[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V7 #18

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (01/28/89)

Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 27 Jan 89       Volume 7 : Issue  18 

Today's Topics:
     (Short) Preliminary conference announcement  -  Please post
                     AppleII to Mac file transfer
                      Bitmap area calc programs?
                           IM SetDItem bug?
                               INQUIRY
                           Leprechaun-Demo
                           Localtalk Specs.
                       Macs, Suns on a network
                      MAC to HP DESKJET DRIVERS?
                          Mouse Scaling CDEV
                           MPW Pascal help
               Postscript dumps and Rebuilding Desktop
                      Problems with Adobe fonts
                        Problems with SYMANTEC
                       Thesaurus Enhancements?
                            Transfer paper
                         VersaTerm Pro Source

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Date: 27 Jan 89 14:57:00 EST
From: "LFA" <lfa@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov>
Subject: (Short) Preliminary conference announcement  -  Please post

		P R E L I M I N A R Y      A N N O U N C E M E N T
The Energy Division of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the United States 
Census Bureau have pledged support for a conference or workshop on ADVANCED
COMPUTING FOR THE SOCIAL SCIENCES.  The conference is tentatively scheduled
for October in either the Washington, D.C. area or Williamsburg, Va.  The
formal call for papers will be issued next month.  The most suitable papers
would relate to Economics, Planning, Sociology, Geography and urban studies, 
transportation studies, policy analysis, or government activities.  Topic
areas include supercomputing, parallel processing, satellite imagery, expert
systems, natural language processing, databases and information retrieval,
computer networks, and innovative microcomputer applications
			
For more information and a preliminary attendance form (electronic/paper), 
please contact		Lloyd F. ARROWOOD
			Oak Ridge National Laboratory
			P. O. Box 2008
			Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA  37831-6207
Phone:  (615)-574-8700   Email: LFA @ ORNLSTC.BITNET or LFA @ STC10.CTD.ORNL.GOV

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 08:24:14 MST
From: dbirnbau@nmsu.edu
Subject: AppleII to Mac file transfer

The Apple File Exchange DOES allow you to do ProDOS-Mac OS
conversions, both through AppleWorks - Microsoft Works files and
regular text to text conversions (at least the one I have does....)

David Birnbaum.

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|    the suprise should be that the dang thing works at all!"             |
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 09:57 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Bitmap area calc programs?

Hello,

We're looking for a way to calculate the area of enclosed regions of a scanned
bitmap.  I don't think thissoftware would be too hard to write but rather
than reinvent the wheel I thought I'd see if it had been done already.

We are going to scan images which we then want to process to find the area
of selected shapes.

Thanks,

Peter Jorgensen       Microcomputer Specialist
Computer Center       Colgate University
BITNET                PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
APPLELINK             U0523
CompuServe            74010,1353
Phone                 (315) 824-1000 ext 742

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Date: Friday, 27 Jan 89 13:45:53 EST
From: barnes@a.psy.cmu.edu (Bill Barnes)
Subject: IM SetDItem bug?

I seem to have stumbled across a minor misprint in IM 1, but common sense
and a healthy dose of inferiority tells me that it's probably me.

I have a dialog (loaded from a resource) whose buttons I tend to retitle and,
consequently resize (before displaying).

IM 1 says (p.422),
	"Note: Do not use SetDItem ... to change or move a control"
and (p.421),
	"...to move a control or change its size, you would call
        MoveControl or SizeControl."

Fine.  Using MoveControl and SizeControl _does_ change the control accordingly,
but then ModalDialog (among others) does not recognize the new bounds of the
control.  Thus if 'x' denotes the area occupied by the old button, and 'y'
by the changed, and 'z' the common area, ModalDialog only senses mouseDowns
in the 'z' common area.
                yyyyyyyyyyyyy
	xxxxxxxxzzzzzyyyyyyyy
        xxxxxxxxzzzzzyyyyyyyy
        xxxxxxxxxxxxx

The solution is to use SetDItem to prescribe the new bounds after using
MoveControl and SizeControl.  This seems to contradict IM.  Am I doing
something wrong?

-Bill

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 14:58:57 EST
From: DARRYL WOOD <DWOOD@UDCVM>
Subject: INQUIRY

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
I AM IN DIRE NEED OF THE FOLLOWING:

         O    THE NAME OF ALL FILESERVERS THAT CAN TRANSFER MACINTOSH
              FILES TO A SYSTEM THAT IS ONLY CONNECTED TO THE OUTSIDE
              WORLD BY BITNET.

