to the MacBinary standard
HYPERCARD-BIRDINFO.HQX
Servant 0.951
ResTools 2.01
Cache XFCN
Karnaugh
SoftDisk
Reminder 1.01
Super Paint upgrade patch
Describe (Proper Version)
SCSI Formatter/Installer (Using an Atari hard disk with a Macintosh)
DA's from Mosaic Codes
Questions: System 4.1, Mac II memory, Super Laser Spool
IW II Page Break
BREAK DA
_Re-setting serial ports
MacTerminal & VMS
PCB Layout/Design Software for Mac SE/II ?
QUERY: Cutting Edge 30 meg scsi
emacs for the mac?
GKS
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 87 14:21:26 pdt
From: Larry Rosenstein <lsr%apple.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Re: C++
In article <8708091412.AA15830@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> you write:
>
>From: PEABO
>Subject: RE: Object-oriented C (Re: Msg 1953)
>Date: 4-AUG-11:57: Tools for Developers
>
>Any idea how they are going to resolve the difference between C++ using
>pointers and the Mac using Handles? I count that as the number one
>stumbling block ...
We are adding an extension to C++ to handle this. There will be a built-in
object type called indirect. Any object that is descendant from indirect
will be allocated as a handle and will use the Object Pascal method call
dispatcher. Object not descended from indirect will be allocated as pointer
and use the standard C++ dispatcher.
Larry Rosenstein
Object Specialist
Apple Computer
AppleLink: Rosenstein1
UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr
CSNET: lsr@Apple.com
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Date: 12 Aug 87 20:33:00 EDT
From: <brun@nrl-lcp.arpa>
Subject: 32K limit, Tech notes, etc.
I'm merely an amateur at developing programs on the Mac, and have run into
what are evidently fairly well-known problems. Unfortunately, they're not
that well-known to ME, and they've stalled me pretty effectively. I'm writing
an application using LIGHTSPEED PASCAL, and I've run up against the famous
32K limit. Every time I run my program, it crashes; and I can't test it
from within LSP, thanks to the limit. Obviously, the 32K is mostly made up of
various datastructures, etc. The question is, how can I allocate space for my
arrays and records without running afoul of this cursed limit? Details will
be greatly appreciated.
Also, while I'm writing, where is the Graveyard of Old Tech Notes? I've looked
on SUMEX, and I found only one set of them. Where are the rest hiding? Some
of them could be quite useful to me. Thanks a lot.
Todd Brun
Laboratory for Computational Physics
Naval Research Laboratory
Washington, D.C.
brun@nrl-lcp.arpa
Disclaimer: What have I got to disclaim?
[ note from moderator: The archives have more than one 'batch' of
technotes. Some of them are TECHNOTE-..., but most are TN-...
A surefire way to obtain ALL the Macintosh Technotes is from APDA. They
offer the notes from the very beginning at $25@year. DAVEG ]
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 87 12:12:39 EDT
From: singer@harvard.harvard.edu (Andrew Singer)
Subject: Lightspeed Pascal 1.11a Upgrade
This is a compressed Packit file that contains a patcher program that
upgrades THINK's Lightspeed Pascal 1.0 to version 1.11a.
Version 1.11a provides support for users of the Mac II and any Mac hardware
running system 4.1. LSP will now run on the II and these new system files.
Also included with the patcher are a new version of MacTraps, additional
libraries, and a set of interface files that provide temporary support for
Inside Mac Volume 5.
This patcher is distributed here and on other online services at no charge
by THINK Technologies, Inc. It is also available directly from THINK on
floppy disk for $10 to cover shipping and handling. To order contact THINK
customer support at the address or number below.
The contents of this upgrade are copyright 1987 by THINK Technologies, Inc.
We give permission for registered owners of THINK's Lightspeed Pascal to
copy and use it. We also give permission for all to distribute this upgrade
to other registered LSP owners. Lightspeed is a trademark of Lightspeed,
Inc. and is used with its permission.
Jack Hodgson
Product Manager
THINK Technologies, Inc.
135 South Rd.
Bedford, MA 01730
617-275-4800
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 87 11:08:22 PDT
From: dplatt@teknowledge-vaxc.arpa (Dave Platt)
Subject: Changes to the MacBinary standard
The following text describes some proposed enhancements to the
MacBinary file-transmission standard; authors of terminal emulators
and file-transfer utilities should be aware of the changes so that
their implementations of MacBinary will remain up-to-date.
A new version (2.0) of FreeTerm has been implemented to support the
new flavor of MacBinary. As soon as I get a chance, I'll download it
from my local BBS and post it to Info-Mac for distribution.
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 87 21:33 CDT
From: <MYERS%WISCMACC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HYPERCARD-BIRDINFO.HQX
The following is a HyperCard stack for bird watchers in North
America who also happen to own a Macintosh and HyperCard
(probably quite a small set of individuals). It is essentially
a database of species that one has some likelihood of seeing
in North America, to which one can attach notes and check off
those one has seen.
