[comp.sys.mac.digest] INFO-MAC Digest V6 #70

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Jon Pugh and Lance Nakata) (08/06/88)

INFO-MAC Digest          Saturday, 6 Aug 1988      Volume 6 : Issue 70

Today's Topics:
                             Netter's Dinner
                           Hard drive question
                       Looking for Ray Traced Demo
                          Statistical Packages
                           desktop file purger
                                help....
                Accessing Mac laserprep/postscript files
                           interface to LN03R
               Sending postscript files to a laser printer
                     Apple Asynch Laserwriter Driver
             Identifying disconnections/breaks in Appletalk


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Date: 	  Fri, 5 Aug 88 16:01:59 PDT
From: PUGH@NMFECC.ARPA
Subject: Netter's Dinner

From Robert Hammen:

Here are the finalized details for the Netters Dinner, which will be held at
6:30 PM on Friday, August 12th at the Shanghai Restaurant in Chinatown, on the
east side of Boston. The Shanghai is located at 21 Hudson Street; the
reservation is under the name "MacWorld".

We'll have two meeting points for persons wishing to go to the dinner. The
first meeting point will be in front of the Bayside Expo Center at 5:30 PM.
We'll take the MBTA to South Station; the Shanghai is about a 5 minute walk
from there. The second meeting point will be the Commonwealth Pier, again at
around 5:30. It's about a 15 minute walk from there to the Shanghai.

After the dinner, we've all been invited to attend the BMUG party, which will
be held at the Boston Tea Party. It promises to be an interesting and
entertaining evening.

The following people have announced their intentions to attend the dinner. We
still have room for a few people, so if you'd like to come, please reach me at
one of the E-mail locations listed at the end of the message. The last time I
will read my messages is Wednesday afternoon...

Usenet/ARPA
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barrys@apple.apple.com                          Barry J. Semo
preese%SOE.Berkeley.EDU@jade.berkeley.edu       Phil Reese
tecot@apple.apple.com                           Ed Tecot
richard_vernon_ford@cup.portal.com              Richard Vernon Ford
lloyd!kent@hscfvax.harvard.edu                  Kent Borg
unisoft!paul@ucbvax.berkeley.edu                Paul Campbell
harvard!dartvax!uunet!eplrx7!lad                Lawrence A. Deleski
daf1%gte.com@RELAY.CS.NET                       David Fay
WARD@NOSC-TECR.ARPA                             1
mailrus!cornell!rochester!ritcv!jlw2232         Joshua L. Weinberg
wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu                            William M. Bumgarner (3)
dasys1!alexis@UUNET.uu.net                      Alexis Rosen
woody@tybalt.caltech.edu                        William Edward Woody
tldavis@Athena.MIT.EDU                          Timothy Davis
Gregor_Rittinger@um.cc.umich.edu                Gregor Rittinger
landman@hanami.sun.com                          Howard A. Landman
eddings@bgsu.edu                                Ken Eddings
dwb@apple.apple.com                             David W. Berry
beekman@mist.cs.orst.edu                        George Beekman (maybe)
portal!cup.portal.com!Tim_M_Dierks@Sun.COM      Tim M Dierks (maybe)
steinmetz!vita@uunet.UU.NET                     Mark Vita (4)
freund@nada.kth.se                              Peter Freund
steph@CS.UCLA.EDU                               Stephen Sakamoto
mw2k+@andrew.cmu.edu                            Miles Asher Weissman
pugh@nmfecc.arpa                                Jon Pugh
garage.att.com!ggr                              Guy Riddle
Art Goodall@OFFICE-1.ARPA                       Art Goodall

Delphi
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HAMMEN, MADMACS, PEABO, JEFFS, MACWEEKBOS, DRITTNER, DDUNHAM, JIMH,
KWILLEY, PIPPIN, NWOLF

Robert J. Hammen
hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu

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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 88 09:37 CST
From: <CCLARK%UTMEM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> (The Ayatollah
From: Computer - Cole Clark)
Subject: Hard drive question

An SE with 20 meg drive was recently brought to my attention when its
desktop came up absolutely blank.  The disk boots, and close examination
of the disk with FEdit shows all the files to be "there" but they simply
don't show up on the desktop.  I have tried all the cliched methods of
rebuilding the desktop, but the results are always the same - a blank one.

If anyone has encountered this phenomena and have a solution, would you
please send a reply ASAP.

