Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Lance Nakata & Jon Pugh) (12/04/88)
Info-Mac Digest Sat, 3 Dec 88 Volume 6 : Issue 104 Today's Topics: 62 meg Hard drive < $600 (long) A/UX and the serial port Camera Output for Mac?? Cover page default in LaserWriter driver Ethernet GREAT DISK LABELS Hard Disks (2 msgs) Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD? Linotronic printer Mac-VAX e-mail MacApp object needed nVir Info Pagemaker 3.0 in a 1 Meg SE? Word 3.1 Pagination Goes Crazy The Info-Mac archives are available (via anonymous FTP) in the <INFO-MAC> directory at SUMEX-2060.Stanford.Edu. Please send articles and binaries to Info-Mac@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu. Send administrative mail to Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 22:30 AST From: Stan Armstrong <ARMSTRONG%STMARYS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: 62 meg Hard drive < $600 (long) Here is a recipe for a 62.3 meg Mac SCSI hard disk costing less than $600. I have built this drive, and I'm very happy with it. It is easy to assemble and performs as advertised. The inspiration for the project was the series of two articles "Macintos SCSI Drive Secrets Revealed" in the Sept.-Oct. Computer Shoppers. Those articles detail many other options, but since many people will no longer be able to get the magazines, and since not all the information one needs was included in them, here is one configuration that will work. Ingredients: Seagate ST277N SCSI HD $450 Tulin Apple Hive $119 Mac to SCSI cable $ 10 Power cord $ 4 Apple HD SC Installer free ____ Total $583 Because I am in Canada, shipping charges are different, and I can't provide that information for U.S. customers. Procedure: You may order the above items from the sources listed below. The Apple Hive is a complete under-the-Mac sized box with 30 watt power supply, decently quiet fan (quieter than the drive), internal cables, 2 SCSI connectors, a filtered AC connector, an external SCSI address switch, two front panel LED's (for power on and drive selected), and a front panel power switch. The box is *sturdy* and nicely finished. Unpack the ST277N, open the Apple Hive box with a phillips screwdriver, mount the drive in the box with screws provided (small slot head), and attach the internal cables as indicated by the instructions. If you want to use the drive select LED, you will have to solder two wires to the HD board where on-board LED is (I removed that LED first). If you are not comfortable doing that, skip that step and do without the activity light. The drive makes enough of a sound changing tracks so that you can usually tell if it is active. Now close up the box, connect it to the Mac with the SCSI cable you ordered, and to 120 AC with the power cord. Turn it on, and you are ready to format it an install the driver. The Apple HD SC Installer is a part of Apple's system software release 6.02. You will need to modify it slightly with Resedit to get it to recognized the ST277N. Using Resedit, open the Installer and open CODE resource "%A5init." Search for and replace "ST250N" with "ST277N." Close the file, exit Resedit, and run the installer. When you have finished, the Finder should mount your hard disk. If it does not, you may need to turn the drive and Mac on and off a couple of times. You might even have to repeat the formatting. (If someone can explain why this is necessary, I would appreciate it. I had a different driver on the drive to begin with, which may have caused the hitch, but I don't know why.) Once the drive is mounted, open the installer again, select "Partition," remove the existing 40 meg partition, and install a maximum sized Macintosh volume partion. Exit. You now have a 62.3 meg Macitosh SCSI drive for about $600. For the curious, this is a moderate speed drive. Its rated and measured average access time is 40 ms. It is faster than both the FX-20 and the Photon 30 we have at work. It is faster than the same drive formatted with SF&I software. I used SCSI Evaluator for the comparisons. The drive's average read time is about 1800 Kbits/sec and its average write time is about 1200 Kbits/sec over a good range of block transfers using a MacPlus. I am very happy with all the sources I used for this equipment, but you may find others more convenient. I includes these only so that you will not have to do all the digging I did to find *somebody* to supply each item. The relevant sources