INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Moderators Dwayne Virnau... and Lance Nakata) (12/20/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Sunday, 20 Dec 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 146 Today's Topics: HAPPY HOLIDAYS !! Fortran Bugs in 2.3 MacFortran 020 C compilers for Cross System developement Shutdown from within hypercard Weirdness with DA menu! Background Printing on the ImageWriter... Re: generating PostScript output Apprent bug in MacDraw 1.95 or in ImageWriter driver (2.6) LightspeedC Libraries version 2.15, in 2 parts Peg Puzzle Pak 1.0 Shepard Tones HD Runner 1.4 (in 3 parts) Sound Mover Package JClock INIT How to structure a hard disk's desktop (Idea) Graftech (in 2 parts) Christmas Carol Stack ScrapSavers Re: Mactivation Foreign Language spell checkers Alarming options Package wanted to interpret mark-sense forms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Dec 87 20:39:03 PST From: Dwayne Virnau... <INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> Subject: HAPPY HOLIDAYS !! A NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR: INFO-MAC will be going into hibernation for two weeks while we poor moderator types take time off for the holidays. Look for the stunning appearance of Volume 6 #001 in about two weeks. In the meantime, please don't send large files -- I won't be here to process them and my mail file will almost certainly explode. Also, realize that I won't be here to answer INFO-MAC mail, so expect a delay in any responses. And to all of you chuckling that you won't even notice the difference, shame on you !! %:{) HAPPY HOLIDAYS !! Dwayne Virnau... (DoD) ------------------------------ Date: 16 Dec 87 12:33:00 EST From: <bouldin@ceee-sed.arpa> Subject: Fortran Bugs in 2.3 MacFortran 020 Just when you thought it might be safe to use Absoft/Microsoft Fortran.... Here are 3 new bugs, two of them quite serious: 1. The ENTRY statement is not supported as specified by ANSI standard. Basically, all ENTRY points in a given subroutine must have the same number and type of arguments. This is NOT listed in the appendix that lists departures from the standard, it is NOT flagged during compilation. The code compiles and runs, it just runs incorrectly. How thoughtful. There are several work-arounds. My suggestion is just to break everything up into separate modules. Ugh. 2. Code like this: DO 10 I=1,NBLK L=MIN(I*128,NW) 10 WRITE(IOUNIT,rec=I+PRU-1)(ARRAY(J),J=I*128-127,L) Will almost certainly run wrong. The external do loop and the implied do in the WRITE statement get in each others way. The external do is ALWAYS executed only ONCE, regardless of the value of NBLK. Double plus ungood. Solution: terminate the do loop with a CONTINUE statement. 3. The linker, while much improved, has a bug writing out the linked program. There is an error in the use of PBRename, so you can only output a linked file to the *same* directory as that in which the linker resides. It does work, but this is a nuisance. Hope this stuff saves someone else all the frustration that I have been thru over the past few days tracking this stuff down. We sure could use some more vendors of Fortran compilers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 01:09:39 IST From: YOSSIE SILVERMAN <RPR1YOS%TECHNION.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: C compilers for Cross System developement Has anyone heard of a C compiler that runs on the Mac that will generate a standard (if there is such a standard) Object format suitable to be transfered to a 68000-on-a-board computer such as a VME-BUS compatible board. Basically I am looking for a C compiler and/or an Assemler that would output such a file which could then be downloaded via the boards monitor into the boards memory. Obviously I require *NO* Macintosh system support since the target machine is *NOT* a macintosh. If such a creature does infact exist, please send me mail about it. As usual, if you should be caught, oh... excuse me, wrong show.. :-) As usual, I will summerize any responses I receive. Yossie Silverman "What did the Caspian Sea?" RPR1YOS@TECHNION.BITNET - Saki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 87 08:18:26 EST From: Dave Goldberg <dsg@mitre-bedford.ARPA> Subject: Shutdown from within hypercard I just got hypercard and so far I like it alot. There is one thing I would like to do, but can't figure out how. If I boot off the provided startup disk, and quit hypercard, I get the same effect as shutdown. But I'd rather use my old system file, and boot off my hard disk. I've tried setting hypercard to