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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 26 Jan 89 Volume 7 : Issue 17 Today's Topics: Apple IIe --> Mac AppleII to Mac file transfer Backups of AppleShare? C source examples of the new preferred AppleTalk interface? Default Button Selection & Mac->Overhead Interface (2 msgs) Expo Report GateKeeper exceptions II in a Mac Keystrokes and options Needed init to check serial ports. Palatino screeen font problem PostAAAAArrgggh! Rebuilding desktop file. Removable Drives.. Tek emulators for Mac's Your Info-Mac Moderators are Lance Nakata, Jon Pugh, and Bill Lipa. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 13:54:29 EST From: DBecque%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Apple IIe --> Mac To get your data from the 2e to your Mac you will need 4 things: a SuperSerial Card for your 2e, a null modem cable to go from you 2e to the Mac, 2 copies of Kermit ( one for the 2e and one for the Mac). Set the communications parametes equivalently on both machines and use Kermit to send your data from the 2e and receive your data on the Mac. I've created a null modem cable myself and done the transfer of ascii text files, so I know that it will work. Call your local computer store, or drop me a line to get the pinouts to create your own cable. Goodluck. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 7:13:25 MST From: Major John Buono <buono%asbf-imp.huachuca-emh1.army.mil@huachuca-emh1.army.mil> Subject: AppleII to Mac file transfer >Stan Armstrong wonders: >>I have several disks full of library data written in >>Quickfile on the Apple IIe. My Quickfile program disk >>has been trashed. How can I transfer that data to the >>Mac, for use in Filemaker or similar database program? >>There is no communications card in the Apple IIe. > >If you can get your Apple II files onto 3.5 inch ProDOS diskettes, >by using the ProDOS utilities and an Apple with both 3.5 and 5.25" drives, then >the Mac can read them using Apple File Exchange (which comes with the Mac >system software). Of course this is assuming that QuickFile saved the data >in some form that you can import into another DataBase program. > >Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist >Computer Center Colgate University >BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU >APPLELINK U0523 >CompuServe 74010,1353 >Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742 > This would be nice if it worked like you state. However the Apple File Exchange does not come with any ProDos translators, so all you end up with is a ProDos file on the Mac, and as near as I can tell, there are NO programs that will read a ProDos file on a Mac. At Mac Expo I searched for someone that made translators for ProDos to Mac, like the old Passport program. There were a lot of MS-DOS translators, but NONE for ProDos side of the house. Does any know of a solution to this problem? Thanks John Buono ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 13:49:38 EST From: Michael_P._Brown@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Backups of AppleShare? I'm looking for hardware/software that will allow me to backup a 300 Mg AppleShare server. Currently I'm using Network DiskFit 1.5 backing up to several 40 Mg tapes. This is both time consuming and the server must shut down to do it. Ideally I would like to do backups to much larger capacity tapes and be able to do this while the server is running. Does anyone have any experience or products to recommend that would help this situation. Thanks. Michael_P._Brown@um.cc.umich.edu University of Michigan Computing Center ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 23:44:14 EST From: mike@shogun.cc.umich.edu (Michael Nowak) Subject: C source examples of the new preferred AppleTalk interface? I'm trying to experiment with AppleTalk with my shiny new Lightspeed C compiler and I'm having trouble using the new "preferred interface" to AppleTalk listed in Volume V. Specifically, I'm trying to write some code to register an entity on the network, and then look for entities of that type. I can't get it to work - it usually crashes big time with a call to PLookupName(). Does anyone have any source code which might do such a thing that I can use as an example? Or if someone can point me to an ftp server which might have such an example, I'd appreciate that too. I looked at sumex but only found an example using the "alternate" or old interface. If you can send me mail, that'd be great. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Nowak ...mailrus!shogun!mike Workstation Consultant mike@shogun.cc.umich.edu U of M Computing Center User Services Mike_Nowak@um.cc.umich.edu ...working for but in no way representing the University of Michigan... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 9:38:52 EST From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@ardec.arpa> Subject: Default Button Selection & Mac->Overhead Interface Does anyone know of a way to change the default button selections in some of the dialog boxes we see? The one I'm really sick of mousing over to is the, 'Replace Existing "file xyz?"', when I do a 'Save As...'