Non-birders who want a "real" database of about 800 cards to
play with may also be interested in this stack.
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 87 17:37:33 CDT
From: Henrik Sorensen <hvs@rice.edu>
Subject: Servant 0.951
Here is Servant version 0.951 - Andy Hertzfelds alternative to multifinder
and switcher. This version, unlike previous versions, does not have an
expiration date and has all the functions of the regular finder. Besides
that it has limited resource editing facilities.
Have fun. Henrik Sorensen, Rice University
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 87 10:27:28 -0400
From: Alan Dahlbom <adahlbom@PARK-STREET.BBN.COM>
Subject: ResTools 2.01
A number of people pointed out some small problems in ResTools 2.00.
This release fixes them and adds support for a couple of new
resources (nrct & mach). ResTools is a resource compiler and decompiler
that uses a syntax close to that used by rez and derez. Free.
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 87 13:14 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN%sdr.slb.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Cache XFCN
[ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ]
Name: CACHE XFCN
Date: 14-SEP-1987 03:16 by DEWI
Those of you designing minifinder Hypercard stacks on the Mac II might find
this useful. It's a XFCN external function for controlling the 68020's cache -
setting it on and off, and finding out its status. It's all wrapped up in a
demo stack, and comes with Lightspeed C source.
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 87 13:15 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN%sdr.slb.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Karnaugh
[ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ]
Name: KARNAUGH
Date: 13-SEP-1987 20:10 by ESROG
Do you know what a Karnaugh map is? if so you will really like this file. If
not, but you are interested in digital circuits or mathematics or logic,
download and check it out anyway. Written by the great
Udi Pardo of Drexel University. Isn't it great to see something new that isn't
a "stack"?
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 87 13:15 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN%sdr.slb.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: SoftDisk
[ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ]
Name: SOFTDISK 1.1
Date: 11-SEP-1987 03:44 by URLICHS
This is version 1.1 of my Shareware hard disk partitioning program, "SoftDisk".
Major bugs fixed. Please READ THE DOC before submitting this package anywhere
else!
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Date: Thu 17 Sep 87 09:37:44-EDT
From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR>
Subject: Reminder 1.01
[ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ]
Name: REMINDER 1.01
Date: 16-SEP-1987 20:26 by BOBPATIN
Reminder 1.01 displays a reminder message upon bootup; designed to be invisible
when you have no message to be displayed. Shareware.
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 87 16:41:12 PDT
From: preese%dewey.SOE.Berkeley.EDU@jade.berkeley.edu (Phil Reese)
Subject: Super Paint upgrade patch
Enclosed is a file that will upgrade Super Paint to version 1.0p. This is
mostly to make Super Paint compatible with the new LaserWriter Drivers in
the latest system release (Version 5.5 of Finder and System 4.1). This patch
comes from Silicon Beach and includes some documentation.
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 87 10:57:16 EDT
From: singer@harvard.harvard.edu (Andrew Singer)
Subject: Describe (Proper Version)
This BinHex file contains a copy of "Describe", which describes the
current system configuration, including machine type, CPU type,
system software versions, memory size and allocation, and connected
disk drives.
Rich
**Note: The opinions (if any) contained herein do not represent in any way
the policies of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc.)
Richard Siegel
Customer Support Representative
THINK Technologies, Inc.
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 87 12:36 N
From: Thomas Fruin <FRUIN%HLERUL5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: SCSI Formatter/Installer (Using an Atari hard disk with a
Subject: Macintosh)
Ephraim Vishniac's SCSI Formatter and Installer
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Date: Wed 23 Sep 87 13:21:21-PDT
From: Dwayne Virnau... <D.DragonOfDarkness@OTHELLO.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: DA's from Mosaic Codes
I recently received an update disk from Mosaic Codes with the following
DA's and related files. I must say, these people really give you the
most for your $5 !!
Dwayne Virnau...
satisfied customer
The following is taken from the documentation on the disk:
>Gentlefolk,
>On this disk, in addition to Menu Clock and Calendar, are four lesser desk
>accessories that I wish to share with you.
>
>1.) Sleeper puts a pretty pattern up on the Mac screen. I leave my Mac on
> all the time, so I use Sleeper to prevent burning the picture of the menu
> bar into the phosphor of the Mac's picture tube. Like other desk
> accessories, Sleeper runs when you select it from the apple menu. To stop
> it, just click the mouse.
>
>2.) Stars also puts a pretty pattern up on the Mac screen. Type a small
> number (like a) for a hyperspace jump to a space with few stars, a large
> one (like g) for a hyperspace jump to a space with many stars. Stars
> remembers your setting. Stars does a smooth transition from the desktop to
> the starfield when you start it, and a sharp, fast transition from the
> starfield back to the desk top when you stop it. You stop it by either
> clicking the mouse or holding down the command key while typing a character.
