SHULMAN@sdr.slb.COM (Jeffrey Shulman) (01/12/88)
Date: Tue 12 Jan 88 09:31:46-GMT From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR> Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V4 #1 To: Delphi-List: ; Message-ID: <568978306.0.SHULMAN@SDR> Mail-System-Version: <VAX-MM(218)+TOPSLIB(129)@SDR> Delphi Mac Digest Tuesday, January 12, 1988 Volume 4 : Issue 1 Today's Topics: RE: Re: IBM_to_Macintosh (2 messages) RE: Re: Bug in Mac Word 3.01? Re: Another SFGetFile question need info re: AppleColour Monitor Quirk (2 messages) the user interface game re: DMCS for the Mac II GCC Personal Laser Printer Payroll packages Async AppleTalk (4 messages) re: International Macs + new user interf RE: Launching or Sublaunching Another Ap (2 messages) VBLANK animation 4th Dim. - are they kidding ?! (4 messages) MacDraw Replacement? (2 messages) Red Ryder 10.3 thruput Tear-Off Menus Mouse Cover What is Reflex Plus status? RE: Async AppleTalk (2 messages) RE: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #3 Usenet Mac Digest V4 #3 RE: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #4 re: Re: Multifinder woes. DA's re: Re: Chooser Strangeness (really prin re: Debugging LDEV from Lightspeed Pasca re: WriteNow vs. Mac II RE: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PEABO Subject: RE: Re: IBM_to_Macintosh (Re: Msg 24472) Date: 27-DEC 19:49 Network Digests >From: stephens@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Greg Stephens) >Subject: Re: IBM_to_Macintosh >Date: 17 Dec 87 19:07:34 GMT >Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino >I have tried several combinations of programs to perform multi-file >xfers between PCs and the Mac. >First, Red Ryder 10.3, says that it supports YMODEM. I have never >gotten Red Ryder's YMODEM to work with any PC based emulator that >supports YMODEM. When Red Ryder 10.3 sends YMODEM it looks for the prompt 'CK' from the receiver to indicate that 1K blocks should be used. If it gets only a 'C' prompt, it reverts to 128 byte blocks. Not all YMODEM packages know about the use of the K in this fashion. Is this the problem you are seeing? peter "In any context, half of all references PEABO @ DELPHI are local and half are global." ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: Re: IBM_to_Macintosh (Re: Msg 24475) Date: 28-DEC 22:29 Network Digests >RE: From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) >Subject: Bug in Mac Word 3.01? There is a bug in Word 3.01 that causes it to stop at page 1 when printing backwards - EVEN IF IT IS NOT THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FILE. I suggest you get a copy of my Word bugs/requests list. I expect to release a new edition at MacExpo. >RE: From: slb@drutx.ATT.COM (Sue Brezden) >Subject: Some questions on cursors and stuff like that there The last cursor of the rotating watch is CURS 4 from the System file. In Finder you will find a resource 'acur' 0. The latest Resedit supports acur ( small letters) resources, which contain a list of cursor ids. There is a resource file that contains rotating earth cursors that I have installed in my Finders. ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: Re: Bug in Mac Word 3.01? Date: 28-DEC 22:42 Network Digests >RE: From: planting@colby.WISC.EDU ( W. Harry Plantinga) >Subject: Re: Bug in Mac Word 3.01? Did you try to use CHOOSER to select the ImageWriter, after printing on the LaserWriter, and without leaving Word. Word 3.01 has a bug that causes problems when CHOOSER is called while Word is active, especially after having printed a file. See mu bugs/requests list. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: Re: Another SFGetFile question Date: 29-DEC 22:48 Network Digests To: gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) Subject: Re: Another SFGetFile question > I want to filter out all open files. I have > tried just checking the ioRefNum field since IM says that this will > contain the file's reference number if the file is open (but it doesn't > say what it will contain if the file is closed!). If ioRefNum is 0 then > I assume the file is closed. This works fine on the Mac+ but does NOT > work on 64K ROM machines. On 64K ROM machines my filter thinks that > EVERY file is open. function FileFilter(var PB: ParamBlockRec): boolean; begin FileFilter := true; with PB do begin if intptr(fsFCBLen)^ < 0 then begin {MFS} ioRefNum := 0;{MFS doesn't clear it if file's not open} if PBGetFInfo(@PB, false) <> noErr then {gulp!}; end; if ioRefNum <= 0 then {file is closed} end; end; ------------------------------ From: PATHEMLEPP Subject: need info Date: 30-DEC 08:21 Hardware & Peripherals Looking for users' opinions of different large-screen monitors and scanners. Scanner to be used primarily for graphics and photos for publication purposes. One monitor (on SE) primarily for page layout with Pagemaker. Other monitor (on Plus) prim arily for graphics. SE owned by major oil company. Plus used by daily newspaper. ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: AppleColour Monitor Quirk (Re: Msg 24472) Date: 31-DEC 01:53 Network Digests > From: mcdonald@sfu_dipper.cs.sfu > Subject: AppleColour Monitor Quirk I've noticed the shaking fuzziness in my Apple color monitor shortly after it's powered on; it quickly goes away and doesn't seem to bother anything. I've been using the machine for over 6 months. ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: re: AppleColour Monitor Quirk (Re: Msg 24520) Date: 31-DEC 20:43 Network Digests That is probably the degausser in action. Every color system has a degaussing coil to demagnetize the shadow mask. It is designed to turn on with the TV set/monitor ... and apply an alternating magnetic field for a short time period. Circuitry in the system causes the degaussing coil to cease to carry current after warm-up. Try bringing a perrmanent magnet near the face of your monitor and you will see why this is necessary. ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: the user interface game Date: 31-DEC 01:53 Mousing Around Over Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays, I've had the pleasure of playing the game Pictionary. You're given a word or phrase in one of several categories, and one player of a team tries to convey, using pictures alone, the word. If the other player(s) of the team guess, the team advances along a track. Some words are specifically for all teams to guess at the same time -- each has a 'picturist.' I found the game a lot of fun, and had the thought that it would be perfect for a human interface group. Certainly many of the icons I've seen would never be wins in Pictionary! Actually, Pictionary has the advantage that its pictures aren't static -- sometimes the way they're drawn is an important clue (the important parts are drawn first), and it's an interactive process -- as guesses are yelled out, the picturist may completely revise the picture. BTW, Pictionary seems to be the latest fad, near as I can tell (and I normally avoid anything faddish). ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: DMCS for the Mac II (Re: Msg 24473) Date: 31-DEC 01:54 Network Digests > From: chow@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Christopher Chow) > Subject: DMCS for the Mac II I've been using Concertware+MIDI on my Mac II; it isn't the same as DMCS, I'm sure, but does do a reasonable job at the things it does. The current version uses the Sonata font for printing. David Dunham "The more laws there are, the more people are Maitreya Design inclined to break them" ------------------------------ From: MCHUMMER Subject: GCC Personal Laser Printer Date: 2-JAN-11:44: Hardware & Peripherals Its a feeling thats hard to describe. Its a feeling that all Mac users know. I just purchased a General Computer Personal Laser Printer. At last I can output to printer Quality text and graphics. For a quick draw machine Its grea t. Sure I thought that I might wait for a postscript laser writer bargain. Sure I thought that I could sink myself deeper in debt for that alod postscipt compatability. I am pleased wit more than pleased with what I got! With the PLP who need wait for the Image Writer LQ? (except those who need it features -- I know) I have tried the PLP with various programs lik e PageMaker 2.0a, Word 3.01, SuperPaint, Write Now!, Graphic Works 1.01, PageMaker 1.2,MacDraw,FileMaker+ 2.0,and have encountered few problems. (,ost c most caused by failure to follow Apple's printer interface guidelines (Microsoft-- are you listening???)) No major quirks though. Any one got any tips out there??? (anyone want to write a PostScript driver f or it???) Thanks. McHummer ------------------------------ From: TSTEIN Subject: Payroll packages Date: 4-JAN-09:39: Business Mac Has anyone had experience with any simple payroll package. Could be stand- alone, or part of a complete accounting system, or even Excel templates. We don't need the accounting stuff, just the payroll. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: Async AppleTalk Date: 4-JAN-19:46: Hardware & Peripherals Besides R-Server, who else makes software that will allow you to dial up an AppleTalk network? I will be providing my own TrailBlazer modem so the Shiva NetModem is out (too slow.) I'd also like to hear from anyone who has used R-Server. Jeff ------------------------------ From: VANO Subject: RE: Async AppleTalk (Re: Msg 24586) Date: 4-JAN-20:52: Hardware & Peripherals Jeff: I haven't used it with Async AppleTalk, but the Shiva NetSerial can be used with your own modem at any baudRate up to 56KB. The product is supposed to act like the NetModem when used that way. I was doing some testing of the basic NetSerial box here, and it appears to function as advertised, but I would be a little suspicious of Async Appletalk, since Shiva claims to be replacing