. The default there is NO, and I almost never choose that option. Is that in ROM? In the system? In each application? Once I find it, how do I change it so YES will be the default? As to my last query regarding overhead projector interfaces for the mac, thanks to all who responded, in particular, (because I remembered to save their msgs), Henry Greenside <hsg@cs.duke.edu> Donald J. Gulliksen (IMD) <gulliksen@ARDEC.ARPA> Sandor I. Einstein (AED-EWD) <einstein@ARDEC.ARPA> Major John Buono <buono%asbf-imp.huachuca-emh1.army.mil@HUACHUCA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL> Bob Hale <rhale@ARDEC.ARPA> The overwhelming consensus was: buy the Kodak Datashow. In particular, buy the top of the line model. The cost is not much more, but apparently resolution, and so forth is. Only real drawback, at this time, is a lack of Mac II compatibility. Also, it isn't recommended that these devices be used with older overhead projectors, which use quartz bulbs. The heat they create is a real killer. There are a number of models out now with halogen bulbs. They run much cooler. It appears that the optimal combination (assuming that you can talk your boss into paying for it :-}) would be a Dynamac (or other mac laptop), a Datashow, and a collapsable halogen overhead projector. The whole thing should fit in a large valise. You do need an interface card to your Mac+ or SE. The dealer should be able to install it. tom c Electromagnetic Armament Technology Branch US Army Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000 ARPA: tcora@pica.army.mil UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!tcora ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 15:15:49 EST From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@ardec.arpa> Subject: Default Button Selection & Mac->Overhead Interface Thanks to Ken Sussmann for this quick reply! >Yes you can change the default if it is an alert box. For the >"Replace existing... ? alert, use resedit to open the system >file. Then open ALRT resource -3996. From the ALRT menu that >appears, choose show as text. Check the boxes in front of 2 bold >in all four places (you really only need the first one, but what >the heck). Now close everything and save it. Reboot and your >done. I sure hope you don't have anyone else using the machine or >you may be losing a lot of files. > >What you have done by the above is change the default button from >No. 1 to No. 2. Fancy applications can have up to 4 different >alert results by checking the appropriate boxes (ie don't draw >it, sounds, which button is the default). resedit itself uses >this when you edit templates. If you put in an invalid response, >when you try to close the template, it beeps at you. When you try >to close it again without fixing the problem, it gives you an >alert box with a brief statement of what it doesn't like. > >Good luck, > >Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 10:30:14 PST From: PUGH@nmfecc.arpa Subject: Expo Report Here's a short expo report. Well, for me it's short. First, the show was massively crowded. It was hard to get up to the displays and talk to the vendors. Except for Sunday, that is. Then the hardest place to get to was the Electronic Arts booth. They had turned their large Mitsubishi (which Jerry Rice finally learned to say) monitor onto the game and quite a crowd was gathered. Second, my favorite things were the SE/030 and Virtual, the virtual memory INIT. They go together like spam, bacon, spam & eggs. A 2 Meg SE/030 can run like it has all 8 Meg on board. Killer stuff. Of course rumors place this functionality in the soon to be vaporware "new" system, so maybe these folks will be out of a job soon. Of course, I overheard talk of patents and such. perhaps Apple's lawyers will get something else to argue about. The SE/030 is a Mac IIx in an SE case. Rumors say that it will sell in a 2 Meg Superdrive version without an SCSI port, or a 4 Meg 40MB version (university pricing around $3K). For the punch, this could be a winner. If they are serious about selling top end instead of bottom end like the market went after their last increases then having a reasonable price is essential. The machine has a slot (not nubus) and card manufacturers already have color monitors working externally. Someone really needs to make a color replacement monitor for this puppy. That boy would make a lot of money. How do I go about getting a monitor like this? Can I call Sony? If anyone knows tell me, I am serious about this. Aside from the that, I got to talk to Wesley Crusher, er, I mean Wil Wheaton. He's a Mac owner and he laments the lack of user's groups in LA. Life's tough in Hollywood, kid. He was very nice and I think he loved the attention of people were giving him stuff left and right. He's still a kid though and brought his folks and a friend of his who was a stand-in (you know, one of the people who walks down the corridors). Marina Sirtis (Counselor Troy) wasn't as talkative. She blasted in and out without a pause, signing her autographs in between. Mind you, she looked marvelous, but she didn't seem to want to deal with the show or the people there. Uhuru and Checkov were there one day too, but the crowd was too dangerous to handle. I did play the Star Trek theme real loud a couple of times though. I was pretty obnoxious. I talked with Wil on Sunday when the place was vacant. The netter's dinner was very nice although a bunch of people just showed up on the spur of the moment, so