[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V7 #55

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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 21 Mar 89       Volume 7 : Issue  55 

Today's Topics:
                 ?A/UX compatibilty with "Real" UNIX?
                        Aynchronous Sound Code
                         BITNET mail follows
                   HC typing tutor script question
       Reply to Scripting query & a question about SCREENSAVER.
                Rodime Driver Patch from Earle Horton
                              Sit Story

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 10:02 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: ?A/UX compatibilty with "Real" UNIX?

Greetings,

There is some debate here at Colgate on the relative compatiblity of A/UX with
other UNIXes, such as MACH on the NEXT computer.  Not being a UNIX user, I need
your opinions on this to help decide which platform makes a good choice for the
Computer Science Dept's proposed WorkStation lab.  They think they want a
large capacity server/workstation and 5 to 6 smaller capacity client
workstations.  By capacity I mean hard disk.  They are of the opinion that A/UX
is not very compatible with other UNIX implementation, though I'm not sure what
exactly they plan to try to port to their workstation environment.

Any reactions, opinions, or suggestions you might have would be greatly
appreciated.  I'm sure there is interest in this question on the net, so why
not just post your answers to it?

Thanks in advance.

Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 15:34:28 -0800
From: lsr@apple.com
Subject: Aynchronous Sound Code

Enclosed is the source for an MPW Pascal unit that shows how to play
anychronous sounds with the Sound Manager.  I have tried this unit only on
System 6.0.2; supposdly there are bugs in earlier versions of the Sound
Manager.  This unit also doesn't check for the existence of the Sound
Manager, I assume that you do this at a higher level.

I used this in a simple MacApp program that will open any file and allow you
to play any snd resource in the file ansynchronously.  (I started this with
the idea of allowing copy & paste, but haven't gotten that far yet.  If
there is interest, I can post that program.)

 Larry Rosenstein,  Object Specialist
 Apple Computer, Inc.  20525 Mariani Ave, MS 46-B  Cupertino, CA 95014
    AppleLink:Rosenstein1    domain:lsr@Apple.COM
UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!lsr

[Archived as /info-mac/source/pascal-asynchronous-sound.txt; 6K]

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Date: 20 Mar 89   11:17 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: BITNET mail follows

HERE IS AN INTERNAL DOC I WROTE IN PART DEPENDENT ON WHAT I LEARNED FROM
OTHER NETTERS--THANKS TO ALL!

LONG--3 PAGES SINGLE-SPACED!



========================================================================

       Notes on Macintosh-to-ADI Connection for Dial-Out Communications


    Although the Mac II which we borrowed from Apple, during testing in the
    IR&D Lab, proved to work well with Mac240 through the IBX telephone
    system's ADI to our VAX 750 and other dial-out connections, we have
    been unable to make our new Mac IIx or Mac II's perform similarly.
    With the help of Jolynda Bowers and our Apple reps, I believe we have
    the "problem" isolated.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/mac-to-adi-connection.txt; 6K]

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 22:48 GMT
From: <LAUBISCH%COLOLASP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HC typing tutor script question

I am trying to create a spell-checker for a typing tutorial stack.
The user enters text into field ("text"), which they copy from
an example field ("example"). When they are finished typing, they
can click on an Errors button, to display the number of errors.
The problem with my script is: if the user leaves out a word, or
adds one (like "t he" instead of "the"), it throws off the rest
of the calculation.

Does anyone have a solution to this?

 on mouseUp
  repeat with i=1 to number of words in field "text"
    put word i of field "text" into it
    if word i of field "example" does not equal it then
      select word i of field "text"   --Highlights the error
      wait for 2 seconds
      select empty             --Unhighlights it.
      add 1 to field "errors"  --Adds to error display field.
    end if
  end repeat
end mouseUp

Lynn Laubisch           SPAN            zodiac::laubisch
LASP, Campus box 392    INTERNET        laubisch%zodiac@vaxf.colorado.edu
University of Colorado  BITNET          laubish@cololasp
Boulder CO 80309        phone           (303)492-8162

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 89 16:18 CST
From: "Kevin W. Mullet, UNT Academic Computing Services" <KEV@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>
Subject: Reply to Scripting query & a question about SCREENSAVER.

