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INFO-MAC Digest Sunday, 31 Jan 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 7 Today's Topics: Re: C C compilers Re: Cheap Beep tips Req Info - start up disks Bernoulli Box on Mac ][ CMS/SCSI hard disk LaTex and its previewver on Macintosh requested DNA analysis on the Mac How to use Mac for Reaction Time experiments ? Word 3.01 Question: where are the laserwriter fonts? TML modula_2 November 1987 Tech Notes DispPICT 1987 Form 1040 tax template for Excel StuffIt 1.31 (3 files) MacKermit 0.9(36)b4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: C Date: Sat, 23 Jan 88 18:13:05 -0800 From: Jerry Sweet <jsweet@ICS.UCI.EDU> I've heard good things about Lightspeed C too, but probably the best long-term path to take is to use MPW and MPW C. MPW is supported directly by Apple. Many third-party vendors are attracted to MPW. MPW C is pretty fast, particularly on a Macintosh II. Refer to the December, 1987 issue of BYTE magazine for information on MPW C. To get MPW stuff, you have to join APDA ($20/year). Their phone number is (206) 251-9798. -jns [ Everyone has an opinion. JP :-] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 88 17:17:51 -0500 (EST) From: Leslie Burkholder <lb0q+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: C compilers Will any C compilers for the Mac produce faster executing code than Lightspeed C produces? Thanks, LB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 88 11:32 EST From: <EE2Y%CRNLVAX5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Re: Cheap Beep tips For those of you trying to get Cheap Beep to work: You put the Control Panel device into your System Folder, along with a folder containing Beep sounds saved in SoundCap/SoundWave format. Just name this folder "Beeps", for example. Select Control Panel from Apple menu, then choose Cheap Beep icon. You'll then be shown a list of all the folders within the System Folder. Click on the one named "Beeps", and the beeps within this folder will be listed in the bottom window. Click on any sound and hit <Enter> to play it. When you've found one you like, leave it highlighted, close the Control Panel, and restart the Mac. The restarting is necessary for the sound to become the default "Beep" sound. If you still can't get it to work, then your Cheap Beep has problems. Oh, make SURE you're using System 4.1 or higher--the one with cdev icons available in the Control Panel. BTW, I've seen a similar program, IBEEP2. This doesn't seem to work as smoothly as Cheap Beep, ie: bombs the Mac sometimes. Plus, you're limited to far fewer sounds w/ IBEEP2. Brian Campbell Cornell Univ. ee2y@crnlvax5 BITNET ee2y@crnlvax5.ccs.cornell.edu INTERNET ------------------------------ From: mimsy!rutgers!pc.ecn.purdue.edu!pur-ee!wards@uunet.UU.NET From: (Sherman Ward) Subject: Req Info - start up disks Date: 27 Jan 88 14:42:40 GMT ------- I am looking for information/opinions regarding "Startup disks". I am in charge of organizing and updating the "startup disks" for a dozen "secretarial" (#1) users. I want to use only "standard" and "pure" Apple finder/system on my 12 (1 MEG, 2 800K disk) Macintosh SE startup disks with Appleshare 1.0. My experience has been with UNIX on VAX 11/780's. I am ignorant and naive as to the inner workings on a Mac . My concerns are in 3 areas: 1) Size of the system .vs. functionallity A) Here is the system/finders which I have available: < info about dates & sizes on finder, system, & laser drivers > < deleted > B) Questions: what does the increase in size 'buy me'?? >From @apple.com:han@apple.apple.com Thu Jan 21 13:51:18 1988 #2 >The increased size results from system enhancements and bug fixes. what is the optimal scrap area (temporary file space)?? C) What I know at this point: i) all stations MUST run the same Laserwriter version or the laser will re-initialize with each change. ii) some systems & finders will not live peaceably with out the appropriate mate(s). 2) Stability A) What is the least trouble some 'collection' of system software?? Which ones have received the least trouble/bug reports during the first 6 months of release? (Apple you should be able to help) B) What system version are software developers using?? >From @apple.com:han@apple.apple.com Thu Jan 21 13:51:18 1988 >The *ABSOLUTE* bare minumum that I would even consider using would be >Finder 5.5/System 4.1. Doing so may result in bad things. Doing so is >at your own risk and you can't blame Apple or third party developers >for crashes. 