be the start up file, but quitting it sends me to the finder. That doesn't bother me, because I'm not the only one who uses this mac and some of my co-workers prefer the finder. What I'd like to do is create a button to call for a shutdown. I don't know much about scripts myself, but there are people here who can help me do it if someone out in netland can tell me what commands the script would have to call to do it. Thanks for any help you can give me, Dave Dave Goldberg ARPA: dsg@mitre-bedford.arpa The Mitre Corporation UUCP: linus!mbunix!dsg MS B015 Bedford, MA 01730 617-271-2460 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 87 11:45:30 PST From: PUGH@NMFECC.ARPA Subject: Weirdness with DA menu! Here's an interesting problem that I hope someone has seen before. I am running MultiFinder and Suitcase and someone is messing up my DAs menu. The line under the About... item is supposed to be dimmed and unselectable. It is not. Instead, one of the DAs is dimmed. The DA itself varies, but most of the time it is Tops, which is 2 down from the line that is supposed to be dimmed, but I have also seen it dim the Control Panel, which is 8 down, and right now it is Calendar 2.0, which is 6 down. I don't have a clue what is doing this, but it seems to only happen under MultiFinder. And not when I start up. I have VersaTerm PRO 2.10 and Hypercard as the startup applications and it is only after I work for a while that I see this happening. If I watch for it, it refuses to occur, making it damn hard to track down. Has anyone else experienced this or is it just me? I should probably point out that this is on a Mac II with 5 Meg of memory and a 40 meg hd. I'm running all the latest released software plus the INITs, SFScrollInit, ScrapSaver, Quote Init, Menu Clock, MFMenu, Tops, & Suitcase. I also use the Switch-a-Roo FKEY posted here to toggle my color screen back and forth from b&w. Any clues? This is all too damn strange and it looks damn near impossible to track down. It just happened somewhere between MPW and Hypercard. I hate this sh*t! Worse! It is dimmed in the Finder, Hypercard and VersaTerm, but not in MPW! Arrrggggg!!!! Please help! Jon N L pugh@nmfecc.arpa M A L National Magnetic Fusion Energy Computer Center F T N Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory E L PO Box 5509 L-561 C Livermore, California 94550 C (415) 423-4239 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:04:34 SET From: Alexander Falk <K360950%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Background Printing on the ImageWriter... More Backgrounding with MultiFinder: a d a n g e r o u s patch =================== How to do a context switch when a "modal" window is the frontmost one... Some background information: when MultiFinder detects the request for a context switch, it proceeds only, if the frontmost window isn't a "modal" window (procID=1 is used by all modal dialog boxes). Unfortunately almost every application uses a "modal" window for the "Printing in progress..." dialog. So when you have an ImageWriter, you have to wait until printing is finished, before you may switch to another program. This is only because the frontmost window has procID=1. In a recent posting somebody (I'm sorry, but I don't remember who it was) suggested to use ResEdit to change all Dialog boxes to procID=something other than 1. This works, but there are some products (especially from a corporation called Micr*S*ft), which do n o t use resources for dialog boxes. It is also nearly impossible to patch them, because rumor is, that they use some kind of P-Code Machine.... OK, so there is no way, but patching MultiFinder(TM): In CODE segment 3, procedure 30 you'll find these statements, which do nothing, but test if the frontmost window has procID=1, before doing the context switch. 0000: ; some statements... 000A: _FrontWindow ; get a Ptr to the front- 000C: MOVE.L (A7)+,D0 ; most window and put in 000E: MOVEA.L D0,A1 ; register A1 0010: CMPA.W #$0000,A1 ; Is it NIL ? 0014: BEQ.S Label2 ; If so, we can switch... 0016: LEA $007E(A1),A0 ; Look into WindowRecord 001A: CMPI.B #$01,(A0) ; is procID = 1 ? 