Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Jon Pugh and Lance Nakata) (10/31/88)
INFO-MAC Digest Monday, 31 Oct 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 98
Today's Topics:
Detecting nVIR
CMS Drives with virus
recent infestation by nVIR
nVIR found in Stella!
INFO-MAC Digest V6
NeXT-L Computer Discussion List
Reply to T. Siegman
NeXT Mac
C
Creating cdevs II
A pulldown menu question
RDEV docs
Stanford SMTP
Specs for Quantum!{Q540 Hard Disk Drive
Do-It-Yourself Mac SCSI Hard Drive
MacDraw bomb
Is it MacDraw or the system?!
Problem printing, a second posting..
Laserwriter Driver Bugs?
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 88 13:51:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Phillip J. Heil" <ph1q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Detecting nVIR
I have found that the desk accessory Virus Detective is pretty effective for
detecting the nVIR Virus. Other than that, the only other way is to peek into
the resources to find nVIR.
If you would like more information on how to detect and vaccinate against nVIR
please let me know, and I will forward information from the local bboard here
at CMU.
Phillip Heil
ph1q+@andrew.cmu.edu
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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 12:05 EDT
From: "Maj. Doug Hardie" <Hardie@DOCKMASTER.ARPA>
Subject: CMS Drives with virus
I recently purchased a CMS SD43 40 meg hard disk for my Mac. I like the
drive real well. However, the utilities provided by CMS for the disk
and the associated System contain the nVIR virus. I know they were on
the floppy disk, but am not sure about the original versions on the hard
disk. I ran the utilities off the floppy before I discovered the hard
disk came with them already there. After this wonderful discovery, a
friend also bought one of those drives and found the same critter. The
CMS utility program can be cleaned up and then works nicely.
-- Doug
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Date: Tuesday, 25 October 1988 1:31pm
From: ZODA537@UTA3081.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (J.A.HAYES)
Subject: recent infestation by nVIR
I posted this to my local Mac board, and perhaps there is some
general interest in this kind of situation in info-mac land.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
We recently got infected by a virus of the nVIR persuasion, and
upon checking departmental disks with Interferon (3.1), found that
damn near all the disks in the entire department had been infected
by the little booger. Most of the privately owned Macs around
the department were infected, most with hard disks. At least two
faculty members had their Macs at home infected as well....the moral
is, viruses are real, and worrying about them is not, NOT paranoia.
I suggest the following for folks who run/use public Macs or Mac
clusters:
1. Install Vaccine in ALL system folders to be used on the net.
It ain't perfect, but it works pretty darn well.
2. Check your disks fairly frequently--it takes all of thirty
seconds for me to check my 60M hard disk. It's worth the time
for the peace of mind it provides. If you don't have some
program to check for viruses, GET ONE.
3. Keep up with technology. READ the info-mac and usenet digests,
which this board subscribes to. It is there that new viruses
will first be reported, and it is there that programs to combat
those viruses will be posted.
I used to be vaguely embarassed by my concern about viruses, like
it would never come to my neighborhood. No more. A virus may
endanger a serious investment, about 5K in my case (on a graduate
student's salary, yet!), and more for most Mac users, in equipment and
software. I can't risk that kind of money. Can you?
Josh Hayes, gradual student zoda537@uta3081.bitnet
Zoology Department j.hayes@uta3081.cc.utexas.edu
University of Texas, Austin
Austin, TX 78712
Disclaimer: I'm the only one in the department who even READS
these boards.
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1988 11:08 GVA
Date: 28 October 1988, 08:11:49 ECT
From: Christian Falk 7-593891 FALK at
From: NORUNIT
Subject: nVIR found in Stella!
Today, I received an upgrade disk from High Performance Systems INC, containing
STELLA 2.0 for Academe. Both STELLA and System files contained the
nVIR-resources.I have noticed the company.
Please forward this note !
