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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 25 Jan 89 Volume 7 : Issue 16
Today's Topics:
AppleII to Mac file transfer
Font Comments (in Info-Mac Digest V7 #15)
Info-Mac Digest V7 #4
MacsBug Problems
Microtech Nova internal 40 Meg for Mac II
Moire bombs with some Prg's?
Multiple button mice?
Pascal
Printing PostScript files
Rebuilding desktop file.
The PostScript (read: PostFIX).
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 11:48 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: AppleII to Mac file transfer
Stan Armstrong wonders:
>I have several disks full of library data written in
>Quickfile on the Apple IIe. My Quickfile program disk
>has been trashed. How can I transfer that data to the
>Mac, for use in Filemaker or similar database program?
>There is no communications card in the Apple IIe.
If you can get your Apple II files onto 3.5 inch ProDOS diskettes,
by using the ProDOS utilities and an Apple with both 3.5 and 5.25" drives, then
the Mac can read them using Apple File Exchange (which comes with the Mac
system software). Of course this is assuming that QuickFile saved the data
in some form that you can import into another DataBase program.
Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist
Computer Center Colgate University
BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
APPLELINK U0523
CompuServe 74010,1353
Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 09:35:38 PST
From: dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt)
Subject: Font Comments (in Info-Mac Digest V7 #15)
Waldemar Horwat writes:
> 1. Many of the fonts that have been uploaded to the Info-Mac archives
> have their resource forks corrupted in some way. Palatino is
> especially bad in this respect (many of the font resource names point
> to the same string, which is sure to cause Resource Manager trouble).
> Reading the font files with Font/DA Mover 3.8 seems to work, but
> writing to them causes a system crash.
That's a long-standing problem with the font-files that Adobe
distributes. The font resources were not installed by the Mac's
resource manager. Adobe built the resource-forks in these files on a
Sun (?) system, using their own software, and then downloaded the files
to a Mac. Alas, Adobe's understanding of the resource-map format was
inadequate. The net result is that the resource forks can be read, but
any attempt to update the resource forks will corrupt the files or
crash the Mac.
The "Font Harmonly" utility (part of the Suitcase II product) can correct
the incorrect resource-maps in-place, without it being necessary to copy
the fonts. Copying the fonts via Font/DA Mover may not always work,
according to info in the Suitcase II manual; copying with ResEdit is
probably a surer way to make updatable copies of the Adobe font files.
Finder copying is _not_ adequate!
> 2. It would be nice if the italic, bold, and bold-italic versions of
> screen fonts did not clutter up the font menus. This is easy to
> arrange. Simply use ResEdit to insert periods in front of the names of
> the italic, bold, and bold-italic FOND resources and at the same time
> delete all of the zero-length, named FONT resources. (If for some
> reason you need these zero-length FONT resources, copy all the fonts
> into a new file using Font/DA Mover 3.8. It will put them back in.)
>
> This will remove the styled fonts from the font menu, but they will
> still be accessible by selecting the base font and choosing bold and/or
> italic in whatever word processor you are using. (Make sure you keep a
> backup of your font file before doing this. This procedure will not
> work on the old 64K ROM Macs.)
This can also be done with Font Harmony, with the tool-of-similar-purpose
provided with Font/DA Juggler+, or with the free N-Font utility from
Olduvai (posted to Info-Mac some time ago, I believe).
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Date: 25 Jan 89 19:00:10 GMT
From: news <news@shuldig.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #4
you do not run veru often into problems as it is in the PC,
but when you run into one, you are stuck with it.
We have 9 old macs that were upgraded to macplus, but the
upgrade did not include keyboard replacement, so we still
have the old (no key pad) keyboard.
From: yogi@humus.huji.ac.il (Yossi Gil)
Path: humus!yogi
The problem is that the keyboard works strange, the last
row of keys is shifted, the enter key is gone, ans the space
is something else.
I heard that this
keyboard is called in the mac slang European Keyboard, and that
a program called localizer from apple could convert the system
files to work with this keyboard. I tryed the program
and it worked fine with old system version, but failed on newer
ones. I do not need to work with MultiFinder but I would like to work
with the latest version prior to it, since this version is
the only one that supports hebrew without too many system crashes.
Strangely enough, early (and brain damaged) of the hebrew support
system, could convert from one type of keyboard to another without
booting the system.