it with their own proprietary system since they feel it is not sufficiently reliable. BTW, the NetSerial is very cost effective and easy to install. ($399 or so, and you should ignore their installer script and just copy the CDEV into your system folder!). Hope this tells you more than you knew - Mario ------------------------------ From: AGALLAGHER Subject: RE: Async AppleTalk (Re: Msg 24594) Date: 5-JAN-01:57: Hardware & Peripherals I have been using an R-Server for a few weeks and it seems to work fine. There were some problems with InBox (when isn't there) but Solana helped out a lot and even had us send in our two R-Servers so they could put in a new version of the ROMS. We also received three or four updates of ASYNC Appletalk that were updated daily. We now have two networks linked together by two R-Servers. Your question of dialing in to a network also works fine, you can read your mail, print something and transfer files just fine (even at 1200 baud) but just DON'T open an application without a good book in front of you. = ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: RE: Async AppleTalk (Re: Msg 24635) Date: 8-JAN-20:13: Hardware & Peripherals I ordered a NetSerial. Based on phone calls and a few other sources it came out ahead of R-Server. I'm also going to get a beta of their CDEV controller (instead of the Async AppleTalk DA) since the AA DA doesn't work well with TrailBlazer's (according to their tech person). The CDEV will also allow you to use the normal modem port for your modem instead of the printer port (which was a big plus in their favor). Jeff ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: International Macs + new user interf (Re: Msg 24574) Date: 4-JAN-21:27: Network Digests > From: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster) > Subject: International Macs + new user interface = ? I was never able to get a completely satisfactory answer, but I believe that pretzel-Z is _always_ Undo, no matter where the Z key is on the keyboard (I have no idea how non-Roman keyboards do this). This is perhaps because of Apple's multitasking system. DAs aren't called for Edit menu keyboard equivalents -- they get the key event instead. Dumb, but maybe programs like ThinkTank (no Undo menu item) are partly to blame for this. Glad someone else noticed that cmd-? doesn't in fact work. Hope Apple realizes it too. David Dunham "The more laws there are, the more people are Maitreya Design inclined to break them" ------------------------------ From: RJWM Subject: RE: Launching or Sublaunching Another Ap (Re: Msg 2270) Date: 4-JAN-22:52: Programming Techniques Two related question. The sublaunch facility that HyperCard uses does not require System 4.1-it works perfectly well with 4.0. How does it work? How can you make the launch of a document with an application from HyperCard into a one way launch, i.e. so it does not return to the HyperCard stack upon quitting the launched document? Richard ------------------------------ From: DEWI Subject: RE: Launching or Sublaunching Another Ap (Re: Msg 2271) Date: 5-JAN-05:11: Programming Techniques The first question first: I'm slightly confused by the question, unfortunately. What do you mean by "return to the original document"? Let's hope I answer the correct question... If the scenario is program A gets called with attached document A, program A sublaunches B with document B, then under MultiFinder you have the choice of keeping doc A open, or re-opening it after the sublaunch (just in case you weren't under MultiFinder and the launch didn't return). Unfortunately, you can't test for MultiFinder, you can only test for existence of the WaitNextEvent trap and Apple warns you that this might exist in the (non-Multi) Finder in some future system release (sigh). You can uniquely define the location of the document by the triad (volume refnum, directory ID, name) and re-open immediately after the launch. If you're saving the location of a document in a Resume File, then you might want to save the Volume name instead (if you reboot, and insert your floppies in a different order, it'll have a different refnum). The only glitch with this is with some esoteric networks where the directory IDs are dynamically allocated. Saving a pathname, a la HyperCard, would solve this but is generally considered a bad idea with HFS. I don't understand all the ramifications of this yet... In summary, working directories and directory IDs are a bit of a mess in my opinion! And the second question: The original sublaunch (the one that meant that the sublaunching program didn't have to live in the system folder) was in 4.0 but undocumented. It was officially announced as a 4.1 feature. The 4.0 version may be buggy for all I know. I'm really not too sure what HyperCard 1.0.1 does. It's difficult to sublaunch with an attached document and then turn around and exit with MultiFinder, since the working directories get wiped out before the sublaunched program can use them. But then again, under MultiFinder HyperCard can only find documents at the root, which doesn't need a working directory. Oh well, I said it was hairy... All of the above is mildly dubious, since a fair amount is empirical rather than official Apple gospel. Best of luck! Dewi ------------------------------ From: SBERFIELD Subject: VBLANK animation Date: 6-JAN-23:44: Macintosh Developers I need help with animating large portioss of the screen for a game I am working on. I hope to use a vertical blank to constantly refresh the screen based off of an off screen image constructed on the fly from smaller pieces. 