001E: BEQ Label1 ; If so, don't switch 0022: BTST #$0007,$0071(A1); 0028: BEQ.S Label2 ; 002A: Label1 BRA Label3 ; 002E: Label2 ; some other statements... So one only has to replace the one and only occurrence of "41E9 007E 0C10 0001 6700 000A" with "41E9 007E 0C10 0001 4E71 4E71" which stands for the following code: 0016: LEA $007E(A1),A0 ; 41E9 007E 001A: CMPI.B #$01,(A0) ; 0C10 0001 001E: NOP ; 4E71 0020: NOP ; 4E71 You can easily apply the change with Fedit Plus(TM). But why did MultFinder ask for the kind of the frontmost window? I'm sorry, but I can't answer this question, because I've neither written MultiFinder, nor do I have access to special "top secret" information about the program. I only could imagine, that the printer driver won't be that much pleased with a second request to print a document from another application, while it is still processing the first print job. Also I don't know, what's going to happen, if a backgrounding application does a ModalDialog(...) from the background. Something is quite amusing: If a "modal" window (procID=1) is frontmost a n d the foreground application does a ModalDialog(...), then MultiFinder refuses to switch, even if the above patch is applied. That's fine. Let's put it this simple: You must not apply the above patch, unless you are very sure, about what's going on when you do a context switch. If I had written MultiFinder, I would have asked for the kind of the frontmost window, too. A word of the wise to the usual Macintosh U S E R: Don't use this patch. You trade in a lot of safety against a little bit of multitasking. Especially this patch is useless, if you have access to a LaserWriter, since the LaserWriter driver together with PrintMonitor can operate in background. A word to the Macintosh hackers, freaks and developers: "A REAL PROGRAMMER can read and disassemble core dumps without a HEX calculator." So he probably can expect, when he'll get the "Sorry, a serious ....." message, too. According to Murphy, it only happens b e f o r e you have saved or backed up your work.... Alexander The true multitasking environment: If it's there, and you can see it, it's real. If it's not there, and you can see it, it's virtual. If it's there, and you can't see it, it's transparent. If it's not there, and you can't see it, it's gone] Disclaimer: I've no special connections with the MultiFinder developement team. All ideas presented in this articel are my own. Nevertheless I really would like to have connections to the MultiFinder team. Also I'd like to have access to some "insider" information about "Next summer the adventure continues: Juggler/2]"... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 16:59:03 MET From: Norbert Lindenberg - U Karlsruhe From: <norbert%ira.uka.de@RELAY.CS.NET> Subject: Re: generating PostScript output It may seem ridiculous, but you have to hold down the cmd-f keys until the LaserWriter driver comes up with its "Creating PostScript File" message. I don't know what the driver really does to find out about your keypresses, but it certainly does not ask for keyDown events. Norbert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 00:59:35 IST From: YOSSIE SILVERMAN <RPR1YOS%TECHNION.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Apprent bug in MacDraw 1.95 or in ImageWriter driver (2.6) I tried to print a very complicated MacDraw file (with a few thousand vectors) on an ImageWriter II and I. System was 4.2, ImageWriter 2.6, MacDraw 1.95 on both Mac+ and Mac SE. Each band printed seemed to show up in mirror image. It wasn't a perfect mirror image. Only the gross scale was mirrored. It seemed like only the vectors that originated or ended outside the band were reversed. Its hard to explain but the result was anything but satisfactory. This behavior persisted on both ImageWriter models and both Macintosh models. When the document was printed on a LaserWriter (QMS) using the same system and MacDraw file and application, the output was correct. Has anyone else bumped into this problem before? Does anyone know how to solve it? Apple ppl, can you help? Please send any and all observations and reports to RPR1YOS@TECHNION.BITNET and I will summerize. Yossie Silverman "What did the Caspian sea?" RPR1YOS@TECHNION.BITNET - Saki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 87 12:22:44 EST From: singer@harvard.harvard.edu (THINK Technologies) Subject: LightspeedC Libraries version 2.15, in 2 parts This is the first half of a BinHexed Stuffit file. This file contains version 2.15 of the LightspeedC standard libraries. Due to copyright reasons, we cannot distribute the libraries in source form to the information services, but registered owners of LightspeedC can get a new LP2.Libraries diskl by sending their name, address, registration number, and $10 to: LightspeedC Library Update THINK Technologies 135 South Rd. Bedford, MA 01730 The fixes included here are numerous; however, some specific ones may be of interest, specifically: The math library now works correctly. Echo_to_Printer() functions properly fflush() of a standard stream will not crash the system fopen() returns an error code and NULL file pointer if the open fails and other nice fixes.... --Rich **The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies). * Richard M. Siegel | {decvax, ucbvax, sun}!harvard!endor!singer * * Customer Support | singer@endor.harvard.edu * * Symantec, THINK Technologies Division. (No snappy quote) * [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UPGRADE-LIGHTSPEEDC-LIB-215-PART1.