The local dealer claim that this problem is unsolvable, and that
we are doomed to upgarde the keyboards too (150$ each). I suspect
that they have good reasons for not trying to solve the
problem (about 9*150 of them). I am sure that this is a
software only problem since the localizer and the old hebrew system
could work with the keyboard with no problems.
BTW- there is a file called keylayout in the system folder, could this
be the answer?
I would appreciate any direct mail answer, but I will watch for answers
in this news group and others
thanks
yogi (the bare)
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Date: 25 Jan 89 09:59:00 MST
From: "2614 Rieb, Declan A." <darieb@sandia.gov>
Subject: MacsBug Problems
Problem: When I enter MacsBug (via programmer's switch or appropriate trap)
my Mac freezes...no cursor motion, no activity, nothing. All that's left is to
re-boot. This happens when using the real, boot-time loaded MacsBug, not the
ROM-resident version; remove or rename the MacsBug file, and the ROM version
works OK.
Environment: Mac II, 8 MB SIMMS, no hard disk
RasterOps 104 color board driving NEC Multisync XL
Dual Bering 20MB "Bernoulli-type" drives
EtherPort II
System 6.0.2, Finder 6.1
MacsBug version 5.4
Various INITs & CDEVs: Vaccine, SFScrollInit, HeirDA, RasterOps 1.0...
Note...When I removed the RasterOps board and put in an Apple color video board, Macs-
Bug worked fine. RasterOps states that it's Apple's problem in MacsBug. Apple????
Is there any hope? Help, please!
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 12:09:04 EST
From: David Ascher <ST501649%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Microtech Nova internal 40 Meg for Mac II
I'm looking for any information not included in the advertising for the
Microtech Nova Internal 40 Meg hard drive for the Mac II.
Here are the specs:
- Quantum drive
- 19 ms average access time, can be lowered to 12 by Quantum's Discache,
- 40 Megs,
- 1:1 interleave
- 5 YEAR WARRANTY with tech. support on business hours (approx.),
- $599 through Microtech.
What's the glitch? Any info? Any recommendations? Decommendations?
Sorry if this has been asked before: I haven't read the net in a couple
of months...
David Ascher
E-mail: ST501649@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (ARPANET)
SnailMail: P.O. Box 3209, Brown University, Providence RI 02912
NewEnglandTelNet: (401) 863-6603
# include disclaimer.h;
Flames, mail, and love letters gladly accepted.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 16:42:39 MEZ
From: MAMI%DHVRRZN1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Moire bombs with some Prg's?
Date: 25 January 1989, 16:24:23 MEZ
From: Michael Hartje +49-511-762-3745 MAMI at DHVRRZN1
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Hello,
I have got Moire 2.21 out of the archives from MACSERVE and it seems
to work on MAC SE with most programs.
But with programs like KERMIT 09/40 as well as with Word 3.02 it bombs
regulary! Every time, after screen darkens during transfer (Kermit) or
with a resting "start printing dialog" (Word) and when I moved the
mouse, the screen comes up again and a system Bomb ID=25 occurs!
May be, some other programs have the same error. It seems that there
is an error on the "activate screen event" of one of the programs.??
This does not happen with the "old AutoBlack" !
Is there anybody out there who knows of a correct version of Moire?
Was it my mistake?
Thanks!
Michael Hartje, Schering-Institute, Institute for high voltage
engeneering and high voltage plants, University of Hannover, W.-Germany
MAMI @ DHVRRZN1.BITNET
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Date: 25 Jan 89 16:30 +0100
From: Carl Petter Swensson <cepe%si.uninett%norunix.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Multiple button mice?
I am doing object-oriented programming on a Mac using Smalltalk. Smalltalk
uses a three button mouse, which is simulated on the Mac by using option-
and command-mouseclick.
My question is does anybody know of any two or three button mouse for the Mac?
Any pointer to where I might get one is appreciated.
Carl Petter Swensson
Object-oriented philosopher
cepe%si.uninett@norunix.bitnet
mcvax!ndosl!sinanna!cepe
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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 89 23:43 CST
From: <SRS9925@TNTECH>
Subject: Pascal
Reply to Theodore A Morris's request for information on pascal.
I use Think tech.'s Lightspeed pascal 2.0 and i have been very pleased
with it. It includes a symb. debuger and supports mpw-files, and modulized
code. I have used TML, Turbo, and Lightspeed, and I recomend Lightspeed over
the rest. A nice added feature is that it is relatively low priced: $65 from
most mail order outfits. Hope I have been of assistance.