3) Downward/Upward compatibility A) What is the 'base line' system? Is there a guarentee that Apple will 'allways' support and never change the base?? >From @apple.com:han@apple.apple.com Thu Jan 21 13:51:18 1988 >Use the most recent Laserwriter Drivers available. *NOTE* I purchased 2 packages (MS Word 3.01 & RSG 3) which were distributed with Laser Driver 3.1. I install the "Latest & Greatest" Laser Driver & weird things begin to happen - especially with legal size pages Now (minor FLAME): Is it the developers fault that their product does not work correctly when APPLE changes the BASE environment?? What would you recommend - 1) Stay current or 2) Use what works? (I use what works and hope like h%%% that my next set of software uses the same environment :-) Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. I will summarize if there is enough interest. #1 the label "Secretarial users" is not intended to be derogatory, but their basic attitude is "give me just enough to perform my job and don't confuse me with the details". #2 I take Byron Han's comments for His opinion & not Apple Policy +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |ARPA: wards@pa.ecn.purdue.edu USENET:wards@ecn-pa.UUCP | | {decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|seismo|ucbvax}!pur-ee!wards | +-------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ |SNAIL:Sherman Ward / Freshman Engineering / Purdue University | | Rm 221 Engineering Admin. Bldg. / West Lafayette, IN 47907 | +-------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 88 14:38 EST From: <SERETNY%HARTFORD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Bernoulli Box on Mac ][ Unless IoMega have changed their drivers, I cannot recommend their line of products. Their drives will simply not boot <startup> on machines more recent than the Mac Plus. I use a 10+10 (not by choice! my ST238R is down) and must boot a floppy containing their Tools disk <which I've patched to return immediately upon launch to ease the process somewhat of mounting the suckers> {I own an SE w/HyperCharger {another iffy product! There is no 68020 disable!!!}} Yours, Robert M. Seretny SERETNY@HARTFORD.Bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 88 18:04 +0100 From: Arve Kaaresen <a_kaaresen_a%use.uio.uninett@TOR.nta.no> Subject: CMS/SCSI hard disk My department have a Mac Plus with a HD20 hard disk. Recently we purchases a CMS/SCSI 80 MB hard disk system. Do anybody out there know whether it is possible to connect both systems to the Mac and make them work together? Thanks. ------- Arve ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 88 17:26:00 EST From: "Kang Sun" <sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu> Subject: LaTex and its previewver on Macintosh requested Reply-to: "Kang Sun" <sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu> Greeting, Can someone send me copies of LaTex and its previewer that run on Macintosh? Thanks. -- Kang Sun sun@yalevms.bitnet sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun 24 Jan 88 23:36:22-PST From: TOM MALER <RIORDAN.MALER@BIONET-20.ARPA> Subject: DNA analysis on the Mac This is in reply to the question from David Detlefsen @ub.cc.umich.edu concerning DNA analysis public domain programs for the Mac. >Date: Wed, 6 Jan 88 23:06:40 EST >From: David_Detlefsen@ub.cc.umich.edu >Subject: DNA and protein sequence analysis? >Has anyone seen any public domain or shareware programs for DNA >and protein sequence analysis for the Macintosh? There are indeed a number of excellent public domain programs that were ported (and adopted to run on the Mac) by Dr. Peter Markiewicz. They are: MOLGENJR1.2 -> this is DNA analysis program DNAANALYZE 1.2 -> this is another DNA analysis program t-RNA search programs punyedit 1.0 -> this is a small editor for enering sequences THREEalign 1.0 -> aligns 3 protein sequences (not for DNA) FASTP 2.1 ->this is the famous protein database search program RDF 2.1 ->evaluates a significance of a match from a fastp search Libprot 2.1 -> extracts a file from the protein database The protein database is also supplied -> is in a no. a smaller files on the disk and these can be concatenated on hard disk If you want to obtain these programs you can get in touch with Dr. Peter Markiewicz at: Dept. of Viral Biology, USAMRIID Ft. Detrick, MD 21701 (301) 6637241 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 88 16:54:10 JST From: nojima@nuesun.NTT (NOJIMA Hisao) Subject: How to use Mac for Reaction Time experiments ? Reply-to: nojima@ntt.junet (NOJIMA Hisao) One of my colleagues asked me the following question. Any information on this will be appreciated. Thansk in advance. --- Do you think it is possible to use Mac for controlling RT