they had to sit at another table, but it worked, so what the hell. The Hunan people burned our faces off quite well and we missed Jeff Shulman, the human gateway, but it was still a smashing sucess. But even better was Jasmine's party at the Gift Center afterwards. Serious fun and a free T shirt to boot. Who can argue? Well, enough for now. Someone else will have other impressions, I'm sure. In particular, I would like to thank all the people who stopped by the booth after reading this drivel. You know who you are, and I already forgot your names, but not your faces, so please write and remind me who you are. Jon N L pugh@nmfecc.arpa M A L National Magnetic Fusion Energy Computer Center F T N Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory E L PO Box 5509 L-561 C Livermore, California 94550 C (415) 423-4239 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 13:41 EST From: DB8Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU Subject: GateKeeper exceptions I remember reading a text file of privileges certain applications needed to function properly under GateKeeper, which seems to cause problems for StuffIt, Font/DA mover and (I remember reading) certain applications from those rule-benders at Microsoft. Could someone post a list of privileges needed by popular applications or a guidelime by which to grant them? Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 11:24:03 est From: Richard G Brewer <tron@wpi.wpi.edu> Subject: II in a Mac In info-mac vol7 number 15, Bruce Halpern writes: >A very serious problem with "II in a Mac" is its inability to reliably >produce open apple-X or closed apple-X commands, where X is some additional >key (such as ? or P or ESC). One is supposed to produce open I'm afraid that I must disagree with this fellow- I did some extensive work with // in a Mac over Christmas break, and had no problems with it (even in appleworks). The trick is remembering that the open and closed apple keys are the same as the joystick buttons on an Apple //. >"II in a Mac" is very slow. It operates at about half the normal speed of a >//e or //c. For anyone who is accoustomed to an accelerated //e or //c, the >speed is a significant factor. It is said by some that it will operate at >normal 1 MHz //e speed in a Mac II. Sure, the software is slow, but I dont think that anyone is kidding themselves into thinking that the performance curve of software interpretation beats an actual 6502 coproccessor. Most people get it so that they can transfer their files from their pre-Mac days onto the Macintosh in a format that the Mac can read, and it is very good at that. Conclusion: II in a Mac runs more than it does not. Most Apple games that come on 3.5" disk work fine (not GS games, though), and I've even done assembly work with it. I am very satafied with it's file transfer capabilities. It may be slow (about 50 - 75% of that of a //e), but it is very accurate, right down to the mini-assembler routines... T R O N ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 10:35 GMT From: Ed de Moel <DEMOEL%HUTRUU51.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Keystrokes and options Hi Folks, I hate to be misunderstood, especially by people who seem to agree with the general drift of what I want to say. My problem is not really with the way Apply implemented their stuff, but with HOW I get to know the nice extra features. The fact that some menus might have just one or two extra check-boxes is just the fine polish that would prove itself worthwile in daily practice. The ongoing discussion has taught us about COMMAND-F and the post-script related things. A few days ago a friend of mine pointed out that when you click OPTION-GOAWAY on a desk-top window, all windows are closed. There are many more of these features. As far as I understood, the MAC user interface is based on the principle that if you want an option, you only need to point to it with the mouse and click. This implies that all options, relevant or not in common denominator practice, MUST be visible on the screen, otherwise you can't point to it. We are now confronted with the situation, and the PostScript thing is just one example, that users KNOW something must be possible, but have NO MEANS OF FINDING OUT HOW they should do it. This is what I call 'not user-friendly'. I agree with Thomas Blake that this principle may invite programmers to create obscure menus and dialogs, but a little 'think before you write' usually prevents such things. I am not critizizing Apple people for the way they supply the system. I just want to make a general remark to anyone who makes software not to hide options. I don't intend to create a lengthy discussion on the subject. I have one request and one promise, however. If you all supply me with lists (yes, Jouni Santara, please do send it) of the key-combinations and option/control + mouseclick features that you know, I will compile them and feed them back to the net. The need is obvious, and someone has to do the job. Greetings for now, Ed de Moel. Physically: Electronically: Hybrid: University of Utrecht BITNET: demoel@hutruu51 Phone: +31 (30) 532239 Princetonplein 5 DIALCOM: 12428:PGA005 PO BOX 80000 3508 TA Utrecht The Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Tuesday, 24 Jan 1989 12:51:51 EST From: m11472@mwvm.mitre.org (Craig