Frank C Clark, Jr.
University of Tennessee, Memphis
CCLARK@UTMEM1 (bitnet)
FCCLARKJR (GEnie)

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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 88 02:21:24 EDT
From: John Matthews <matthews@vax1.acs.udel.edu>
Subject: Looking for Ray Traced Demo

Sorry to bother you guys with a request, but you're probably one of the
best places to start.  I am looking for the image (and others too) that
first appeared on a poster for the Mac II when it was first being
introduced.  If this image (and hopefully a format document) are available
in your archives, could you please give me the file name(s)?  Is
COLOR-FLOATING-BALL.HQX what I am looking for?  I don't have a Mac II so
I can't check it out.  I am interested in this image because it was so
sharp.  I would like to use it to test some display software.
Any pointers to other good bit mapped images would also be appreciated.
				Thanks in Advance,
					John Matthews
					matthews@udel.edu

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From: W1.WELCH%CHIP.UChicago.EDU@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Date: Sat 16 Jul 88 22:35:47-CDT
Subject: Statistical Packages


I am a recent convert  from a PC to a  MAC-II. I didn't realize  until
now that  there seems  to be  a lack  of high-powered  but  affordable
statistical and mathematical packages (for the social sciences) on the
MAC. For  some  reason, I  had  thought of  the  MAC as  the  academic
discount machine...

In   particular,   I   am   surprised   that   (1)   I   can't    find
mainframe-compatible or programmable  packages like Gauss,  Speakeasy,
SCA, S etc.  (2)  that Mathematica's academic  discount makes it  $430
cheap...; that may be fine  for faculty, but for students  Mathematica
is just out.  (3) that Excel is more stifled on the MAC than it is  on
the PC, etc.

Anyway, here is a short report on one acquisition of mine: I  recently
got myself a copy of  Mathview. I am a  bit disappointed. It does  not
permit any programming (or piecewise  functions) whatsoever. I got  it
to try out graphics.  Unfortunately, it does not allow to specify  the
y-dimensions. If you plot  a few functions over  a common domain,  and
one has an asymptote within this domain, the action takes place on the
bottom 2% of the  screen... In general, my  impression is that if  you
ask for the company's prospectus, it lists precisely what the  package
does; I made  the mistake of  considering it a  sample, rather than  a
complete list. In  sum, Mathview is  ok if you  know EXACTLY what  you
want is listed in the prospectus.  But it's extremely inflexible.   On
the  good  size,  this  inflexibility   makes  for  quite  a  bit   of
userfriendliness: you  select, the  program asks  you a  few  built-in
questions. That's it.

My questions  are  these:  Does  anybody  have  a  list  of  available
math/stats packages with a good description of capabilities/value  for
the  MAC?   Does  anyone  have  experience  with  Kinko's   Courseware
offerings (are they good/bad?) ?

Moreover, where would one get a good listing of PD/shareware programs?
I.e. one that says a  few lines about what's  good and what's bad.  Is
there a PD/SW Texktronix Terminal Emulator? I appreciate any info.

Ivo

PHD_IVO@GSBACD.UCHICAGO.EDU
or sometimes
PHD_IVO%GSBACD.UCHICAGO.EDU

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Date: Thursday, 28 July 1988 10:28am
From: zoda537@UTA3081.CC.UTEXAS.EDU ("Josh Hayes")
Subject: desktop file purger

Howdy.

I've had to rebuild my desktop several times now to speed up
performance (twice) or fix incessant crashing (twice).  Surely,
surely, there exists a DA or small utility that can be called
upon to clean out the bloated desktop.  Anybody know one, and
where it might be obtained?  I have access to sumex archives,
if that helps.  Direct e-mail would probably be the best way
to reply---thanks!

Josh Hayes                        zoda537@uta3081.bitnet
Department of Zoology             j.a.hayes@uta3081.cc.utexas.edu
University of Texas
Austin, TX  78712

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Date: Fri,  5 Aug 88 10:36:28 EST
From: SIANI@nssdca.GSFC.NASA.GOV
Subject: help....

Question for you all...

   One of the people in our office has an apple macintosh plus with a
data frame 30 hd & is running finder 5.5 & sysem 4.1.  The problem
is that whenever some applications create files (for example. microsoft
word) the finder does not recognize the document as being created by that
application.  When you double click the document it says that it cannot
find an application. (even though ms word is in the same directory).

   This doesn't happen with all applications though.  For example, mac draw
documents are saved okay. (you are able to double click the document to get
at the file).  But macdraw II files are not saved correctly.

   To this point the only way to get around it is to go into the application
and then open the document by hand (mighty tediousif you have 500 files spread
across 20 different folders.)

Please reply directly to me as I do not read info-mac regularly.

Thanx,
Michael Kirby

siani@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (internet)

mpk9172@ritvax.bitnet (bitnet)

[Moderator's Note:

This is a bundle bit problem and is very serious.  I keep finding docs
with their bundle bit set.  Scott Boyd announced in MacTutor that he had a
hack that went looking for these files.  Let's see if it can be posted!
Meanwhile, someone at Apple should be looking into this.  If not a fix,
a garbage collector at least.  One bundle bit can screw up access to all your
documents!