't enough horsepower in teh Mac to do it that way. Anybody tackled anything similar recently? Also, any sources of better docs than IM for the vertical retrace manager? Hope you guys can help. ------------------------------ From: INTECO Subject: 4th Dim. - are they kidding ?! Date: 7-JAN-21:14: Programming I had a very strange vision: I would have written a program for 4th dimension, setup a complex database, and wanted to have listings in sorted order... The sort fields are indexed, so I thought a subset of the data could be print out in the sort order of the index. But it was a nightmare !!! Everytime I change my selection I have to sort again.... I hope I am missing something which I might have overseen in the handbooks, otherwise the developers could need some lessons about database design... Quite disappointed - Uwe ------------------------------ From: MACWEEKBOS Subject: RE: 4th Dim. - are they kidding ?! (Re: Msg 24612) Date: 8-JAN-10:28: Programming Uwe, One thing that 4D doesn't seem able to do is to *store* data in sorted order. You can always sort, export, then import to store it, however. But I think the problem is 4D's, not your understanding of the program. Ric ------------------------------ From: INTECO Subject: RE: 4th Dim. - are they kidding ?! (Re: Msg 24636) Date: 8-JAN-12:32: Programming No Database stores in sorted order but like HELIX you can access the data in the sorted order of an index which 4th dim. obviously does not allow... Uwe ------------------------------ From: MACWEEKBOS Subject: RE: 4th Dim. - are they kidding ?! (Re: Msg 24641) Date: 9-JAN-08:50: Programming Yes, you're right. I should say that 4D neglects to store *the order*, not store the actual records in that order. One workaround may be to use sets... Ric ------------------------------ From: NATURAL Subject: MacDraw Replacement? Date: 7-JAN-22:00: Business Mac As a dedicated user of MacDraw, I was wondering what kind of replacements others are looking into for the same sort features but with a lot more. For example, I need the multi- page feature of draw. And I can NOT live without the on-screen size change of the page with the adjustment of printer, paper size, reduction percentage, etc. But, I would just love to have more font sizes, definable grids, more of the power tools, etc. What are you all using out there? Thanks. Joshua ------------------------------ From: HALL Subject: RE: MacDraw Replacement? (Re: Msg 24614) Date: 7-JAN-23:44: Business Mac I have a friend who swears by (or is it at? ;-) ) MGM Station. He uses it to design a well known company's PC clones. Brian ------------------------------ From: PDNNOG Subject: Red Ryder 10.3 thruput Date: 7-JAN-23:02: Telecommunicating One thing I just remebered. One of my friends was so bugged by the apparent slow thruput of Red Ryder 10.3 that he methodically stripped his inits out one by one. It turned out that the FKEY PopKey thingie by Carlos Weber just about halved the thruput. When that was eleiminated, Red is back to almost good. For those who can't live without FKEYS, a new alternative albeit commercial is contained within FontDA Juggler Plus, $60 retail which can have up to 12 open fkeys, fonts, sounds(mac II sounds on a plus!)DAs, etc. You can have up to 32,000Fkeys with a renumbering accesory also included. Also a hot key to show you all the active fonts..in all their sizes to 24 points, with any attribute(bold,underline, etc.) AND an FKEY that will allow you to print a line of text in all the available fonts in any style. Coded by Paul Cozza, a superb and responsive individual. This will be debutted at the Show in SF, so look for it. ------------------------------ From: INTECO Subject: Tear-Off Menus Date: 7-JAN-21:18: Programming Techniques How can I have the teared-off menu stay always on top of all windows? Uwe ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: Mouse Cover Date: 8-JAN-19:21: Hardware & Peripherals The plastic cover of the mouse supplied with Mac SEs and Mac IIs has an apparently high incidence of defective alignment of the button portion. While defective mice appear to work properly for a while, at some point the mouse button will cease to function properly. In my case the mouse button latched