M. DeRose) Subject: Needed init to check serial ports. Info-mac, I need a init or startup appl. that checks the serial ports for connections and halts bootup if the ports are connected to a network. Such as AppleTalk or a Modem. And continues to check the ports while notifing the user to pull the connections. If it were smart enough to recognize a laserWriter and accept it but reject any other nodes, that would be even better. Has anyone done this before or is it possible to accomplish? Any help or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, * Craig M. DeRose TeleCo: 703/883-7229 * The MITRE Corporation * 7525 Colshire Drive ARPA: cderose@mwvm@mitre.org * McLean, VA 22102-3481 APPLELINK: N0764 * Mail/Stop Z331 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 10:45:14 PST From: Francois Felix INGRAND <felix@ai.sri.com> Subject: Palatino screeen font problem I have downloaded some Adobe screen fonts from SUMEX and ran in this problem: - I downloaded the fonts - copy all of them in a new font file using font/da mover 3.8 (this is suppose to correct some problems of empty ...) - run font-harmonizer (suitcase) with the merging option ON (but not for the narrowed family) (at this time my system had not font in it) - install the fonts in the "empty-font" system (only the 3 fonts which are in the Mac II roms). in my fonts menu, everything is fine (I only see the family name), except that I have a: BI palatino bo... which should not be here... (this font should be merged in palatino). Any solutions? Moreover, I would like to know if it is possible to add bigger size screen fonts (from Power-Point for example)? The reason why I am asking that is that I read somewhere that before installing these adobe fonts, you have to make sure that your are getting all the Apple fonts out of your system... But it does not say if you can put some back... Thanks in advance, Felix ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 14:28:41 GMT From: lamonts@m5.sdsc.edu (Steve Lamont) Subject: PostAAAAArrgggh! I prostrate myself at your feet, oh Mac Gurus... My humble, most miserable question is this: Why, oh why, is it that even though I can generate PICT files from Cricket Graph which have color embedded in their command streams and import them into whatever application I care to, still showing color on the monitor, I cannot cause my QMS Colorscript 100 printer to excrete the imported images in anything other than monochrome (i.e., black on white), even though any text and/or images I generate from the importing application do, themselves, come out in color. To clarify: I (actually I don't but a lab assistant friend of mine does) generate a graph with Cricket Graph. The file is saved in PICT format; the other option is in Cricket Graph internal format, not importable to anything other than Cricket Graph. I then fire up some application which can ingest PICT files, call it MacFoo. I diddle around in MacFoo, adding text or other embellishments, using color. I then attempt to print to our QMS Colorscript 100 color printer. I get color text and black and white graphs. What am I doing wrong? Is Cricket Graph partially brain damaged? Is MacFoo? Theories, Mr Spock? spl Internet: lamonts@sds.sdsc.edu Bitnet: lamonts@sdsc Disclaimer: You can't get there from here. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jan 89 9:55:36 EST From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@ardec.arpa> Subject: Rebuilding desktop file. A better solution to the huge desktop problem is to use DiskExpress to rebuild the desktop. It will do so without deleting any comments you may have added in 'Get Info' windows. Worth every penny of the $29.95 it cost us. tom c Bill the Cat sez: "Remember. If some weirdo in a blue suit offers you some MS-DOS. JUST SAY NO!" ARPA: tcora@pica.army.mil UUCP:...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!tcora ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 25 Jan 1989 13:14:23 EST From: m20011@mwvm.mitre.org (Anup Patel) Subject: Removable Drives.. I am not sure if this has been discussed before, but are there any removable hard drives available for a Macintosh? I am looking for something equivelant to the PC's removable hard drive (i.e. Passport from Plus development). I am not looking for Bernoulli type media. I am looking for hard drives that can be removed from its casing. I can be reached at: m20011%mwvm.mitre.org@mitre.arpa, or m20011@mwvm.mitre.org. Any help is appreciated. Anup Patel The MITRE Corp. McLean, VA 22102 (703) 883-7002 ------------------------------ Date: Thu 26 Jan 1989 15:44 CDT From: Fred Seaton - WIU 309/298-1681 <MUCM000%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Tek emulators for Mac's Can anyone suggest a good Tek emulator for a Mac? I was hoping Mac Kermit would support this (since MS-KERMIT does), but since it doesn't, I'm forced to look elsewhere. Public domain is preferred, but not required. I've heard that Versaterm Pro is supposed to be a good emulator that even supports Color and also the 132 column mode on the vt100 emulation. However, I'd like to know the name of the company that supports it (and a phone number, if possible), not a distributor. thanks, Fred Seaton Academic Computing Western Illinois University MUCM000@ECNCDC.BITNET ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************