> Typing a digit from 5 to 9 gives you increasing forward speed. From 4 to 0
> gives you decreasing backward speed. If you use Smart Alarms, the reminder
> software sold by Imagine Software, you will find that Smart Alarms holds
> its tongue until you put Stars away, but if you are running Sleeper or
> Melter, Smart Alarms puts up its messages on top of them.
>
>Stars is now compatible with large screen displays, including the MacII.
>
>3.) Melter is also a desk accessory that darkens the screen. This one does
> it by an animation of the Macintosh screen melting. To stop it, just click
> the mouse.
>
>4.) Wind*ws is for manipulating a screen full of windows. The Finder,
> MacDraw, Microsoft Word, and many other programs allow you to have many big
> windows. Often, you can't easily get at the one you want. Wind*ws puts up
> a menu of all the windows on the screen. The windows are listed in the
> Wind*ws menu in alphabetical order. If some windows have the same name
> (RUntitledS, for example), the one deeper on the screen is lower on the
> menu. Windows with names that start with R-S are now handled correctly.
>
>Stars, Sleeper and Wind*ws are all written by me. They may be freely
>redistributed by you so long as my copyright notice remains intact. Sleeper
>and Melter are in the public domain. I give you the source code for any
>use you choose.
>
>These programs have been tested and run without problems on the 128k Mac,
>the MacXL, the 512k Mac, the Enhanced 512K Mac, and the MacPlus. I would
>like to hear of any problems, and I would like suggestions for
>improvements. Although I believe this software to be bug free, I do not
>accept any liability for damage resulting from its use. I use these every
>day. I hope you like them too.
>
>David Oster,
>Software Contractor
>Mosaic Codes
>Suite 2036
>2140 Shattuck Ave.
>Berkeley, Ca. 94704
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Date: Friday, 14 Aug 87 20:30:00 EDT
From: <hamm@biovax.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Questions: System 4.1, Mac II memory, Super Laser Spool
I have a few questions for all you Mac wizards:
1) Up to now, I've held off on installing System 4.1, etc., because there
was considerable discussion of problems with it, and I had no pressing
need for it. Now I have a product which requires it. Could someone
please summarize the current status of the 4.1 problems?
2) I know very little about the hardware architecture of Macs. I recently
read an article which said something about the Mac II not being able to
support "more than one megabyte per card". The implication seemed to be
that this was not a limitiation under A/UX, but is for the Mac's OS.
Can someone elaborate? Does this mean that all the wonderful expansion
boards (e.g. National's for up to 16MB) will be useless except for A/UX?
3) I recently downloaded Super Laser Spool version 1.01 df (I have an
XP-40). It worked pretty well at first, but as I was printing something
from Excel, first everything froze [i.e., I could move the cursor around,
but the Mac didn't respond to clicking on anything], then woke up for a
second or two, and then my Mac crashed. I've had this happen several
times now. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a workaround [aside from
"don't use SLS"] or a new version?
Thanks for the help.
Greg
Greg H. Hamm || Phone: (201)932-4864
Director, Molecular Biology Computing Lab ||
Waksman Institute/NJ CABM || BITNET: hamm@biovax
P.O. Box 759, Rutgers University || ARPA: hamm@biovax.rutgers.edu
Piscataway, NJ 08854 * USA ||
[ note from moderator: I've had great success with SuperLaserSpool
from SuperMac. Note that you should definately visit your dealer and obtain
the latest version (at least 1.1, rumored that 1.2 is available). The later
versions work great and are worth the trip to upgrade! DAVEG ]
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 87 10:07:28 EDT
From: tom coradeschi <tcora@ARDEC.ARPA>
Subject: IW II Page Break
Has anyone besides myself noticed a problem printing on the Imagewriter II?
It seems that no matter what I try, or what application I am using, it is
simply impossible to print without page breaks. Typically, most of my print
jobs are text files created using Apple's Edit, and are source for MS Fortran.
I really have no need for the page breaks, they just waste paper and time.
I am currently using IW driver 2.5. Should I hunt around for an older release?
The DIP switches in the printer are set for 'perforation skip inactive'. Any
suggestions?
Regards,
tom c
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 87 11:05:30 EST
From: MP14STAF%MIAMIU.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: BREAK DA
I am looking for a DA that will send a break signal out one of the serial
ports of my MAC+. The dataswitch that connects my Mac to the different
mainframes here expects a break to get its attention. Kermit and Red Ryder
are the only packages I've found so far that support the break signal.
I have virtually no Mac programming experience, so there is little chance that
I could construct the DA. I would like to be able to use Grafterm, but I need
to get to the mainframe. Thanks in Advance.