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1988 00:17:55 LCL
From: David Boeshaar (315) 443-3166
From: <BOESHAAR%SUVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: INFO-MAC Digest V6
I just read with some interest Tony Siegman's comments about the NeXT
machine and have some thoughts:
1. I read the same kind of tirade on the net about the Mac from a
Hard core IBM PC user when the 128K Macintosh was announced, and I
made the same mistake when the IBM PC was announced (I was a mainframer)
2. Where can I buy a truly usable Mac for $1000??? What kind of work can I
get done with 1 floppy drive and no printer? Not even students deserve
that kind of punishment. If we are just talking cash, students get a
MUCH better buy with an MSDOS clone with a hard disk (GASP!)
3. Color is a critical characteristic in Computer Assisted Instruction.
Most of us can make do with monochrome 512*512 but it is just make do.
4. When EVER has ANY machine been fast enough? have enough memory?
or EVER enough storage for educational uses? Machines for students and
learning environments need to be bigger/faster/better than any business
system.
5. Machines MUST grow. Technology MUST go on, and we as educators must
be sure we drive the industry harder and farther. Most of them, esp.
Apple and IBM got where they are today because of the education market.
Like most, I don't have the funds to build a 50 station NeXT lab and I am
not sure that I would even if I had the money (How many color Macs could I
get for that kind of money?) But we must always look to the future.
There will always be leaders and followers in the computer industry, I just
hope educators can get out of the way if they can't lend a hand.
So Apple, Where is my 5mb RAM, 30 mb hard disk color SE for $1500.00?
Dkb :)
David K. Boeshaar ACADEMIC COMPUTING SERVICES
______ SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
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|__| OR I THINK I DON'T REMEMBER!
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 88 18:39:00 EDT
From: Atul Butte <ATUL%BROWNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: NeXT-L Computer Discussion List
A new Bitnet list has been created for the discussion of the NeXT
Computer. To subscribe, send a message to LISTSERV AT BROWNVM:
SUBSCRIBE NEXT-L
Atul Butte
Student Manager, Macintosh Development
Brown University
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 88 02:51:48 EDT
From: Leon King <KINGLEON%HUMBER.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Reply to T. Siegman
Tony Siegman wrote (A Contrarian view to Next) that he was not interested
in NeXT because
1. Of his large investment in current machinery (MACs, thank God,
not PCs, though this is a common argument against MACs)
2. A $6500+/workstation cost, making it unaffordable for students.
Come on! The market for NeXT is not your average undergrad who needs an
entry level machine. In fact, I would hesitate to say that NeXT's target
is the MAC at all, rather its Apollo and Sun. Your graduate students
might be candidates for using this machine, as might your computer science
students. At this point in time its main use is as a development machine.
For myself, I'm going to adopt a wait and see approach. The erasable
optical disk will probably find its way onto other machines. The postscript
interface is interesting, and the nu-bus architecture suggests some
interesting developments down the road. The bundled in software could be
acquired elsewhere, but would you have a common base of software. (You
could make a PC look similar to a MAC using windows, etc, but at what cost
of time, and how well would it work.) One has to see how good the overall
environment is, and does it save you time in development. (An easier to
learn toolbox could easily justify any number of other sins.)
All in all though, I think Steve Jobs has put together a very good bang for
the buck, and I would not be disappointed if Stanford, et al did invest in
a few machines. Personally I'd like to try one out (but sigh, we just
bought a house in Toronto's overinflated market), and its unlikely that the
local beancounters would spill some beans over this one, but then, they think
buying MACs is more expensive than having the secretarial staff learn
WordPerfect on PCs.
By the way, does anyone know if the U.S. university price would extend to
a community college instructor up in Canada?
[Moderator's Note: Sorry. Steve said USA only for an indeterminate period.
--Jon]
Leon King, Toronto Canada
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Whats scary is ... yesterday used to be the future.
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 08:21:16 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: NeXT Mac
>I am just a little worried. Stve Jobs seems to have proved where he was
>at all this time with the NeXT machine. The thing is fabulous and
>innovative, and at $6500 it blows the Mac // out of the water.
It DOES have a 25 MHz 68030, BUT the disk drive has an average access time
of 60 ms AND the CPU has to form all the images for the laser printer.