on, causing an apparent freeze, and inability to boot. When I tried to insert a floppy disk into the floppy disk drive, the disk was ejected on power-up, and the computer tried unsuccessfully to boot from its hard disk. It took me a while to try booting with a borrowed mouse attached - which succeeded. I was also lucky in that the Mac II was (by just a few days) within warrenty. After opening the mouse, and examining the button microswitch, which was perfectly OK, and the cover, which looked OK but would not mate properly with the switch, the technician at my local dealer replaced the ENTIRE mouse. For some esoteric reason, Apple will NOT supply replacement mouse covers. I can understand their not wanting to supply replacement parts for the circuit board assembly, but the mouse cover is an easily replaceable part, secured with 4 Phillips head screws. If your mouse cover goes out of warrenty, you end up paying for an entire mouse. Doesn't this seems a bit excessive, especially if it is likely that the cover was origionally defective. ------------------------------ From: JDSCHNITZER Subject: What is Reflex Plus status? Date: 9-JAN-14:19: Business Mac What is the current status of Borland's Reflex Plus? As a Reflex owner, I sent in my upgrade request some months ago ($95 00 against a credit card). Quite a while ago I heard that ReflexJPlus was shipping, and then that Borland had pulled it back. I've heard nothing since, but it appears that the mail order houses have it. I'd be guessing that Borland lost my card, but a friend is in the same situation as I am. Has anyone out there actually received an upgrade from Borland? (And, no, I haven't called them yet.) /Jeff Schnitzer ------------------------------ From: MACWEEKBOS Subject: RE: Async AppleTalk (Re: Msg 24643) Date: 9-JAN-08:55: Hardware & Peripherals Can you give us a little more detail on the advantages and disadvantages of each? Ric ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: RE: Async AppleTalk (Re: Msg 24659) Date: 9-JAN-21:53: Hardware & Peripherals Well, the R-Server is strictly an incoming AppleTalk connection. They use the Async AppleTalk DA which means it a) must be activated after you turn on your Mac and b) only works through the printer port. They also admit to problems with Kinetics FastPath's but their tech never called me back to discuss exactly what problems they have. NetSerial can be both an incoming and an outgoing shared modem. They report they have no problems with FastPath's. They are also releasing a CDEV LAP which will let you select async AppleTalk till you deselect it and it will use either port you wish. Also, as I mentioned before, I have read reports (on AppleLink) of people having problems with R-Server and using NetSerial. Jeff ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #3 (Re: Msg 24682) Date: 10-JAN 15:03 Network Digests From: earleh@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU (Earle R. Horton) Subject: MacII basic question: What tools for serious scientific stuff? Date: 7 Jan 88 00:35:27 GMT You might want to look at ABSOFT FORTRAN 2.3. I believe that this is the only FORTRAN that presently uses the math coprocessor of the Mac II. This is likely to be better for you than PASCAL or C bercause: 1) You appear to be more familiar with FORTRAN 2) FORTRAN is an excellent language for numeric type applications Microsoft Fortran (which is based on the ABSOFT product) is not yet up to a coprocessor supporting level. There may be a FORTRAN compiler that works with MPW (ABSOFT has its own linker...). The UNIX system is not yet, as far as I know, officially released. ------------------------------ From: ROWLAND Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #3 (Re: Msg 24682) Date: 10-JAN 15:27 Programming I've used the Absoft Fortran 2.3 - it handles the coprocessor OK. Seems a reasonable FORTRAN. I've ported scientific applications from a VAX with not too much trouble (there are some differences in syntax of non-Fortran77 statements, but they are minor). You might also consider getting MacFace (from McFaceware, 1310 N.Broadway, Urbana, IL 61801 ; (217)-328-5842) for interfacing Mac type windows, menus, etc. In fact, I think the same set of routines can be called from C. At any rate, I recommend that approach - the scientific programming part of the project is unfortunately a minor effort compared to making the Mac part work like we've come to expect. The MacFace approach evens that somewhat, but its still a lot of work. Good luck. On a related topic - I'd like to see more of those research type programs available a little more generally. Went to a seminar at MIT a while back where the subject was the new supernova. The speaker gave a very nice topic talk and mentioned that he had this Mac program that would simulate the results of different initial conditions on observations. It would have been very nice if he had had a few