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UPGRADE-LIGHTSPEEDC-LIB-215-PART2.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Dec 87 12:09:53 PST From: Ali Ozer <ali@rocky.stanford.edu> Subject: Peg Puzzle Pak 1.0 Here is the executable for a program written by a friend of mine, Dennis Wildfogel. He wanted me to post this on the net a while ago, and I'm finally getting around to it. The program, "Peg Puzzle Pak," is a collection of four peg puzzles --- "Line O'Pegs," "Pascal's Pegs," "Silver Peg," and "PEGmendous." They cover a wide range of difficulty levels and should prove to be a lot of fun for everyone. The program is shareware, and if you enjoy it, please send a few dollars to Dennis. His address (and more information) are provided within the program, in the "About..." box. [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GAME-PEG-PUZZLES-10.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 87 12:38:50 PST From: oster%SOE.Berkeley.EDU@jade.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster) Subject: Shepard Tones There recently has been a discussion on Usenet of Shepard tones, the audio analog of the Escher endless staircase. Here is a Macintosh version of the Shepard Tone effect. The program lets you go up or down forever, and includes an animated ball rolling around an endless staircase. See pages 717-719 of _Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid_ Douglas Hofstadter, Basic Books, New York, 1979, for a description of the sound algorithm. This program was written in LightSpeed C. I intend to write the code up for MacTutor magazine. The source code (not provided here) is an example of: 1.) a sprite graphic system, flicker free, with internal animation, and path editing. 2.) a 4 octave 12 loudness 4 channel square wave music system, driven by VBL tasks so the music tempo remains accurate even if the animation lags. 3.) an example of the use of Suspend/Resume events (The action pauses if you use anything else in multi-finder. Under finder, it runs in background while you are using a desk accessory.) 4.) an example of writing multi-finder compatible interrupt service tasks in LightSpeed C. Shepard tones are often used in video games as a way of building suspense: a melody phrase that ends higher than it began can be played continuously, creating subconscious tension because we expect music to resolve. Any similarity between this program "Shepard Tones" and a popular arcade game that is not available for the Macintosh is purely coincidental, but my ego would like it if there were a letter writing campaign to _Electronic Arts_, 1820 Gateway Drive, San Mateo, CA 94404 saying that you want it for the Mac, and you know just the programmer to do it. :-) This version, version 1.0, ignores the volume control. In addition, the Control Panel's volume control hangs the system if you use it while sound is playing. Shepard Tones should work on all macintoshes except the Mac XL. (The Mac XL doesn't have four voice sound, so Shepard Tones will just beep and exit.)[Late note from the author: Shepard Tones has been tested on a Mac Plus and a Mac II, confirming the above compatibility note. - Lance] --- David Phillip Oster --This sentence is a lifelike replica of Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu --one by Douglas Hofstadter. Uucp: {uwvax,decvax,ihnp4}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>SHEPARD-TONES.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue 8 Dec 87 09:41:22-GMT From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR> Subject: HD Runner 1.4 (in 3 parts) [ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ] Name: HD RUNNER Date: 8-DEC-1987 05:21 by DEWI [ Updated 8-DEC-1987 05:21 by DEWI to version 1.4. ] This is release 1.4 of the "HD Runner" minifinder. It's MultiFinder- compatible. Shows a scrolling list of all applications, and lets you type their names (with partial matching) to run them. It already knows where the applications live - you don't need to manually configure it. New features include the ability to bind a command key to any application and optional attached document, 68020 cache control, "hide on suspend" under MultiFinder (i.e. don't waste screen space when you're not wanted) etc. HD Runner is a "find application and launch" and minifinder utility. It uses the Finder's Desktop file to "know" where applications are, so it needs no configuration. A scrolling list of applications is presented for launch. Only works with HFS volumes, and is dedicated to the memory of the $PATH feature.... Needs StuffIt to unpack. [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>HD-RUNNER-14-PART1.