Jon] 2-Aug-88 21:55:31-PDT,1614;000000000001

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Date: Tue, 2 Aug 88 14:50:08 MDT
From: gellman%mv2.UNCA.Adhocnet.CA%UNCAEDU.BITnet@Forsythe.Stanford.ED
From: U (Ruben Gellman)
Subject: Accessing Mac laserprep/postscript files

Hello:
I have a new Mac SE and I want to use a PostScript laser printer
(QMS-800PS) located elsewhere and hooked onto a non-Apple
workstation (Apollo) to print my Mac stuff. I know that
I can get a PostScript file dumped to disk on the Mac by hitting
Command-F after asking for a print; I can transfer this file by
modem to the Apollo, but it won't print out. Reason is, the
PS file assumes a prolog or header file (presumably Laserprep) has
been sent ot the laser printer, defining a whole bunch of things.
Any idea how I can generate or get hold of the relevant laserprep/
header/prolog PS file?

I don't normally read info-mac, so please reply to me directly
(on BITNET) at: GELLMAN @ UNCAEDU.BITNET

Thanks
        Reuben Gellman

[Moderator's Note:

Tell the net too!  I have a TI OmniLaser printer hooked to our VMS VAX and
I have had no luck at all printing to it.  Any clues?

Jon] 2-Aug-88 13:32:11-PDT,920;000000000001

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Date: Tue, 2 Aug 88 16:34:58 EDT
From: Richard J. Solomon <rjs@media-lab.media.mit.edu>
Subject: interface to LN03R

Is there a hardware device for a DEC Scriptprinter which would emulate an
Appletalk interface so I could connect a Mac directly to the LNO3R (with
PostScript)? Currently I use a null modem cable and download PostScript
files through a terminal program at 19.2 kbps, but this is very slow and
prone to bit errors. Is there any Laserprep software for the Mac configured
properly for the LN03R's peculiarities?

Richard Solomon MIT Media Lab 617 253-5159

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Date: 3 Aug 88 17:13:00 EDT
From: <brun@nrl-lcp.arpa>
Subject: Sending postscript files to a laser printer

This is probably a very witless question, but how does one go about sending
a text file with postscript code in it to a LaserWriter?  Just doing
"print" from the finder clearly doesn't work.  Please email me, since
I don't read this newsgroup all that often...

Todd Brun                         Laboratory of Computational Physics
BRUN@NRL-LCP.ARPA                 Naval Research Laboratory
BRUN@NRL-GONZO.ARPA               Washington, D.C.
"Feezeeks?  Ve don't need no lousy feezeeks!"

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 88 11:41:38 CDT
From: wombat%vger@xenurus.Gould.COM (Joan Eslinger)
Subject: Apple Asynch Laserwriter Driver

This is a request for a friend who doesn't have net access. He said he
is trying to use the 'Apple asynchronous laserwriter driver' and is
having no luck getting it to work. If someone out there knows something
about the beast and is willing to help, could you please mail me your
name and phone number and I'll forward it to him. Or if you want to
contact him:

Rolf Wilson
(217) 244-2514

Joan Eslinger
wombat@xenurus.gould.com
uunet!uiucuxc!urbsdc!wombat

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 88 14:25:47 EDT
From: sdl@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Litvintchouk)
Subject: Identifying disconnections/breaks in Appletalk


If this sounds like a naive question, I apologize in advance....

Does anyone know of any software or whatever that can identify
breaks/disconnections in an Appletalk network?

We've had a number of annoying occurrences where an Appletalk
connector loosened up (maybe someone accidentally pulled one loose),
resulting in several Macs on our Appletalk net getting effectively
disconnected from the net (unable to print to the Laserwriter, etc.).
(The daisy-chain nature of Appletalk means that a disconnection in some
office can affect many other offices.)  Finding the loose connection
was a hit-or-miss affair.

Is there any software or whatever that can periodically poll Appletalk
and identify disconnections on the net, or perhaps find those
Appletalk ports that are inaccessible (say, from the Laserwriter
port)?  Or are there other ways to deal with such problems?

Please reply directly to me as I am not a regular subscriber to this
newsgroup.  Thanx very much in advance!


Steven Litvintchouk
MITRE Corporation
Burlington Road
Bedford, MA  01730
(617)271-7753

ARPA:  sdl@mitre-bedford.arpa
UUCP:  ...{cbosgd,decvax,genrad,ll-xn,mit-eddie,philabs,utzoo}!linus!sdl

	"Those who will be able to conquer software will be able to
	 conquer the world."  -- Tadahiro Sekimoto, president, NEC Corp.

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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 88 10:34:46 -0900
Reply-to: <SXWRR%ALASKA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: <SXWRR%ALASKA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
From: Reed Rector                     
From: <SXWRR%ALASKA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>

        I have been looking for a 'C' that I can afford with a source level
debugger. I have seen Manx's latest ad talking of Aztec 'C' with a debugger
for a special low price until the end of August. Does anyone out there use
Aztec, especially the new version with the debugger? I would really like to
see some comments about it.
        I do realize that LSC has a source-level debugger also, but I don't
think I'll have more than 1 meg for quite a while.

     Thanks in advance,
        Reed Rector
        SXWRR@ALASKA    (bitnet)

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