According to PC Week, Write 2.0 is 25% faster on a 16 MHz Mac II.
The NeXt machine will be marketed EXCLUSIVELY to the higher education
market (perhaps) in the 2nd quarter of 1989 (it's vaporware until you
can take one home). And software will have to be distributed on disks
that cost $50 blank (adding a whole new meaning to "freeware").
By the time you actually can buy a NeXt computer, the Mac III (also
25 MHz) will be available. The best that can be said for the NeXt
computer is that it will require Apple to set a less outrageous price
on the Mac III than they otherwise might have.
>Question.. does anyone believe Apple will try to beef up the Mac to compete
>with NeXT, and thus, once again, scrap most avery project for the Apple //
>including the //GS+?
The next generation of Mac's has been under development for some time.
A "crash program" won't be necessary. IIgs+ development (or lack of same)
shouldn't be affected.
If the rumored "Golden Gate" project is for real, you may not need a IIgs+
anyway (the next Vaporware column will be uploaded in a few days :-).
[The Far Side shall return (I hope)]
Murph Sewall Sewall@UCONNVM.BITNET
Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET]
U of Connecticut {rutgers psuvax1 ucbvax & in Europe - mcvax}
!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP]
-+- My employer isn't responsible for my mistakes AND vice-versa!
(subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)
"Close enough for government work" - source unknown (naturally ;-)
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 88 14:48:09 SST
From: TNG TH <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: C
I am starting to program for the Mac. I have heard of two environments:
Lightspeed C, and MPW and Aztec. Can anyone tell me the relative
advantages of the three packages? I have programmed on SUNs before, but
I am not discounting LSC, yet. Please mail your replies directly to me
at ISSTTH@NUSVM. Thanks.
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Date: 30 April 88
From: SYSTU001@GRCRUN11
SUBJECT: About Macintosh Toolbox.
Hi folks |
Is there any short description for the routins of Macintosh toolbox ?
Where can I find informations on how to call them from
Mac Advantage UCSD Pascal ?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Regards,
Giannis. k . (SYSTU001@GRCRUN11.BITNET)
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 88 15:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt McNally <mm3d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Creating cdevs II
My cdev woes continue...
Well I'm still trying to create (compile and link) Apple's example
cdev that they provide in Inside Macintosh Volume V. After my last
post I received an example cdev that, although it actually worked,
doesn't use any of the PackIntf routines for strings and such. As
Apple's example "Uses Memtypes, QuickDraw, OSIntf, ToolIntf, PackIntf"
I would like to get cdev running that also uses all of those libraries.
I have included the header of the Pascal code below as well as the
output that occurs when I attempt to link the object code. I'm
guessing when I link with 'Interface.o' and 'PasLib.o', but I haven't
been able to locate a special runtime library for cdev's like
DRVRRuntime.
I PETITION YOU! If you can help me out or know of someone who has built
Apple's sample CDEV (which I assume *someone* at Apple has done :-)
could you please send me the correct variation of the Link command.
I'm sure I'm missing something fairly obvious, but I think I may be
on the verge of going insane and purchasing a Windows environment
machine...
Please send replies to mm3d@andrew.cmu.edu
If there is an interest I'll post the finalized sources and make
instructions to the net upon completion.
Matt McNally Macintosh II Project Dugan/Programmer
Carnegie Mellon, College of Humanities and Social Sciences
ARPANET: mm3d@andrew.cmu.edu Office: BH239, (412) 268-8454
=====Header For A Sample CDEV=====
{ *** CDEVSamp.P ***: Sample source code for a Macintosh CDEV.
All Pascal and Rez sources extracted from
Inside Macintosh V pp.336-345 -MMM [10/17/88]}
{Portions Copyright 1986,1987 Apple Computer, Inc.