         O    A PRGRAM THAT RUNS ON THE MAC WHOS SOLE PURPOSE IS CON-
              STRCUTING FLOWCHARTS. PREFERABLE FREE OR SHARE WARE.
Thank Your very much for your time

Darryl Wood
Technical Liazon COSDET Center

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 02:22:43 PST
From: Mark Hastings <hastings%scam.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Leprechaun-Demo

This posting is to announce a demonstration version of a hot new game
called Leprechaun.

The 'Read Me' file reads as follows:
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          Read Me for Leprechaun Demo, a multi-level action game. 

      Push the pot of gold to the rainbow while avoiding the nasties!
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
This game supports Color QuickDraw (when available) or classic
QuickDraw.  Also uses extensive digitized sound effects. 

For on-line help, see the Help item under the Apple Menu. 

Commercial version will have over a hundred levels and a fully-functional
editor module (available March 1, 1989).  For more information, see the
About Box. 

Requires 1MB of RAM, System 6.0 or later.  MultiFinder aware.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/leprechaun-part1.hqx; 136K
             /info-mac/demo/leprechaun-part2.hqx; 150K
             /info-mac/demo/leprechaun-part3.hqx; 149K]

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 08:45:32 CST
From: Don Davis <AEDAVIS%UMSVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Localtalk Specs.

     Hi,

     I am preparing to do some work on a driver for a UNIX machine connecting
to a localtalk net. The problem I am having so far is aquiring some documentati
on the localtalk protocol itself. Any leads or advice would be gratly appreciat
ed.

     thanks,

DON DAVIS                      BITNET:    AEDAVIS AT UMSVM
APPLICATIONS ANALYST           INTERNET:  AEDAVIS AT VM.CC.OLEMISS.EDU
UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI
OCIS
UNIVERSITY, MS. 38677
(601) 232-7206

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 09:30:28 PST
From: doxsee@composite.stanford.edu
Subject: Macs, Suns on a network

I would like to include one Mac SE into a pre-existing ethernet network
between Suns and PCs.  The PCs are able to send postscript files over the
network (w/ PC/NFS) to the Sun which acts as a print spooler for an Apple 
LaserWriter IInx.  I would like to do the same with the Mac.  Since it's
likely that only one Mac will ever be hooked up to the network (Macs are 
many times more expensive than PC clones here in Belgium), I'm considering
connecting the Mac to the network with a SCSI Ethernet connector (the slot 
is filled with a PC drive card) instead of a with a bridge/gateway such as
Kinetics Fast Path or Gaterbox.  My question is this: with a Mac connected
to the network with a SCSI ethernet connector (such as Kinetics EtherSC), 
can I use Columbia AppleTalk Package (CAP) for spooled printing on the 
LaserWriter connected to the Sun?  Is this operation relatively simple
and "transparent" to the user?  Also, can the Sun be used as a AppleShare 
file server with this hardware and software configuration?  Also, is 
there an expert at Columbia whom I can contact directly?

Thanks for the help.

Tad Doxsee
Dept. of Metallurgy and Materials Engineering
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Belgium

doxsee@composite.stanford.edu (will be forwarded)
doxsee%kulmech@kulesat.uucp

** It is occasionally the curse of visionaries to see their visions fulfulled.
                                                -- author??

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Date: 27 Jan 1989 08:43-EST
From: MENDELSOHN@a.isi.edu
Subject: MAC to HP DESKJET DRIVERS?

Has anyone out there any experience with drivers for the
Mac-to-HP DeskJet connection?  The three choices I know of are
Orange Micro's Grappler LS, DataPak's Printer Interface III, and
Insight's MacPrint.  Any comments on handling of Mac and HP
fonts, graphics (OK, I know there is no PostScript, but how is
the 300 dpi QuickDraw, and is it integratable with text), and
lastly, of course, what are the relative speeds?  Any comments
are welcome.  If there is a lot of interest (there should be at
$700 for the DestJet!)  I can summarize.  Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 18:52:59 EST
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@ardec.arpa>
Subject: Mouse Scaling CDEV

Here is a CDEV I downloaded from Info-Center BBS (914) 565-6696. It allows
the same mouse scaling we were talking about using ResEdit to implement, last
week, or so. Appears to work well. Also appears to be PD.

tom c

                  Electromagnetic Armament Technology Branch
         US Army Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center
                       Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000
                          ARPA: tcora@pica.army.mil
                UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!tcora

[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/mouse-scaling.hqx; 10K]

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 12:22:40 GMT
From: CS undergrad <KoehlerKF@MSA.BRISTOL.AC.UK>
Subject: MPW Pascal help

I am very new to both the Mac and this list. My problem may be simple,
but it isn't for me. I want the output of a pascal program displayed
in windows: One for the text-output, one for the graphics. I already
realised that WRITELN always opens one more window where it places
the output. I didn't find here any books which deal with these things,
so I would like to get some information which books could help me
and / or an example program, which does similar things. The program
SAMPLE which comes with the MPW Pascal contains not enough information
for me to get started.
Please send any answers directly to me to avoid bothering the experts...
Thanks,
        Klaus Koehler
        University of Bristol
        School of Chemistry
        <KoehlerKF@msa.bristol.ac.uk>