are as follows: Seagate ST277N SCSI hard drive from: Hard Drives International 1208 E. Broadway Rd. #110 Tempe, AZ 85282 (800) 234-DISK (602) 784-1038 [includes 1 year guarantee] [tech support available free for cost of your phone call (602-967-3133)] Apple Hive box from: Tulin Corporation 2392 Qume Drive San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 942-9025 [includes 6 month guarantee] MacPlus to SCSI cable & power cord from: Altex Electronics, Inc. 10731 Gulfdale San Antonio, TX 78216 (800) 531-5369 Apple HD SC Installer Your local Apple dealer One more resource gives me confidence in the project. Seagate has a free tech support number (800-468-34720. Their people bent over backwards to help me sort out some software problems I was having earlier in the project. Thanks to Ephraim Vishniac and Jussi-Pekka Mantere who got me over the software hurdles. Stan Armstrong. Religious Studies Dept Saint Mary's University Halifax, N.S.,CANADA, B3H 3C3 (902)420-5866 USENET: att!clyde!watmath!water!dalcs!armstrng BITNET:ARMSTRONG@STMARYS.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: 26 Nov 88 21:27:23 GMT From: gt-eedsp!lois@gatech.edu (Lois Hertz ) Subject: A/UX and the serial port I'm sure that this is a simple question but we are quite perplexed. We have a Mac2 running A/UX which absolutely refuses to talk to our LaserWriter IINT. The LaserWriter will talk to our IBM PCXT so it seems to be ok. We know that it can't use AppleTalk and that it needs to use the serail port. We assume that we have to set xon/xoff on the serial port on the mac side but an stty ixon is ignored. Does anyone have any idea what we are doing wrong? We would appreciate any help anyone has. Thanks, Lois Hertz ------------------------------ Date: 23 Nov 88 14:27:00 MST From: darieb@sandia-2.arpa Subject: Camera Output for Mac?? Does anybody know of a camera output device which meets the following specifications: 1. (obviously) can be driven by a Mac (of any flavor) 2. Can produce full color 8" x 10" format pictures with 4000 lines (something like 500 lines per inch resolution) 3. Can actually be seen and touched (i.e. is not VaporWare) I understand Matrix & Genigraphics have devices which meet 2 but not 1. There are 35 mm devices which otherwise qualify, but the users here need direct 8x10 format for Viewgraphs. Finally, What software packages are available which can talk to this type of output device (even if the device doesn't quite meet all of the specs)????? I'll be happy to summarize to the net if I receive any replies. Declan A. Rieb INTERnet:DARieb@Sandia-2.ARPA Org 2614 (Computer Consulting) DARieb@Sandia.GOV Sandia National Laboratories dxxr@LANL.GOV Albuquerque, NM 87185-5800 Bell: (505) 844-6338 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 13:09:21 -0500 From: Joel B Levin <levin@oakland.bbn.com> Subject: Cover page default in LaserWriter driver We have a group of Macs scattered around the floor connected to a LaserWriter. Often it is a problem separating one user's document >From another, unless the users remembered to click a "cover page" button in the LW driver dialog. Unfortunately, this setting defaults to "Cover Page: No" and is not remembered (it is hard wired in the driver), so if a user forgets to click a different button, her printout may be inadvertantly taken away with the next user's printout. I want to fix this by changing the default button to "Cover Page: Last Page" so it will take an overt act by the user to cause a cover page NOT to be printed. So I did. Here is a patch to the LaserWriter driver which will cause the dialog to come up with the "Last Page" button set. It applies equally well to LaserWriter driver versions 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2. It is not in the same location of the file in each version and is probably not in the same position of the resource; but hex search will find it correctly. Using your favorite file editor (I used Fedit Plus, but Mac Zap Tools, Symantec Tools, MacSnoopy, etc. should work, as should ResEdit): Change 377C 0010 0004 47EC to 377C 0012 0004 47EC ^^ Fedit Plus will show this patch beginning at an odd byte address; that's OK. In ResEdit, this will be found in PDEF 4 (remember to delete the old byte, then type the new; ResEdit does not overwrite). I suggest making your backup copy of the LW driver and then editing your actual one (reverse of normal procedure). If you edit the copy and then put the copy in