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>HD-RUNNER-14-PART2.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>HD-RUNNER-14-PART3.HQX This version replaces version 1.1. - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 87 13:49:41 CST From: Robert Joseph Hammen <hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> Subject: Sound Mover Package This is the Sound Mover Package, a StuffIt archive I found on Compu$erve. It consists of four programs/utilities: a program to convert the standard SoundCap/SoundWave format sound files to 'snd ' resources: a program, similar to the Font/DA Mover, that allows you to move the snd resources around between files (i.e. your System file, HyperCard stacks, etc.): an INIT that will play snd resources at startup: and a cdev (control panel file) for the Mac Plus, SE and II that lets you choose an 'snd ' resource as your system beep. (The Mac II "Sound" cdev already gives this capability to the II). ========================================================================= Robert Hammen Computer Applications, Inc. hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Delphi: HAMMEN GEnie: R.Hammen CI$: 70701,2104 [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-SOUNDMOVER-PACKAGE.HQX UTILITY-SOUNDMOVER.HQX and UTILITY-SOUNDCAP-SND-CONVERTER.HQX are also in <INFO-MAC>; I will leave them there because they are slightly different from the Sound Mover Package. Let me know if you feel this is unnecessary duplication. - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 87 13:56:41 CST From: Robert Joseph Hammen <hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> Subject: JClock INIT Someone was recently asking about the JClock INIT on Usenet, and when I checked the archives at Sumex-Aim, it wasn't there. So here is the JClock INIT, which you simply copy to your System Folder and reboot to activate. JClock will display a clock (hours, minutes, and seconds) in the upper-right corner of the menu bar. You can temporarily disable the clock by positioning the mouse pointer over the clock and holding down the mouse button until it goes away. Despite some claims to the contrary, I've found JClock to be stable and extremely handy (it shows me I've been reading news too long!). It does not work well with the Macintosh II in >1 bit (black & white only) mode. ========================================================================= Robert Hammen Computer Applications, Inc. hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Delphi: HAMMEN GEnie: R.Hammen CI$: 70701,2104 [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>INIT-JCLOCK.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: 10 DEC 87 21:45-N From: RICK%HASARA5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: How to structure a hard disk's desktop (Idea) Here is an idea on How-To-Structure-Your-Desktop: For hard disks with lots of files the I find the 'View by Icon' in the Finder quite inconvenient. You cannot have a window on screen with *all* your folders then without lots of scrolling. The MacPaint document here shows how files can be arranged in a more convenient way. The applications that are used regularly are on the desktop. There is one window for the hard disk, that shows files 'by Name', with mostly folders only. This way you can reach your applications quickly and all of your documents too. If you name your folders with a unique first character opening from within the application is easier too. Name the folder with MacPaint documents 'Paintings' for example. If you want to open a doc from within Paint choose 'Open' and type a 'P'. This will get you to the 'Paintings' folder. Its just an idea, but everyone here is using it now ;-) Share and enjoy, Rick Jansen [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DESKTOP-STRUCTURE-IDEA.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon 14 Dec 87 09:37:05-EDT From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR> Subject: Graftech (in 2 parts) [ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ] Name: GRAFTECH 1.0 Date: 13-DEC-1987 22:14 by IAN This is GRAFTECH 1.0 from INPROTECH. A simple means of creating presentation quality graphics. Unpack with StuffIt. [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GRAFTECH-10-PART1.