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 15:18:31 PST
From: jhl%naif.span@vlsi.jpl.nasa.gov (Jay Lieske)
Subject: Postscript dumps and Rebuilding Desktop

In response to the questions asked regarding rebuilding the desktop
one sometimes has problems invoking it on disk bootup because of other
inits.  However, since the Command-Option key brings up the Rebuild
Desktop dialog at ANY time finder is entered, the easiest way I have
found to do it is to hold down the Command and Option keys while
selecting Quit from the menu of your favorite application.

As far as reliably getting the Postscript dumps to disk without
worrying about rapidly pressing cmdF or cmdK and seeing it run
off to your printer instead of the disk, try this:  When print dialog
comes up instead of clicking on the OK button, HOLD THE MOUSE DOWN without
releasing it.  Then at your leisure press the Command and F or K keys and
then FINALLY release the mouse.

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Date: 27 Jan 89 11:48 +0100
From: "Espen J. Vestre" <m_vestre_e%use.uio.uninett%norunix.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Problems with Adobe fonts

The posted Adobe screen fonts for Avant Garde, Helvetica Narrow and Palatino
contain an annoying error:  The names for the style fonts do not contain a
dot in its name (like e.g. ".B Times Bold").  This means that they will appear
in font menus.

The problem can be cured with ResEdit, you will have to change the names of
the style fonts of these three fonts _both_ in the FOND resources and (through
an "Open General") in the FONT resources.


Espen Vestre                       e-mail:
Dep. of Mathematics                m_vestre_e%use.uio.uninett@nac.no
Univ. of Oslo                      espen%ikaros@ifi.uio.no
P.O. Box 1053 Blindern
N-0316 OSLO 3, Norway

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 08:50 EST
From: "I am only an egg." <JOHNSON@nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu>
Subject: Problems with SYMANTEC

     Please forgive me if this has been discussed before.  I'm not a 
regular reader of this list.  

     I have a problem with SYMANTEC.  They bought up MAC ZAP which was 
working perfectly.  I received the "upgrade" to SUM.  The DISK CLINIC 
hasn't work yet in trying to recover a broken Mac disk.  I have had to 
use MAC ZAP every time.  

     Last July or August I called SYMANTEC.  I should say I spent a week 
trying to get them or at least a response from them.  I finally got some 
one who said that the version I had did have bugs that caused it to fail 
to recover broken disks.  My name and address were taken and I was told 
that a version which worked would be sent to me.  I'm still waiting.  
I'm also still using MAC ZAP because the DISK CLINIC still won't work.  
I'd like to get a DISK CLINIC that does more the ignore broken disks.

     Anybody else have this problem with SYMANTEC?  Anybody else have
this problem with the DISK CLINIC?  Has anybody been able to get a
positive response to a problem from SYMANTEC?  If so, how?  I've been 
trying to call them again but am having no luck at all.

     Please respond direct.  Thanks much.

Chris Johnson
Northeastern University
(617) 437-2335
Internet: johnson@nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu
BITNET:   johnson@nuhub

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Date: 27 Jan 89 15:11 EST
From: rrenfro%tofacsa@dtrc.arpa (Richard Renfro)
Subject: Thesaurus Enhancements?

We do a great deal of technical writing here.  One of the tools in use is the 
Word Finder thesaurus bundled with Microsoft Word.  It's a great product, but 
would be even more useful if there were some way to add definitions and/or 
links to the database.  My questions are:
   1) Is there a convenient way to add entries to Word Finder?
   2) If not, is there another commercial thesaurus with this feature?
   3) As a last resort, is there an alternate approach to this problem?
Thanks!


rrenfro@dtrc.arpa
301/227-3329
Code 1401
David Taylor Research Center

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 14:47:49 CST
From: Eddie Mikell <eddie@cc.msstate.edu>
Subject: Transfer paper

Sirs:

I need information for a possible source for heat-transfer paper.  I need this paper to transfer a MacVision image to say a T-shirt.  I've seen it used in booths in most Malls, but forgot to ask where they bought it.

Thanks

Eddie@cc.msstate.edu

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 09:05:55 PLT
From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: VersaTerm Pro Source

Many people will probably reply to the request for a source for VersaTerm
Pro:

Peripherals, Computers, and Supplies, Inc.
2457 Perkiomen avenue
Mt. Penn, PA 19606
(215) 779-0522

The author is Lonnie R. Abelbeck of Abelbeck Software.  I don't have his
address or phone.

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