place, you may have to reboot (I maybe had a problem doing this once). No guarantees. Your mileage may vary. Using 11 instead of 12 will set the default button to "First Page", but I think that's pretty useless. /JBL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 14:54:43 GMT From: Dr R M Damerell (RHBNC) <damerell@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk> Subject: Ethernet Our site has many machines from various makers hung off one E-net (via repeaters). Sometimes the net itself crashes (fortunately, not often) & we dont know how to trace the cause. Please does anybody know of a reasonably cheap piece of diagnostic software? We have MAC SE's with the Kinetics Etherports and I'd prefer to have diagnostic S-ware for these because they are physically more portable than (say) SUNS. Please could you kindly reply directly, I am not on this list. thanks, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 15:14 CST From: <RISTAU%ACUVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: GREAT DISK LABELS With "EFFICIENCY" in mind, others may bennifit from a really keen product I've recently discovered: "Erase-A-Label". Its an erasable but PERMANENT disk label. The kit comes with pen, erasing fluid & pads (for deleting ALL previous notation), a nifty eraser-pen (for revising a single line, letter or word) and either 100 or 200 of the super-duper labels. The labels are cleanly designed with two types to choose from. The kit also includes a couple of sheets of fat dots for those who require a color-coding system. Seems really well thought-out and has certainly helped us eliminate part of the the labeling headache. The manufacturer is: Cates & Co., PO Box 2761a, Abilene, Texas, 79604, Ph. 800-541-4351 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 23:29:06 EST From: Alan Stein <STEIN%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Hard Disks I'm looking for a hard disk to connect to a Mac Plus. I presently have an Apple HD connected to one Mac, a CMS to another and find that I need another HD for the third Mac connected to a network. My basic philosophy is that there doesn't seem to be too much difference between hard disks and I should buy the cheapest I can find, but would like to know if there are any to stay away from. I am considering the following drives, listed with prices. Apple Crate 20 Meg $549 CMS Mac Stack 20 $509 30 $589 Everex 20kD $499 Jasmine Direct Drive 20 $549 EMAC 20D $479 Relax 20 Meg $488 UniMac 30Meg (Seagate) $519 Photon 20 $499 Major Mac 30 Meg (Seagate) $549 Alan H. Stein Department of Mathematics The University of Connecticut at Waterbury Internet: stein%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu BITNET: STEIN@UCONNVM UUCP: {rutgers psuvax1 ucbvax & in Europe mcvax} !UCONNVM.BITNET!STEIN Compu$erve: 71545,1500 Genie: ah.stein ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 9:41:02 EST From: tom coradeschi <tcora@ardec.arpa> Subject: Hard Disks A co-worker is looking to buy a SCSI hard disk for his mac+, and, of course, wants to know which one to buy! I'm looking for recommendations for 20Meg, externals. Access time not a real concern (he doesn't know what it is). Please email to me. tom c "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" ARPA: tcora@ardec-ac4.arpa UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!ardec-ac4.arpa!tcora ------------------------------ Date: 22 November 88 16:23-PST From: TEREBESS%UVVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD? Date: 22 November 1988, 16:16:13 PST From: Paul Romaniuk (604) 721-7088 TEREBESS at UVVM To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX.STANFORD.EDU Subject: Incompatibility of System 6.0.2 and Radius FPD? I was just updating all of the various computers in our department with the new System 6.0.2 release, and everything was going just fine until I tried to do the two computers in our front office. Any attempt to boot >From the System Tools disk resulted in a System Bomb of ID=10. These two computers are Mac IIs with internal 40 meg drives, and Radius Full Page Displays. The bomb surprised me because I had successfully updated two other Mac IIs with Apple monitors. Further investigation showed that simply swapping the System file from 6.0 to 6.0.2 on the Mac II hard drive immediately reproduced the problem. Throwing out the two Radius FPD inits had no effect. Since everything but the monitors and graphics boards are the same between the Mac II systems that could be updated, and those that couldn't be, I've concluded that there is a compatibility problem with the Radius FPD (at least the Mac II version) and System 6.0.2. Has anyone had similar problems? Are Radius or Apple aware of this problem? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 11:52:25 EST From: Giovanni Aliberti <vanni@dspvax.mit.edu> Subject: Linotronic printer Does anyone have a Linotronic printer ?? If so, could you share your experience with us. A phone number of a local vendor would also help. Please reply directly to vanni@dspvax.mit.edu thanks in advance !! -vanni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 10:53:27 -0500 From: jmccombi@vax.bbn.com Subject: Mac-VAX e-mail I am putting together a site with an electronic mail host (a VAX running VMS). The users all have Macintoshes on their desks and can connect to the VAX using NCSA Telnet and an Appletalk/Kinetics box/Ethernet connection. I have heard mumblings about DEC and Apple working together on a "Mac e-mail" product that presents a Mac-like interface to the user while s/he reads e-mail on the VAX. If you know anything about this, or something like it (doesn't have to be from DEC...) please send me e-mail directly. I will summarize to the list if there is enough interest. Jon McCombie BBN Systems and Technologies Cambridge, MA Internet: jmccombie@bbn.com USEnet: {ihpn4, decwrl}!bbn!jmccombi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 18:24 CST From: Mark Roseman <ROSEMAN@UOFMCC> Subject: MacApp object needed I've got a program right now which is using the TEView object to handle some text in one window. Unfortunately, the output to this window (a program listing) can sometimes grow longer than the 32K maximum length of a TextEdit record legislated by the ToolBox. At present what I'm doing is just having the top part of the text get chopped off as more output is added, but thats obviously not an adequate solution. What I would like is to find a new object which I could use to replace the TEView but would handle text chunks larger than 32K in length. I don't need all the features of TextEdit here... in fact, the user is not even allowed to edit the text. The program is the only thing that does the writing to the window. So we need more of an "output" object than anything else. However, the user should be able to print out the contents of the view, save it in a file, and use cut and copy (but not paste) with the view. If anyone has written something along these lines, or knows where an object of this sort can be found, it would be appreciated. If not, I'll write it myself, as it doesn't seem terribly complicated. By the way, I'm still using MacApp 1.1 on this project. Please respond directly to me, as I'm not subscribed to the list. Thanks in advance. Mark ------------------------------ Date: 21 Nov 88 14:47:46 GMT From: borton@uva.UUCP (Chris Borton) Subject: nVir Info >..the **** nVIR virus shows up! This is getting REAL irritating! Of course, >Virus Rx, Apple's handy-dandy virus checking program totally misses the nVIR >virus (NOTE THIS EVERYONE!) We found the virus using Interferon v. 3.0, now >v. 3.1. Unfortunately, we have no good way to kill the virus dead, other >then a lot of finiking with ResEdit (not clean, but effective). Interferon >simply deletes the file...clean, effective, but bad for lab PR when you start >wiping out peoples applications. And, we weren't looking for the nVIR when >we were spot checking, so now we have to start the whole quarentine process >over from the beginning, with Interferon instead of KillScores. You can save yourself a lot of time and trouble by vaccinating everything with "Vaccination", the program written by Mike Scanlin and published in MacTutor to reverse the effects of nVIR. The "KillVirus" INIT by Matthias Urlichs provides full protection against nVIR by stomping on it when discovered and installing the preventative nVIR 10 resource. Both of these and all other up-to-date virus tools are available via ftp from rascal.ics.utexas.edu in ftp/Mac/virus (or something close to that). Claimer: I helped Mike write Vaccination and was 'in' on the frantic dissection. -cbb -- Chris Borton borton%uva@mcvax.{nl,bitnet,uucp} Rotary Scholar, University of Amsterdam CS Now Palestine is a virtual country. But what gets swapped out on page-fault? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21-NOV-1988 17:19 +0100 From: "3077::PBAUMANN" <U0055%DGOGWDG5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Pagemaker 3.0 in a 1 Meg SE? Running PageMaker 3.0 on a 1 Meg SE is possible. I've been running it on a 1 Meg Plus and it didn't get faster after upgrading to two Meg. Peter Baumann, U0055@dgogwdg5 MPI fuer Stroemungsforschung, Goettingen, W-Germany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 16:32 N From: <RCST9%HEITHE5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Ernst '42' Mulder) Subject: Word 3.1 Pagination Goes Crazy On Word 3.01 Using Word 3.01 I encountered a lot of problems. Most of them were rather easy (sort of) to undo, after I found out what caused them. 1: One day the repagination didn't work as it should. At some points in the Document I inserted a page break. At some places before the start of a new Chapter. When I used the Previeuwer the pages were broken at the right places. That is where I inserted the pagebreak. However, when I used the Table of Contents generator the page numbers were all WRONG!! The problem, I found out, was Hidden Text. At the start of a new Chapter the first characters are hidden (When you use .c. .c2. etc to tell the Table of Contents generator what it wants to know), and when I inserted the page break the pagebreak itself got invisible too. The Previeuwer didn't have problems with this, but the Table of Contents generator apparently has. I didn't try what would happen when printing the document. So: MORAL: Don't make pagebreaks, sectionbreaks HIDDEN. 2: Then One Day, some time and some essays later, I encountered another problem. I had a complex page, with a lot of formulae. When repaginating something weird happened. Say the complex page was page 12. It would repaginate from the first page to page 12. Then it would start again at page 1, and repaginate till the end of the Document. The most funny thing was when creating a Table of Contents. The Chapters from the first page till page 12 would be TWICE in the Table of Contents!!! Again I didn't try what would happen when printed. The problem stayed even after Save As... and disappeared after repaginating with the Option key pressed. I don't know why I tried that, and repaginating took a lot of time, but it worked and the problem didn't came back. Any clues???? MORAL: When desperate repaginate with the Option key pressed! 3: At out university some people run a Dutch System and some people an English System. I usually type my essays and reports on English Systems. And I use Word's formuler a lot. For instance \f(1,3) (\ means Command- Option-Backslash) gives the appropriate fraction. When printing the Document on a Dutch System some of the formulae were printed not in their final form but stayed in the form typed in. It took me about a day to find out what caused this. Word uses the 'itl ' resources to get some info on the system you work with. In the Dutch number-system the 'decimal-point-separator' is a ',', not a '.'. "So..." Word apparently things, "So this user is a Dutch person. Let's make life convenient for him! If he wants to have a formula with numbers he would probably use the comma a lot, so let's separate the expressions with a more convenient character!!" And indeed, all worked well when I changed \f(1,3) into \f(1;3). To eliminate this problem for ever I copied my System's international Resources into Word, and now it works well on all Systems. (Isn't Word intelligent?) 4: I used to have some problems with the style-sheets in Word, but those all dissappeared when switching from a 512K Mac to a 2Meg Mac. Conclusion: Word isn't a Word Processor for people who want an easy Word Processor that always does what the user wants. I would recommend MacWrite or WriteNow to such people. I used to be one of this kind of people. I changed. (Don't we all at times?) Now I would say Word is a Word Processor for people who want a lot of neat things. People who know how to work around the inconveniences (bugs some call them) of this Word Processor and don't give up after yet another serious drawback... (hmpf!) Anyway, since I use Word to write my essays and reports it takes me only two evenings to write something that takes others two weeks. That is when Word cooperates. And I usually get positive comments on them too. I do hope however that Word 4.0 is a lot better, and I hope our University will purchase Word 4.0 as soon as it gets out. :) Ernst. > ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************