All rights reserved. Etc etc.}
(* === Compilation Parameters ===
pascal CDEVSamp.p
rez CDEVSamp.r -o CDEVSamp
link -t cdev -c McCD -rt cdev=-4064 CDEVSamp.p.o
{MPW}Libraries:Interface.o
{MPW}Libraries:Runtime.o
{MPW}PLibraries:PasLib.o
-o CDEVSamp
*)
Unit cdev;
Interface
Uses
Memtypes, QuickDraw, OSIntf, ToolIntf, PackIntf;
Function CDEVSamp(message, item, numItems, CPanelID:Integer;
theEvent: EventRecord; cdevValue: LongInt;
CPDialog:DialogPtr) :LongInt;
Implementation
...
=====Example Compilation=====
.... Here's how I attempt to compile and link the source code,
please note that the errors only occurr during the link...
pascal CDEVSamp.p
rez CDEVSamp.r -o CDEVSamp
link -t cdev -c McCD -rt cdev=-4064 CDEVSamp.p.o
{MPW}Libraries:Interface.o
{MPW}Libraries:Runtime.o
{MPW}PLibraries:PasLib.o
-o CDEVSamp
### While reading file ""BH239:MPW:Libraries:Runtime.o""
### link: Error Linker error: uninitialized jump table offset = -1
[Repeats Six Above Error 6 times]
### link: Error Linker error: uninitialized jump table offset = -1
### While reading file ""BH239:MPW:PLibraries:PasLib.o""
### link: Error Linker error: uninitialized jump table offset = -1
[...Repeat Above Error 3 times...]
### link: Error Linker error: uninitialized jump table offset = -1
### While reading file ""BH239:MPW:Libraries:Runtime.o""
### link: Error Linker error: uninitialized jump table offset = -1
### link: Error Data to Code reference not supported (no Jump Table).
### link: Errors prevented normal completion.
...As the example cdev uses strings and calls the PackIntf I assume
that I at least have to link with PasLib (and subsequently Runtime),
although I have indeed tried linking without them to no avail...
Thanks in advance for any help.
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From: bwb@andante.UUCP (Bruce Ballard)
Subject: A pulldown menu question
Date: 18 Oct 88 14:33:55 GMT
I've written some programs for the Mac in Lightspeed C and there's
an occasional problem that the menus when pulled down wipe out the
bits underneath. In one case, obliteration happens every 5th time
I pull down one particular menu, but the other menus don't cause
a problem. Why is this happening? What shoudl I do about it?
-Bruce Ballard allegra!bwb@research.att.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 88 23:08 SET
From: Vincenzo G. Capuano
From: <ASTRASRV%ICNUCEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: RDEV docs
I'm going to write an RDEV. Are there any books/articles on writing
a program for the Chooser ?
Any help welcome.
----
Vincenzo G. Capuano
ASTRASRV@ICNUCEVM.BITNET
ASTRASRV@ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 88 11:56:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Wilson <WILSON/DAVID@scarecrow.waisman.wisc.edu>
Subject: Stanford SMTP
I have just started work on a POP2/SMTP Macintosh mailer to use until
someone else comes out with a reasonable product. I'm trying to do
something quick and dirty starting with the NCSA Telnet source. If
Stanford has already done this, I have no desire to repeat their effort.
Where can I get more information (and source perhaps?) on their mailer?
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 88 22:09:00 GMT
From: CPT Rodney B Roeber <ASBPF-ED@SEOUL-EMH1.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Specs for Quantum!{Q540 Hard Disk Drive
I would like to use a Q540 for a 'Hackintosh' project and need to know the
formatting specs. Seems that info for this drive is scarce. Cann anyone
tell me how many heads, cylinders, etc this drive has? How much precomp,
which is the shipping zone, interleave factor? Has anyone successfully used
RLL formatting? Thanks for any assistance. Please forward responses directly
to me.
Rodney Roeber
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 13:25 AST
From: Stan Armstrong <ARMSTRONG%STMARYS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Do-It-Yourself Mac SCSI Hard Drive
Computer Shopper (Sept. & Oct.) had a recipe for putting together a hard drive
from components. I tried it and it works. The result was a 64 meg drive for
$600 complete with 1 year warrantee and good tech support. I used a Seagate
277N SCSI drive from Hard Drives International, an AppleHive box from
Tulin, a cable from Altex, and Ephraim Vishniac's SF&I for the software.