-Stephen Shaw
SRS9925@TnTech
-Remember, No matter where you go.... There you are.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 14:42 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Printing PostScript files
The question was: How do I print postScript files ( I actually want to do
this from a PC).
I will attempt to answer this here, because most of my answer will apply
to PC and Mac (or even VAX) users.
Few (if any?) applications produce "native" PostScript output which any
PostScript printer could print. Most make use of extensions to the language
which are defined in a user dictionary which must be loaded before output
program is run. Whereas Mac applications (generally) use a standard user
dictionary (Laser Prep) ms-dos applications each have their own (not surprising,
is it?). This is because ms-dos does not have a sophisticated print manager
like the Mac to mediate between the application and the printer.
At any rate. To get a PostScript output file (program) to properly print
(run) on a PostScript printer you must first make sure the user dictionary
file is properly loaded into the printer's memory. This can simply be done
by appending the PostScript output file to the dictionary file, and sending
the whole thing to the printer. Alternatively, the dict file can be sent
to the printer once, and made resident. Then each individual output file
can be sent to the printer by itself. Be forewarned _most ms-dos application
dict file are poorly written (though improving) and need some modification
to really work_.
BUUUUT, you ask, How do I send the file to the LaserWriter?
1) attach the pc to the printer via a serial connection and copy the file
to the comx: port (e.g. copy output.ps com1:)
2) install an appletalk card in the pc and use the print utility that comes
with the card to send the file to the laserWriter. If you have an AppleTalk
PC card from Apple the command would be "lwprint output.ps"
I hope this clears up some of the confusion.
Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist
Computer Center Colgate University
BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
APPLELINK U0523
CompuServe 74010,1353
Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 11:54 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Rebuilding desktop file.
Dave Gillen writes:
>>I now have a DESKTOP file of over 3000K long. Do I have to re-copy
>>everything back onto my drive, or is there a way to repair
>>the desktop file so it is back to normal (about 130K).
>>Thanks in advance
To which Roberts Johnston, Jr. replied:
> Just before the Finder mounts your Hard Disk volume, hold down the
>Command-Option and Shift keys. You will be asked if you want to rebuild
>your desktop file.
The Shift key is not necessary, just command-option while the disk is being
mounted.
Bear in mind that you will lose the comments you might have typed into the
"Notes" area of the Get Info window for each file, and that icons belonging
to applications which are no longer on the disk will also be lost. Both
sound like reasonable tradeoffs for your situation! to me.
Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist
Computer Center Colgate University
BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
APPLELINK U0523
CompuServe 74010,1353
Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 21:49:59 EET
From: Jouni Santara <LK-JOUNI%FINTUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: The PostScript (read: PostFIX).
Hi Again|
First, I am thanking Gred Brail - he correctly pointed an
obvious mistake of my thumb rules to create PostScript files:
press COMMAND-F or COMMAND-K until a small window appears.
Dear Ed De Moel, you are perfectly right that there should
NOT be these kind of things in user-friendly Macintosh. My
best guess why Apple has taken this kind of approach when
implementing these COMMAND-X sequences is simple: they are
application independent feature of your system. This means,
that you can switch from desktop publishing packet A to B
without having to worry about losing (for example an ability
to generate PostScript file) these system kernel functions.
There IS the Macintosh Quick Reference Card to describe all
of these cryptical COMMAND-A..Z pressing combinations of
keyboard, except COMMAND-F and COMMAND-K (At least, not in
my version of paper). I can send the list for you, if you
really want to get it. Another solution could be a modified
printer driver (a piece of code to control your printer),
which is able to form only PostScipt files as a default
setting. Unfortunately, I have not heard about such...
For you Paul Sutton, there is the application/DA called
AddlPrep, which you still have to use if wanting to convert
the PostScript files of Mac to the PS-type PostScript files
of PC. Yes, it is an additional step for your output generating
process and you definetely would not like to use it without
heavy reasons. These could be: not AppleTalk installed (or
at least no LaserWriter inside the LAN) and there happens to
be PCs with LaserWriters near you somewhere (like in my case).
Again as before, a modified printer driver could do this trick
nicely and again (as you guess it) I have not found it yet.
When the prices of LaserWriters are going down, these kind
of tricks are becoming unnecessary. I just hope they are doing
it a little bit faster. Did you hear me Apple?
Jouni Santara
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