Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (02/09/89)
Info-Mac Digest Wed, 8 Feb 89 Volume 7 : Issue 28
Today's Topics:
Accelerators for Mac II
AppleLink/BITNET gateway
Arrows in Canvas 2
CKMKER.SET inquiry for Mac Kermit
fonts
Info-Mac Digest V7 #26
Info-Mac Digest V7 #27 (2 msgs)
keystrokes and options (as promised)
macWeek figures
my-page-set.hqx
SYSTEM BOMB 42
TOPS 2.1
UUCP, News for the Mac under MacOS
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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 89 13:56:34 CST
From: Paul Fons <FONS@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Accelerators for Mac II
One of our visiting researchers here at the university has a Mac II and
wishes to accelerate his Mac II as much as possible. He is doing numerical
work (solid-state monte carlo Molecular Dynamics -- if you really want
to know). Yes we are already using the Cray-2 here at the university for
the brunt of the research, but his company is willing to spend a large
amount of money (if justifiable) on upgrading the Mac to allow it to do
smaller scale calculations. I was wondering if anyone knew more about
the 88000 motorola cpu board from Tektronics. How fast is it? Is there
a fortran or a C compiler for it? Does it have adequate memory cacheing?
Any other information on accelerators -- DMA boards etc. would be nice to
know about. Thanks for any help.
Paul Fons
University of Illinois
Coordinated Science Lab FONS@UIUCVMD.bitnet
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 10:50 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: AppleLink/BITNET gateway
Someone asked about the gateway between AppleLink and BITNET. Here's how to do
it.
Address your BITNET mail to
XB.DAS@STANFORD.BITNET
in the SUBJECT field put the AppleLink address such as
U0523
If you want a short subject separate it from the applelink address by an
exclamation point "!" such as
U0523!Testing the gateway.
All AppleLink users received several mailings explaining how to send messages
back to a BITNET user, so I won't cover that here.
AppleLink is a relatively expensive system, so most users who have access to
other nets use them. (I check ALink only once a week, whereas I'm always
logged on to my VAX account - while at work.) On the flip side, you can send
messages to people in Apple, people at places like MicroSoft, and dealers and
developers who don't have mainframe network access.
Keep in mind also that BITNET is limited to non-commercial traffic, and
AppleLink is not.
Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist
Computer Center Colgate University
BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
APPLELINK U0523
CompuServe 74010,1353
Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 89 12:16:52 DNT
From: Jakob Nielsen Tech Univ of Denmark <DATJN%NEUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Arrows in Canvas 2
Can anybody tell me whether the arrows in Canvas vers. 2 have improved
compared to vers. 1 ?
I have been especially upset about the ugly arrowheads when used with
heavy linewidths but except from this problem I like Canvas and
might be inclined to upgrade to vers. 2 to make it my primary graphics
program (currently I use about 4-5 different graphics programs, depending
on the figure I want to make).
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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 89 14:56:00 EST
From: DAVID%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: CKMKER.SET inquiry for Mac Kermit
Recently, I downloaded CKMKER SET (from a KERMIT server)
to a MacIntosh II, and used BINHEX4 to
successfully create a file called "Mac Plus Keyboard Map", which appears
to be a document of some kind.
I tried to read the document (using WORD) but failed.
Since I have already created the Settings File appropriate for IBM
CMS/VM work, I thought I could get hints about improving that set of
settings from CKMKER.SET, but to no avail.
Can you help me understand what CKMKER.SET is?
Thanks,
Carl W. David (BITNET->DAVID @ UCONNVM)
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 15:52 CST
From: <HAMMETT@AUDUCVAX>
Subject: fonts
I am looking for either a Russian language font or a font editor. I
tried to use the font editor from the info-mac dir at sumex-aim.stanford.edu.,
but I can't get it to run. I downloaded to our VAX and then to our Mac+(with
hard drive), then un-bin-hexed it. Can anyone suggest what I might be doing
wrong, or where I can get another editor or a Russian font I would greatly
appreciate it, either on the list or to my bitnet address, below.
Thanks,
Richard Hammett
<HAMMETT@DUCVAX>
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 12:32:49 pst
From: amdcad!weitek!dms!petrick@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #26
Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators):
>
> the AppleShare server to manage it's desktop. It is possible to use the
> Desktop Manager on a stand-alone Mac to improve Finder performance in
> managing the desktop file, and to get around the problems the Finder has
> with large desktop files containing many resources. One of the few drawbacks
Can you send me info on how to do this? I've only recently upgraded
to the newer system and didn't get any info on what various new stuff
does.