Hi!

I recently this message to InfoMac:

>Subj:	I need a scripting language
>[...]
>I need to find a program that will allow me to shell out of
>HyperCard and run controlled scripts of actions in PageMaker,
>occasionally polling the user and performing logical constructs
>based on user replies and (if possible) the contents of the
>screen.
>[...]
>Has anyone ever seen, heard, or used such a thing?

Thanks to the following people for their replies:

Rich Akerboom                  Dartmouth Univ.
Jakob Nielsen            Tech Univ. of Denmark
Joe McMahon                               NASA


Here's a what they said.  I've got a follow up question after all
this:
	=============================
>"check  out Tempo II from Affinity Microsystems (boulder
>co, i think).  available from MacConnection for $85 or
>so.  as far as i know, the most powerful macro system
>for mac.  check with them first to see if it will do
>what you need, though.  and when using it, try to avoid
>scripting mouse clicks, especially double clicks.  what
>i mean is use menus and controls (buttons, scroll bars,
>etc) but avoid things like selecting a document to open
>by clicking on it since it may move. [...]"
	=============================
>"[...] the program ScreenRecorder from Farallon is
>claimed to be able to do what you want. I don't have any
>personal experience with the program, but I have been
>very satisfied with MacRecorder (sound digitizer) from
>the same company.  ScreenRecorder 'lets you record any
>Macintosh screen session - then you can replay it
>instantly or later, on your Mac or anyone else's. 
>...	ScreenRecorder includes an XFCN for Apple's
>HyperCard software that lets you replay from within
>HyperCard' (quoting Farallon's ad)"
	=============================
>Check out Tempo II or QuickKeys. These both allow you
>to play macro games such as you  desire; I think Tempo
>II is a bit more sophisticated, but QuicKeys is easier
>to use. 
	=============================
        =============================
        =============================

What I'd like to know now is what experiences anyone has had with
Farallon's Screen Recorder.  Can it do branching based on items not
in the clipboard, such as onethefly variables, etc...?  Basically,
I'd like quick notes from people summing up their opinion of the
product, what they use it for and what the think the two or three
top PROs and CONs are.

Please reply to me, and I'll sum up all replies to the net.

Thanks,


Kevin Mullet
University of North Texas Academic Computing Services
Microcomputer Support

BITNET:                KEV@UNTVAX
INTERNET:              KEV@VAXA.ACS.UNT.EDU
THENET:	               NTVAXA::KEV
Staticnet:             (817) 565-2316

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 18:03:53 PST
From: trewitt@miasma.stanford.edu
Subject: Rodime Driver Patch from Earle Horton

This might be useful for the archives, if you have this driver also.

------- Forwarded Message

>From: earleh@northstar.dartmouth.edu (Earle Horton)
Organization: Project NORTHSTAR, Dartmouth College
Date: 20 Mar 89 19:00:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Incredibly cheap hard disks.

[This describes a patch to the Rodime Driver Utility to allow it to work
with non-Rodime disks.]

In article <280@nessus.UUCP> pst@nessus.UUCP (Paul Traina) writes:
>From article <1420@ccnysci.UUCP>, by alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen):
>< According to an article in misc.forsale, Newbury Data is getting out of the
>< USE drive market. They're dumping their products at fantastic prices. For
>< example, 19ms 380MB SCSI drive for $1395.
>< 
>< The question is, can these be used with A/UX? Has anyone done it? (How about
>< with the regular Mac OS?)
>
>I've just purchased one-- I'll be writing a MacOS driver with support for
>the new partition map (if necessary),  and depending upon the generic
>SCSI driver built into A/UX to deal with it when in A/UX mode.

     If you LIKE writing MacOS drivers, just hit 'n' now.