experiment, especially using a voice key. I found a number of people are pretty negative, but some others report that they used it. I would appreciate any of your suggestions. GIYOO Name: NOJIMA Hisao [NOJIMA is my family name] Name(Kanji): $@LnEg!!5WM:(J Address: nojima%ntt.jp@relay.cs.net (From Internet) Organization: NTT Basic Research Laboratory 0422-59-4336 ------------------------------ From: ARMSTRONG@STMARYS.BITNET Date: Tue, 26 Jan 88 22:11 AST Subject: Word 3.01 I am unable to get Word 3.01 to start up from any document which it has created, although those documents can be opened from within Word. This applies to documents which run perfectly well on the Mac I have at home. At the office, where the problem is, we are running a Mac Plus with 2 Megs (MacMemory Plus, 256K chips), an FX-20 hard drive in SCSI position 6 and a Photon 30 hard drive in position 0. Word coexisted happily with this configuration until last week. I opened the Mac to examine the memory (I couldn't remember whether it occupied two or four slots--two is the answer.) Upon reassembly Word had lost the ability to open from a document. Other programs (Word 1.05 and Filemaker Plus, for example) have no such difficulty with their documents. The system has no trouble when Word is run from a floppy, but the problem occurs with either hard disk as the startup disk, with either system 3.2 or 4.2, and with the Photon removed from the system. (I seem to be unable to get the system to recognize the Photon if it is the only drive on SCSI bus, although I have run it that way in the past. It has an external terminator block. I have removed the internal terminator. That is suspicious, but when the Photon is physically removed the problem persists with a single SCSI cable to the FX-20 alone. I rebuilt the desktop. I got a fresh copy of Word 3.01 from the master. Finally, I make a backup with Fastback, reinitialized the FX-20, put a new copy of the system on it, and restored my files. No dice. The problem persists. I'll appreciate whatever help you can give me. Thanks. Stan Armstrong ARMSTRONG@STMARYS (NetNorth/BitNet) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 88 00:04:00 EST From: "Kang Sun" <sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu> Subject: Question: where are the laserwriter fonts? Reply-to: "Kang Sun" <sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu> Greeting! In my pictures drawed by MacDraw, I used quite a bit the font Symbol. However, when I generate a postscript file out of it (by press K or F while clicking on OK), the system says that the printer cannot find the font Symbol. Is it possible to somehow load the font Symbol to the printer? I think it is handled somewhere in the LaserPrep file. Does anyone has any idea? -- Kang Sun sun@yalevms.bitnet sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu ------------------------------ From: Paul Skuce <mcvax!hatfield.ac.uk!comtps@uunet.UU.NET> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 88 16:41:33 GMT Subject: TML modula_2 We are looking around for another Modula2 complier to replace our version 4.1 Modula2 complier from the Modula Corp. Has anyone used the TML compiler or can anyone recomend another Modula2 compiler. Thanks in advance Paul Skuce Hatfield Polytechnic, School Information Science, P.O. box109 College Lane, Hatfield, England, AL10 9AB comtps%hatfield.ac.uk%mcvax%seismo%.. from States comtps@hatfield.ac.uk JANET comtps%uk.ac.hatfield@UKACRL EARN ------------------------------ Date: Fri 11 Dec 87 22:37:34-PST From: Bill Lipa <P.PRIAPUS@MACBETH.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: November 1987 Tech Notes I'm sending TN00, TN129 (a revised tech note), TN163, TN164, and TN165 to info-mac@sumex. I'll send the others as soon as time permits. Please tell me if they don't come through correctly! Bill [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN000.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN129.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN163.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN164.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN165.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN166.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN167.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN168.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN169.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN170.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN171.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN172.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN173.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN174.