Thanks,
-- jim
---
-- jim petrick
petrick@dms.UUCP
...ames!amdahl!pyramid!weitek!dms!petrick
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 16:50:52 mst
From: rrw%naucse.UUCP@arizona.edu (Robert Wier)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #27
Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators):
>
> John Sutcliffe asks about OmniPage and TextPert.
>
> We have a full-blown working copy of OmniPage, and a demo of TextPert (we
> have a full version on order). The major difference is that OmniPage can not
> be taught new typestyles, while TexPert can. Additionally, TextPert has just
> announced that their software will recognize *** any *** indo-european
> language. I have also heard of people teaching it Kanji and other languages
> (we are interested in trying to teach it russian).
>
> We run the software on a Mac II with 8 Mb of RAM and a 40 Mb hard disk.
> OmniPage needs at least 4 Mb to run (preferably on a Mac II). TextPert
> will run on any Mac with at least 1 Mb of RAM.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
Bret -
Your note on OmniPage vs TextPert somewhat caught me by suprise.
We have bought an Apple Scanner, and were thinking about buying
a MacII JUST to run Omni-Page. I've seen an Omni-Page demo tape
and they made a big deal out of the auto-font learning feature,
which was promoted as being a desirable feature since you didnt
HAVE to teach it new fonts - it taught itself.
We had also been thinking of running READ-IT (havn't seen a demo
of that yet). I has also heard of TextPert, but also heard that
it was in the range of $2 kilobucks or so, putting it out of our
reach.
I'd be quite interested in any other comments you might care to
pass along.
Many thanks -
-Bob Wier at Flagstaff, Arizona Northern Arizona University
...arizona!naucse!rrw | BITNET: WIER@NAUVAX | *usual disclaimers*
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 16:56:26 mst
From: rrw%naucse.UUCP@arizona.edu (Robert Wier)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #27
Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators):
>
> I am currently evaluating both TextPert and OmniPage with an Apple Scanner. I
> have not had time yet to do a thorough comparison, and when I have I will post
> it to this BBS.
>
> My first impressions are:
>
> Omnipage is good, but not infallible, at recognizing blocks of text as separate
>>From one another. I tested it on a portion of the front page of MacWeek and it
> did very well at isolating text blocks and graphics blocks. It has a
> nice preview mode which allows you to define the area for OCR by dragging
> a selection rectangle around a block of your scanned image.
>
> TextPert is trainable, and I found, initially, that it is very easy to train,
> and it "learns" fast.
>
> I'll be posting a complete comparison as soon as I can get it done (2-3weeks).
>
> Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist
> Computer Center Colgate University
> BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
> APPLELINK U0523
> CompuServe 74010,1353
> Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742
>
Peter - I am QUITE interested in your comparison of Omni-Page
vs TextPert, since our department just bought an Apple Scanner,
and is considering buying another MAC II JUST to run Omni-Page
software. I had heard of TextPert, but have been able to get
no definitive information on it. I have heard that it a)
will run on any Mac with 1meg+ of memory and b) it is priced
in the $2 kilobuck range. Are either of these true (both?).
If TP will run on a regular Mac, is the performance acceptable?
I think I will recommend holding off on any hardware purchases
(and software, for that matter) until things get resolved a bit
better.
again, I'm VERY interested in your comments....
thanks for posting
-Bob Wier at Flagstaff, Arizona Northern Arizona University
...arizona!naucse!rrw | BITNET: WIER@NAUVAX | *usual disclaimers*
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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 89 15:16 GMT
From: Ed de Moel <DEMOEL%HUTRUU51.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: keystrokes and options (as promised)
As I promised, this is the list so far.
I only received the information from other people, so keep
the responsibility for the validity of the information where
it belongs, i.e. not with me...
If anyone finds errors, or has additions, please let me know.
I will gladly modify and update the list.
Ed de Moel.
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/short-cuts-and-options.txt; 24K]
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 10:38 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: macWeek figures
>> From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
>>
>> I'm replying to the recent posting of figures taken from a recent MacWeek
>> article on numbers and percentages of Macs at various institutions.
>>
>> These figures are probably not very reliable at all. Colgate University
>> has no where near 1000 Mac (Oh, I wish, I wish)
>I expect they include all student/staff/faculty purchases, not just "lab"
>machines, and got the numbers from your campus computer store.
If you total up all student/staff/faculty Mac purchases for the past five years
at Colgate, you'd probably get about 150. We have no campus computer store.
We only have 2500 students and 740 faculty/staff.
Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer Specialist
Computer Center Colgate University
BITNET PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
APPLELINK U0523
CompuServe 74010,1353
Phone (315) 824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 21:37 EST
From: <GILBERTD%IUBACS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: my-page-set.hqx
MyPageSetup will make your preferences for "Page Setup" and
the "Print" job dialogs of your printer the default choices:
* Set Imagewriter "Tall Adjusted" so that ImageWriter &
LaserWriter page sizes are similar.
* Set the type of paper you normally stock in your printer.
* For Imagewriters, with the "Paper Size" button, you can
change the page sizes and names of paper choices, print
quality, and page feed method.
* For LaserWriters, you can change cover (user name) page
printing.
Version 1.1 adds the "Print" job dialog, paper size
settings, and help.
Don Gilbert
dogStar Software Bitnet: GilbertD@IUBACS
Internet: GilbertD@Gold.Bacs.Indiana.Edu
[Archived as /info-mac/util/my-page-set-11.hqx; 25K]
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Date: Wed 08 Feb 1989 19:58 CDT
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: SYSTEM BOMB 42
can anyone out there tell me what would cause a SYSTEM ERROR ID=42 upon
shutting down a mac? It doesn't always happen, just sometimes. Oh yeah,
these are Mac +'s running System 5.0....with no control panel files in the
system folder (they are student proofed...)
I tried to look up SYS ERR 42 in IM, but had absolutely no success whatsoever..
Bye for now but not for long
Greeny
BITNET: MISS026@ECNCDC
Internet: MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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Date: Wed 08 Feb 1989 19:56 CDT
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: TOPS 2.1
Has anyone out there gotten the TOPS 2.1 update and been as upset with it as
I have? It installs just fine on MAC +'s, and MAC SE's, but it refused
to do so on a Mac II. So I called the technical support and instead of getting
to talk to a technician -- I HAD TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT FOR ONE TO CALL ME
BACK!!!! What kind of deal was this I asked the operator...Can't I just sit
on hold for a while? I'm only in my office for the next 15 minutes, and
wont be able to make an appt. Of course she said no. And the office that I
was doing these installs for has no idea regarding technical matters. So I
had to call back the next day and make an appointment.
DAY 2:
The technician calls me back and tells me what to do. Since I'm not in front
of the Mac in question (yeah I know it's a mistake...but I couldnt be there)
I *TRUST* the technician when he tells me that it's a bug in the TOPS installer.
And then tells me how to copy the stuff onto the MAC ][. Of course, this
didn't work either. So I'm back to calling the TOPS people again.
DAY 3:
TOPS technician on the line. "Oh yeah, you probably blew away the TOPS
KEY file by accident. So I asked him what to do, and was told to "just copy
it off of the old 2.1 disks". When I asked him why they even included it on
the new update if it was a trouble maker, he had no response. And when I asked
why they just didnt write a script for Apple's installer, instead of writing
their own I still got no response. However, after replacing the new TOPS
KEY file with the old one, everything was hunky dory.
Where is all this leading? Well if you are getting TOPS2.1 update and have a
MAC ][ to update, then DON'T USE THEIR INSTALLER!!!! Simply copy all of the
(or wherever). Then use the FONT/DA mover to open the program called TOPS DA
and use the option-open technicque to extract the TOPS DA from it. Then
replace the TOPS DA that is currently in your system with the one from the file.
Or better yet -- forget TOPS 2.1, and wait for 2.1.1 or whatever, and hope
that they have the bugs fixed...
Bye for now but not for long
Greeny
BITNET: MISS026@ECNCDC
Internet: MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Disclaimer: I'm in college what do I have that you wanna sue me for?
Quote of the day: "Gee, I'm surprised that that bug got past the Q/A
dept. Sorry!" -- Anonymous TOPS technician
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 18:34:20 EST
From: decwrl!decvax!formtek!pen@labrea.stanford.edu (Philip E. Nickerson, Jr.)
Subject: UUCP, News for the Mac under MacOS
I have been searching for a long time for UUCP (UUPC, or whatever)
running under MacOS to send and receive mail as well as news. I'd
like to attach a trailblazer to my SE and let it gather news and mail
as a background process.
Have any of you seen anything which will accomplish these goals for
me?
Please give me a call at (800) FORMTEK or send me mail. Thanx!!
-Phil
Philip E. Nickerson,Jr. |UUCP {pitt,psuvax1}!idis!formtek!pen
(412)937-4900|(800)FORMTEK| decvax!formtek!pen
"Programming is simply |Snail Formative Technologies, Inc., Foster Plaza VII debugging a blank page!" | 661 Andersen Dr., Pittsburgh PA 15220
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