Seagate supplied me with the information I needed to configure the
software....well, almost.
There is a problem remaining. I am unable to get the Finder to mount the drive.
The disk is formatted, and the driver works (I am able to mount the drive using
the SCSI Bus cdev), but Finder can't find it. (I know you can't boot with the
earlier versions of the MacPlus ROM's, but even if I disable the Unit
Attention, the drive won't mount from a floppy startup.)
If anyone knows the solution, I would sure like to hear from you. If anyone
want more details, I will forward them to you.
Thanks.
Stan Armstrong
Bitnet: ARMSTRONG@STMARYS
uucp: att!clyde!watmath!water!dalcs!armstrng
Phone: (902) 423-2177
Postal: 1607
Edward St.
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada B3H 3H9
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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 22:06 EDT
From: "Maj. Doug Hardie" <Hardie@DOCKMASTER.ARPA>
Subject: MacDraw bomb
When using system 6.0.2 with MacDraw to print a picture on a
lazserwriter, use the show page command and move the image on the page.
Then try printing it. I sometimes get it printed with only 1/3 the
image, sometimes get all of it, and sometimes get a system bomb code 02.
However, if after moving the image I save the picture and then retrieve
it, the print works fine.
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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 20:47 EDT
From: <ELJAZZAR%UTKVX3.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Is it MacDraw or the system?!
We have been using MacDraw 1.9.5 for a long time without the
slightest problem until we upgraded to system 6.0x (not sure
about the exact version).
Here is the problem:
Documents created with MacDraw under the older versions of
the system will not print on our LaserWriter Plus. Errors
(ID=02) keep crashing the system once the LaserWriter starts
"preparing data". Everytime the system crashes, a 0-byte-
long file appears under the name EIYBSKJTNX (Type/Creator
show up as garbage characters with ResEdit..)
I tried different combinations of the system/LW software: no
cure. The weird thing is that when I try to print from a
MacPlus, everything is ok, but when I try the same on our SE,
problems show up..
We are running system 6.0, Finer 6.1, LW/LW Prep 5.2 on a Mac
SE (1 MB RAM), with a 20 MB hard disk..
any clues??
All suggestions are appreciated..
Mohamad Eljazzar
UT Knoxville
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 88 12:31 EDT
From: <ELJAZZAR%UTKVX3.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Problem printing, a second posting..
We are trying to print a MacDraw (1.9.5) document that we've had for a long
time now. Here is the problem:
- once the print dialog shows "starting job", a system error (ID=02) occurs.
- when printing from a Mac Plus or II, everything is fine too (with both
background printing on and off)
- when trying to print the same file on a Mac SE (with HD 20), the system
error occurs again. However, when background printing is enabled,
everything is fine again!!
On the SE, the problem persisted even after I re-initialized the hard disk and
re-installed the system and MacDraw (only).
I am using the following:
Mac SE with 1 MB RAM and 20 MB HD
System 6.02
Finder 6.1
LaserWriter 5.2
MacDraw 1.9.5
Anyone with a clue??
Thank you.
Mohamad El Jazzar
UT Computing Center
Knoxville, TN
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Date: Sun 30 Oct 1988 18:28 CDT
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Laserwriter Driver Bugs?
Hi all.......
Recently at the lab that I take care of we upgraded to the laserwriter drivers
version 5.0 (yep, the prep and the lw driver are the same version....) and now
we are getting a tremendous amount of Postscript errors that often bomb the
macs. Things like -VM-ERROR- and -NO STRING VAL-....mostly these problems
have been occuring with MacDraw, but they occasionally occur with Microsoft
Works. Any suggestions? I'm almost ready to drop back down to ver. 4.0 if
I have to....
HELP.....:->
Bye for now but not for long
Greeny
Bitnet: miss026@ecncdc
Internet: miss026%ecncdc.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
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