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN175.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN176.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN177.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN178.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN179.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN180.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN181.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN182.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN183.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>TN-INDEX-WORD.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 87 22:38:25 est From: fry%huma1@harvard.harvard.edu Subject: DispPICT This is version 1.2 of DispPICT, a XCMD for displaying full color and gray scale pictures inside HyperCard on a Mac II. It will open any PICT file, or GrayView file (i.e, file with PICT resouce with ID=0). It has many options, including the ability to specify a windowing environment (complete with size box, close box, scroll bars, and zoom box), or a borderless fixed window, like a Post-IT picture. You can ask it to use the document's native color table for best possible realism, or use the colors currently on the system. You can tell it to wait for the user to close the window, or to close the window automatically after some specified time. You have complete control of where the window will appear on the screen. The best part is it reports back to HyperCard the pixel coordinates of the last click inside the picture. That way your scripts can branch conditionally depending upon which part of a window the user clicked on, sort of like transparent buttons. Please send bugs and comments to: David Fry fry@huma1.harvard.EDU Department of Mathematics fry@harvma1.bitnet Harvard University ...!harvard!huma1!fry Cambridge, MA 02138 [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>HYPERCARD-XCMD-DISPLAY-PICT-12.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: 22 December 87 15:04 EST From: M3QJ%CORNELLC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: 1987 Form 1040 tax template for Excel The following BinHexed file contains a StuffIted file with a very nice 1987 form 1040 tax template for Excel. To use it you will need to use BinHex to unhex it and then use StuffIt to extract the files. There is information built into the spreadsheet describing how to obtain a complete set of templates for tax forms. Feel free to pass this on to anyone and any network. I'm only forwarding this for a friend, so no mail to me, please. [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>EXCEL-1987-TAXFORM-1040.HQX - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon 18 Jan 88 11:42:09-GMT From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR> Subject: StuffIt 1.31 (3 files) [ Uploaded from Delphi by Jeff Shulman ] Name: STUFFIT 1.31 Date: 17-JAN-1988 17:21 by RAYMONDLAU [ Updated 17-JAN-1988 17:21 by RAYMONDLAU to version 1.31. 1.31 now has full MultiFinder compat, adds BinHex support and includes segmenter/joiner. ] v1.0 adds full support of unpacking, incl. conversion. Fixes many bugs and adds a few enhancements (like renaming entries & recognition of large screens) StuffIt is a Mac file archival/compression utility utilizing mainly Lempel-Ziv compression. This makes it faster and on the average, more efficient than other compression utilities currently available for the Mac. Furthermore, you can extract any file from an archive easily (first,from the middle or last), add more files at a later date, remove files. To provide compatibility, there is also an UnPack feature (which *I* do not claim to be faster than PackIt). [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-STUFFIT-131-PART1.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-STUFFIT-131-PART2.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-STUFFIT-131-DOC.HQX Version 1.2 will remain in PackIt format for compatibility. - Lance ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 88 23:25:09 PST From: Barrett P. Eynon <barry@playfair.stanford.edu> Subject: MacKermit 0.9(36)b4 Here is the latest version of MacKermit. This version works on the Mac II and with Multifinder. [First unbinhex, then use StuffIt. Cmd-Q appears to be disabled in this version. - Lance ] [archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>KERMIT-0936B4.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>KERMIT-0936B4-DOC.HQX I will remove Kermit 0.8(34) once a non-beta version of Kermit appears in <INFO-MAC>. - Lance ] ------------------------------ End of INFO-MAC Digest **********************