Mark Powers MP14STAF at MIAMIU (BITNET)
MA BELL 513-529-6226
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 87 15:36:16 ECT
From: FALK%NORUNIT.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: _Re-setting serial ports
HELP!
can somebody help me on this subject.
When opening the communication part in JAZZ, I get the message "Both serial por
ts in use". The problem is that quitting Mac-Terminal do not reset the serial
(Phone port).I would like to open JAZZ without resetting the serial port.
I assume that my wishes can be difficult to achieve, but there is maybe an
FKey or a utility that resets the phone-port.
Thanks in advance !!!!!!
Christian :-)
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From: Paul Skuce
From: <sdcsvax!seismo!mcvax!hatfield.ac.uk!comtps@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 87 08:54:11 GMT
Subject: MacTerminal & VMS
PLEASE could someone help. WE will be getting a VAX8650 soon to run VMS soon.
Currently we use Macput/get on our current 8650 using ULTRIX (UNIX). As the
staff use MacTerminal now it would be nice to continue to use it on VMS.
So what I am asking the fellow mac lovers out there is:
Is there a copy of Macput/get for VMS and can some one mail me a copy or
a PD version of an XMODEM file transfer for VMS.
I am sorry I know very little VMS or programing so surgestion about modifing
sources may not help.
Thanks in advance
BTW we pay the trans-atlantic cost.
Regards
Paul Skuce
Hatfield Polytechnic, School Information Science, P.O. box109
College Lane, Hatfield, England, AL10 9AB
comtps%hatfield.ac.uk%mcvax%seismo%.. from States
comtps%hatfield.ac.uk%mcvax%.. From Eur
comtps@hatfield.ac.uk JANET
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 87 15:07 N
From: <SCCS6037%IRUCCVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: PCB Layout/Design Software for Mac SE/II ?
The Intel-oriented microprocessor lab here at UCC has just
recently gotten its grubby mitts on a Mac SE with 20 MB HD. It's
being used mainly for wordprocessing at the moment, and Tom The
Technician wants some info on PCB Layout/Design. He is currently
looking at a number of IBM PC packages, grotty and all as they
are (notably smARTWORK and hiWIRE from WinTek). He (stout fellow)
is quite interested in the idea of dumping the PC-based approach
in favour of a Mac SE (or a Mac II; we're getting one shortly!)
setup. Of course, I'm all for that! BUT ...
All our (feeble) efforts to find any PCB Layout/Design software
has come to nought. So, if anyone knows of any Mac-based PCB stuff,
would they please respond to me via email, or, if you no-speaka-bitnet,
then (if the moderator doesn't mind), via the pages of this
outstandingly august journal (I hope flattery works). Please include
details of prices, advertisements, features, and ease of use, etc.
If the response is good enough (> 3), I'll post a summary back to the net.
If the response comes to nought, it'll have to be on a grotty PC after
all, and I'll never hear the end of it ("Huh! The Mac's just a toy!
A glorified wordprocessor!..."). So [italics/bold] please, even if its
just a fifth-hand rumour you've heard, let me know.
If it's of any use to you, our equipment includes:
1 MB Mac SE
2 MB Mac II (eventually, and the sooner the better!)
LaserWriter+
ImageWriter II, etc.
We also have [Calcomp] plotters if that's not a heresy.
Thanks in advance,
Turlough.
+----------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| BITNET: SCCS6037@IRUCCVAX | SNAIL MAIL: Turlough O'Connor, |
| | Computer Sc. Dept, |
+============================+ University College, |
| D0 beats (E)AX every time! | Cork, |
| (Anyone remember AIBMUGO?) | Ireland. |
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 87 11:35:49 IST
From: Ami Zakai <RPR1ZAK%TECHNION.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: QUERY: Cutting Edge 30 meg scsi
Going through one of the paper MAC magazines I encountered an add for a 30meg
scsi HD from Cutting Edge for 599$. Since I am currently looking for a hard
drive it looked very tempting.. anybody out there has experiance with this
animal? They claim to be very fast (dont they all) very quiet (being fanless?!)
and give a one year warranty and a 10 day tryout.
Naturaly I have no affilation with that company but for the interested parties
they are :
Cutting Edge, 1156 Fowler Drive, North Glenn, CO 80233 . 1-800-443-5199
All info (direct or to this forum) will be most welcome..
--Zak
'now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same
place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run atleast twice as fast
as that.' /TtLG
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 87 11:01:52 PDT
From: MikeDixon.pa@Xerox.COM
Subject: emacs for the mac?
are there any good versions of emacs for the mac? (i know about micro
emacs; i'm looking for something faster & more complete)
.mike.
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 87 16:58:59 edt
From: jepeway@UTKCS2.CS.UTK.EDU (Chris Jepeway)
Subject: GKS
Is there GKS for any incarnation of the Mac??
C. Jepeway
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