     Get the "Rodime Driver Utility," version 2.03.  It's on sumex,
and also rascal, I think.  It's a formatter, driver installer,
partitioner, and so forth for Rodime disks.  It was distributed to
these archives by Rodime for the benefit of Rodime owners.  If you
don't think it's "nice" to use it for non-Rodime disks, hit 'n' now.


     Boot with MacsBug installed, and the new disk connected.  Start
up the Rodime program.  Escape to MacsBug.  (I use 6.0, earlier
versions may use different register names, etc.)  Commands entered to
the debugger start with '>' and comments start with ';'.

> GT SCANSCSI
; Choose from the SCSI menu, "Scan SCSI bus."
; Debugger breaks at SCANSCSI
> MR
; You should now be at UPDATESC+000C
> SM A5-10F0+n 1
; Wherein 'n' is the SCSI address of the new disk, an integer from 0
; to 6.  Substitute "ra5" for "a5" with older MacsBug.
> G
; The driver utility program now converses with your disk.  During
; this time, it may or may not emit error messages, which it shows using
; a modal dialog box.  I got "An error has occurred in InquiryDisk Media
; Verification. Code = 4."  I chose to ignore it.  I wasn't, however, working
; with a Newbury hard disk, but rather with an Apple disk, for reasons which
; I will reveal later.
;
; If there are not very many error messages, attempt to format and partition
; the disk using the Rodime Driver Utility.
;

     The Rodime driver seems to know how to set up A/UX partitions.
More exciting to me is that the driver can handle multiple "Apple_HFS"
partitions at once.  I have an Apple HD SC 80, which is a very nice
disk, except that there is no way, using Apple software, to set up
multiple MacOS-mountable partitions on it.  The Rodime software gave
me three independent MacOS partitions (could get more) which makes it
somewhat easier to deal with a disk this size, with the kind of stuff
I have on it.  The driver mounts all three as separate disks, which
the Finder thinks are mounted on "Rodime SCSI Device."

     Performance seems the same as with the Apple HD SC Setup driver,
which I had been using for lack of anything more interesting.  The
Rodime program does allow you to specify interleave and other
interesting hardware-type junk, as well as allowing more interesting
partitioning schemes.

Disclaimer: Be reasonable, folks.  This procedure is for some poor
graduate student (like myself) who somehow gets a SCSI disk which
doesn't come with software that does what [s]he wants.  Use it on your
disk, on your Mac, and you will probably like the results.  Install it
on 20 of them at your employer's place of business, and the fecal
matter will sooner or later hit the air circulation device.

Earle Horton

------- End of Forwarded Message

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 16:07:14 CST
From: brianc@saintjoe.edu (Brian Capouch)
Subject: Sit Story

	I have been on a long, arduous journey attempting to access
the archives at White Sands Missle Base in New Mexico.  I know that
you folks don't maintain that archive, but hope that perhaps my plight
will be something that you've encountered before, and that you might
be able to point me towards a solution.

	We have no trouble accessing the info-mac archives whatsoever.
The "product mix" we're using is as follows: 

	1. We begin an "ftp" session and connect to the server
	   using our Sun 3/150.

	2. We download your .hqx files in ASCII mode; the WSMB files, 
	   which are predominantly .sit files, we do in tenex mode. 

	3. The trip to the Macs from our 
Suns is done over our Ethernet, using the Mac/IP product which we obtained
	   from Stanford.  

Somehow, the .sit files from the WSMR server are not recognized as sit files
by the Unstuffer.  We have tried to transfer them from the Suns to the Macs
using each of the three possible modes built into Mac/IP (binary, MacBinary, 
and ASCII).  Nothing seems to matter; the files are un-unstuffable, and 
as it turns out we aren't therefore able to download software from that 
server.  

	The people at WSMR suggested we contact Stanford, as they suspect
the Mac/IP product is doing something unsavory in the transfer from our 
Suns, since (according to them) the "tenex" mode is the proper ftp mode
for transferring these files.  

	Any help you could give us would be greatly appreciated.  

Brian Capouch
St. Joseph's College
brianc@saintjoe.edu

[No idea. Anyone else know? -Bill]

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