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GRAFTECH-10-PART2.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 87 07:58:37 PST From: PUGH@NMFECC.ARPA Subject: Christmas Carol Stack Here is a stack of Christmas carols played with a digitized flute. Very seasonal and very pleasant. A nice example of Hypercard's music capabilities. Jon [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>HYPERCARD-CHRISTMAS-CAROLS.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 10:41:48 PST From: PUGH@NMFECC.ARPA Subject: ScrapSavers Well, in between my request for a newer version of Scrapsaver and it's actual inclusion in a digest, someone posted Paul Mercer's aScrapSaver, which does indeed work with MultiFinder, unlike ScrapSaver 1.2 which is in the archives. The archived files are : INIT-ASCRAPSAVER.HQX.2 <-- works with MultiFinder INIT-SCRAPSAVER-12.HQX.2 <-- doesn't work with MF I hope this clears up any confusion I may have caused. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 19:46:48 PST From: g570907053ea@deneb.ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: Mactivation Mike Kranzdorf will return Mactivation, version 2.02 at least, if you mail him a 3.5" floppy at : U. Colorado Campus Box 425 Boulder, CO 80309 BTW, when I was at the IEEE Neural Net/Neuroscience joint meeting last month, they kept claiming we were in 'the greater Boulder Metropolitan area' ... is Denver just a suburb 8^? Ron Goldthwaite / UC Davis / Psychology & Animal Behavior Ron Goldthwaite / UC Davis, Psychology and Animal Behavior 'Economics is a branch of ethics, pretending to be a science; ethology is a science, pretending relevance to ethics.' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 15:17 EST From: <ZSQY%CRNLVAX5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Foreign Language spell checkers Word Perfect to the rescue! According to our Regional Marketing Manager Word Perfect plans to port all of their foreign language dictionaries over to the Mac in time for the release of Word Perfect Mac (January release is the latest guesstimate). The Dictionaries Are (drum roll please)...` Danish Dutch Finnish French German Icelandic Norwegian Portugese (Real Soon Now) Spanish Sweedish Swiss United Kingdom Those will be selling for $60 retail, $40 educational. Education applies only to those who can spell "Swedish". Of course these dictionaries will only work with Word Perfect Mac which is going to be selling for $395 retail. If you need foreign-Language spell checking right now, you better speak Spanish. Correctamente is a Spanish spelling dictionary by Medina Software, 2008 Las Palmas Cir. Orlando FL, 32822; (305) 281-1557 They also make SpanGlish listed as a Spanish/English spelling dictionary. Correctamente lists for $24.95 U.S., and SpanGlish for $32.95 U.S., both retail. This is coming out of the Word Processor section of the Winter 1987 Macintosh Buying guide. We haven't tried either of the programs. One person confirmed that there is, indeed, a German version of Word 3.01, but we think it's only available in Germany. Keep us informed about what you hear, Philip Gross ZSQY@CRNLVAX5.Bitnet Linda Iroff ELFJ@CRNLVAX5.Bitnet "Dear Mr. Fantasy, Play us a tune, Something to make us all happy..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 10:37:20 PST From: PUGH@NMFECC.ARPA Subject: Alarming options Concerning the request for computerized alarm systems, the X10 people make a burgler alarm unit that interfaces to your existing alarm system (whatever that may mean) and turns your lights on/off. I do not really know any details other than that this option exists. I recommend checking with Radio Shack, Sears, Heathkit, or DAK for the module and other more detailed information. I have a brochure at home that I can quote at my leisure if you are interested. Jon ------------------------------ Date: 14 Dec 87 12:00 EST From: V2002A%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Package wanted to interpret mark-sense forms Hi, I have a user who is interested in using the MAC for reading mark sense forms with a DEST page scanner. We can read the forms into MACDRAW but we have no way of tabulating responses once its there. Thanks in advance! (Similarly posted to INFO-IBMPC@SIMTEL20.ARPA) Andy Wing V2002A%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU ------------------------------ End of INFO-MAC Digest **********************