disks with him. More generally I'm rather surprised that there are not more of those type of programs, or an interest group on a net somewhere (or maybe I've just missed it). Mike Burns Rowland Institute ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #4 (Re: Msg 24683) Date: 10-JAN 15:14 Network Digests From: UD069225@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Eric H. Romo) Subject: BERNOULLI 5Meg Hard Drives Date: 6 Jan 88 21:58:57 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network, Fargo, ND Avoid the 5 MB serial port Bernoulli Box. They are (expletive deleted) slow, and there may be problems with reliability and software. I abandoned one and am presently using two 10+10 B Boxes at work. There have been rumors about the financial stability of IOmega. Recently IOmega abandoned plans to fix the current Mac SCSI boxes to work properly with the Mac SE and the Mac II, and they have done nothing about the problem of their driver causing characters to be lost on the serial ports. ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: Re: Multifinder woes. DA's (Re: Msg 24681) Date: 11-JAN 03:13 Network Digests >From: goldman@apple.UUCP (Phil Goldman) >Subject: Re: Multifinder woes. DA's >many applications simply cannot handle having a DA in its memory partition. I'm astonished by this statement -- does this mean that these applications can't use DAs on a Mac 512? Or with Switcher? I never discovered any such application. (Giving DAs separate memory is a good idea; grouping them all into a single layer is bad from a user interface standpoint.) BTW, do you consider Key Caps a parasitic DA? I could, and it comes as standard equipment on every Mac. It is however about the only DA I leave open for its behavior, not as another data window. David Dunham "If it has syntax, it isn't user-friendly." Maitreya Design ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: Re: Chooser Strangeness (really prin (Re: Msg 24681) Date: 11-JAN 03:14 Network Digests >From: planting@colby.WISC.EDU ( W. Harry Plantinga) >Subject: Re: Chooser Strangeness (really printing options ugliness) >There's another thing about printing that really annoys me. There are >options that can be chosen in the print dialog that affect the way the >page looks. For example, in Word, selecting "fractional widths" makes >more text fit on each line. However, having fractional widths selected That's not something about printing; that's something about Word. In WriteNow, you select fractional widths from the (extended standard) Page Setup dialog, so you can do it at any time. David Dunham "If it doesn't have Undo, it's not a Mac program." Maitreya Design ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: Debugging LDEV from Lightspeed Pasca (Re: Msg 24683) Date: 11-JAN 03:14 Network Digests > From: jmm@thoth8.berkeley.edu.BERKELEY.EDU > Subject: Debugging LDEV from Lightspeed Pascal I'm not sure what an LDEV is, but if you mean an LDEF, you might want to check the sample one I have in my article in the latest (Jan88) MacTutor. It's in C, but it shows a labelled icon list definition function. Scott Knaster's book How To Write Macintosh Software should be very useful for learning the correlation between Pascal and assembly. David Dunham "Whenever you see a sign 'No Exit,' it means Maitreya Design there is an exit." ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: re: WriteNow vs. Mac II (Re: Msg 24683) Date: 11-JAN 03:15 Network Digests >From: jasst3@cisunx.UUCP (Jeffrey A. Sullivan) >Subject: WriteNow vs. Mac II The latest version I'm aware of is 1.07; it works pretty well on my II. David Dunham "The more laws there are, the more people are Maitreya Design inclined to break them" ------------------------------ From: MADMACS Subject: RE: Usenet Mac Digest V4 #2 (Re: Msg 24681) Date: 12-JAN 04:03 Network Digests >> From: pollock@usfvax2.UUCP (Wayne Pollock) >> Subject: Re: Multifinder woes. DA's I personally like the layering of DAs under Multi-Finder, it makes it nice to keep several of them open for an entire session. These would be of the "non-parasitic" variety. For Spelling checkers and such, I would suggest that the authyors of these DAs look closely at the Multi-Finder manuals, talk with Apple Developer Support and learn what tricks they can from Deneba's new Coach Professional Speller. This DA is absolutely fantastic. The speller has been beefed up with a dictionary, thesaurus, but most of all - it is VERY MULTI-FINDER SMART. You launch it like any other DA and it open in the DA Handler layer, but as you move to your other application layers it follows you. Now I don't have to worry about using the option key to load DAs into the Application heap. Brian Bezanson Madison Macintosh Users Group P.S. I have no direct affiliation with Deneba except as a satisfied customer. ------------------------------ End of Delphi Mac Digest ************************ -------